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I think on the issue of abortion we're just going to have to agree to disagree, because I don't think a twelve week old foetus is a baby, I really don't think it's any more than a bunch of cells with potential, but potential is not the same as fact or accomplishment. and I think abortion is the right of any woman. I'm interested in whether or not you are actually for making it illegal as you have to know that this wouldn't stop people from getting the termination, rather just cause an influx of backyard type abortions, which would obviously not be anywhere near as safe for the mother and desperate people will got to desperate measures.
I'm interested to understand how you think that freedom of religon exists under a government that acts with a bias, When the Muslim brotherhood get elected on the other side of the world (and they will be elected) the one thing you can say for them is that they will be honest about their bias for islam. Religon has caused more wars than anything else as it has often served as a justification. Maybe irrelevent but maybe also evidence that religion and politics don't, or shouldn't, mix. Freedom of religon should mean more than the right to practice a relgion of your choice, it should mean an equality regardless of the religon you choose to practice. If the governing body which represents all of these people has a clear collective preference this can't possibly exist, in fact I would go further and say it even starts to promote racism. Why is religion even necessary in Western politics, why is it relevant regardless of the percentage of population identifying as a particular one? It leads to the question of whether bible studies or the equivalent should be taught in government funded school? Of course it shouldn't because it would alienate the students of other faiths. The situation with the govenment is exactly the same just on a larger scaleI don't mean to offend anyone, a lot of what I say should be taken with a grain of salt... that said for most of you I'm a stranger on a computer on the other side of the world, don't give me that sort of power!0 -
We are all just a bunch of cells with potential.your_move_now wrote:I think on the issue of abortion we're just going to have to agree to disagree, because I don't think a twelve week old foetus is a baby, I really don't think it's any more than a bunch of cells with potential, but potential is not the same as fact or accomplishment. and I think abortion is the right of any woman. I'm interested in whether or not you are actually for making it illegal as you have to know that this wouldn't stop people from getting the termination, rather just cause an influx of backyard type abortions, which would obviously not be anywhere near as safe for the mother and desperate people will got to desperate measures.
I'm interested to understand how you think that freedom of religon exists under a government that acts with a bias, When the Muslim brotherhood get elected on the other side of the world (and they will be elected) the one thing you can say for them is that they will be honest about their bias for islam. Religon has caused more wars than anything else as it has often served as a justification. Maybe irrelevent but maybe also evidence that religion and politics don't, or shouldn't, mix. Freedom of religon should mean more than the right to practice a relgion of your choice, it should mean an equality regardless of the religon you choose to practice. If the governing body which represents all of these people has a clear collective preference this can't possibly exist, in fact I would go further and say it even starts to promote racism. Why is religion even necessary in Western politics, why is it relevant regardless of the percentage of population identifying as a particular one? It leads to the question of whether bible studies or the equivalent should be taught in government funded school? Of course it shouldn't because it would alienate the students of other faiths. The situation with the govenment is exactly the same just on a larger scale
I personally can’t imagine that someone would be so desperate to rid themselves of a pregnancy that they would get a “backyard” type of abortion. I think the risks of the “backyard” type of abortion will deter most people from trying it. People will always go out of there way to get around the law. I just think it’s sad our society got to a point where it’s even an option as “do over” for a bad decision. I definitely wouldn’t put it in the class of “rights”, such a freedom of speech. I think we will just have to agree to disagree about abortion.
We’ve always had a biased Christian government, and we’ve also always had freedom of religion. I’d like to know how you think that we can’t have both when we’ve always had both. There are plenty of non-Christians in America that practice freely, and in fact are more protected than Christians because of their minority status. I wish there was equality regardless of religion practiced, but Christians seem to be less equal anymore.
The US has never gone to war over religion. This country was founded as a Christian nation, and that shouldn’t change because a few people don’t like it. There are other places for people to go in this world that will suit them better. It’s like moving to Iran and wondering why they have to be a Muslim country, and trying to get it changed. Of course the difference being that they don’t have the freedom of religion we have, and you would probably be executed. Both parties have plenty of faults. But it’s the democrats that seem to want to “fundamentally transform” what America is, because doing so gets them elected. But it also destroys what made the US the best country in the world. I don’t see what is wrong with a court house of a predominantly Christian nation have the 10 commandments out front. Even if you are not a Christian, the 10 commandments are still good rules to live by. And even if you don’t choose to live by them, I bet you would prefer that everyone else does!
I’m not for Christian studies to be taught to all in public school, although I think there are plenty of various subjects taught that alienate other students. I do think that Christians should have the same rights in public school to practice that minority religions have. I don’t have a problem with elective classes that Christian students can elect to take. I don’t have a problem with things like the pledge to allegiance, which mentions god, or prayer in school. As long as students not in the majority can opt out and practice their own beliefs freely. There will always be exceptions to every rule, and I don’t think that the majority should bend to a small minority so as to not offend them. Needs of the many should outweigh the needs of the few. But as we know, all Christian activities get banned, yet the minority religions can generally practice freely.0 -
Anything is possible. One needs only to look at the 20+ years of marriage between Mary Matalin and James Carville. Those two couldn't be on any more opposite ends of the spectrum and they make it work just fine.Camden 8/28/1998; Jones Beach 8/24/2000; Camden 9/1/2000; Camden 9/2/2000; Albany 4/29/2003; New York 7/8/2003; Vancouver 9/2/2005; Atlantic City 10/1/2005; Albany 5/12/2006; E. Rutherford 6/1/2006; E. Rutherford 6/3/2006; New York 6/24/2008; New York 6/25/2008; New York 5/20/20100
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88keys wrote:Anything is possible. One needs only to look at the 20+ years of marriage between Mary Matalin and James Carville. Those two couldn't be on any more opposite ends of the spectrum and they make it work just fine.
Correction: they've only been married for 18 years... but you get the point.Camden 8/28/1998; Jones Beach 8/24/2000; Camden 9/1/2000; Camden 9/2/2000; Albany 4/29/2003; New York 7/8/2003; Vancouver 9/2/2005; Atlantic City 10/1/2005; Albany 5/12/2006; E. Rutherford 6/1/2006; E. Rutherford 6/3/2006; New York 6/24/2008; New York 6/25/2008; New York 5/20/20100
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