Amanda Knox freed

yep.

don't know if she is guilty or not but that girl has got them 'crazy eyes'

musicismylife78 wrote:

certainly if she is innocent its great she's free. that said, i see no correlation between this case and the wm3, or mumia or peltier or any other such case. knox lived at the flat with her roommate, its plausible she was there, she suggested another man committed the crime which turned out to be a lie on her part, and she supposedly was doing cartwheels at the police station hours after seeing her friends dead body. indeed from what i can gleen, no dna of hers was found at the scene, but certainly, the wm3, mumia and peltier, never had or acted the way she did. Can you imagine damien doing cartwheels or peltier suggesting another person killed the 2 fbi guys and it was found out he lied? none of them would have the support they have now, period.

i find her behavior bizaare and strange. was the dna at the scene hers? was her boyfriends dna at the scene? the ivory coast resident lying when he said he saw the boyfriend and knox at the scene? did he commit it alone? is he guilty?

again, i applaud and beg for the release of all innocent people from prison, however to equate this with the wm3, mumia or peltier is egregious and frankly ludicrous.

with all due respect Mumia is guilty as sin and even reportedly confessed/bragged about killing Officer Daniel Faulkner in the hospital.

dont know if you were kidding around but certainly one cant tell the innocence or guilt of someone based on their eyes or their look or something like that. thats silly. its certainly what put the wm3 in prison. unless you are george carlin and can tell the guilt of someone just by looking at them, i'd keep that to yourself.

pjhawks wrote:

don't know if she is guilty or not but that girl has got them 'crazy eyes'

That is a ridiculous comment, you have to admit.

musicismylife78 wrote:

pjhawks wrote:

musicismylife78 wrote:

certainly if she is innocent its great she's free. that said, i see no correlation between this case and the wm3, or mumia or peltier or any other such case. knox lived at the flat with her roommate, its plausible she was there, she suggested another man committed the crime which turned out to be a lie on her part, and she supposedly was doing cartwheels at the police station hours after seeing her friends dead body. indeed from what i can gleen, no dna of hers was found at the scene, but certainly, the wm3, mumia and peltier, never had or acted the way she did. Can you imagine damien doing cartwheels or peltier suggesting another person killed the 2 fbi guys and it was found out he lied? none of them would have the support they have now, period.

i find her behavior bizaare and strange. was the dna at the scene hers? was her boyfriends dna at the scene? the ivory coast resident lying when he said he saw the boyfriend and knox at the scene? did he commit it alone? is he guilty?

again, i applaud and beg for the release of all innocent people from prison, however to equate this with the wm3, mumia or peltier is egregious and frankly ludicrous.

with all due respect Mumia is guilty as sin and even reportedly confessed in the hospital.

gotta disagree. had mumia not been a radical black panther he wouldnt be in prison. i dont think thats some coincidence. it never is. the philly pd is notoriously racist trash. he had fbi files dating back to the 70's, to suggest he was a target and a marked man isnt conspiracy, its plain hard truth.

One has to wonder why exactly the Philly PD and the prosecuters viewed Mumia with such hatred, even before the trial and the killing of Faulkner. Extending that further, he continues to be a major issue. we wouldnt be talkign about him if it was otherwise. the courts have to know this is a major issue. The coalition and support for Mumia extends beyond the typical hippie activist base and includes a host of people from the Dalai Lama to the late John Paul III, to Tutu, to even Colin Firth.

i've read the trial transcripts, i've read books on the subject. regardless of whether Mumia was previously being targeted or watched by the FBI is irrelevant. all the evidence points to him. even his brother who was a witness has never publicly come forward to support his innocence.

http://www.danielfaulkner.com/

http://www.danielfaulkner.com/docs/Summ ... eFacts.pdf

as for my 'crazy eyes' comment regarding amanda knox yes i was joking and not putting any credence into her guilt or innocence because of how i perceive her looks.

RKCNDY wrote:

I watched a news story on the case, they said that when Amanda came home one morning, she noticed that the door was ajar and things didn't 'look right' so she goes and takes a shower..THEN calls the police to investigate.

who DOES that?

exactly. exactly what i was suggesting. if she's innocent, by all means, this is a great day. however, the main point of introducing wm3 and mumia and peltier into the argument, was to suggest none of them conducted themselves in the manner that knox did. again, can you imagine, the 3 boys were just killed, miskelly "confesses" and they round damien and jason up and damien is doing cartwheels around the police station? can you imagine how that would have looked and been perceived. its just not something people do. the fact no one in the wm3 case did that is not a coincidence. or as i said, imagine had jason come out and said, that his dad had committed the crime or something, wildly outrageous and stupid, and his dad had been jailed and arrested and all that stuff, all the while jason knowing he was lying and that his dad was innocent.

knox's behavior is flat out odd. seeing something tragic like the dead body of a friend would cause anyone to flip out. however i would wager, you lined up 100 people and put them in knox's shoes, not one of them would have taken a shower nor been cartwheeling around the police station hours after a friends brutal murder

i also think the dna is a problem. each side seems to deny and cancel out the meaning of it. one side said its the boyfriend and knox's dna at the scene, while the defence said it was rye bread remnants. the prosecuters say dna was all over the room, the defence said it was all over the room because the scene was contaminated by police. that one photo of handling evidence with a dirty glove, could be just that, contamination, or it could also be the remnants of the evidence the officer is holding, formed that second.

what about that guede guy? was he lying? he was placed at the scene, and said the boyfriend and knox were there, then denied it. then said he saw someone who could be the boyfriend and knox's silloutte outside.

was it a break in? if it was how did they get in? the police suggested the bedroom window was staged, as the room was a mess, yet glass shards lay on a pile of clothes, suggesting it was a coverup attempt by the killer.

pjhawks wrote:

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

This case and WM3 have nothing to do with Mumia. There was ample evidence for the conviction in the Mumia case. People really need to stop making that guy their "symbol of freedom" or whatever.

Johnny you and i agree on this one. i think it's really only people outside of the philly area who truly have any thoughts that Mumia is not guilty. all the evidence points to the guy and no one else. sad that people ignore the evidence and use him as an example. it's really an insult to those who are wrongly convicted that this guy is lumped in with them.

again, two things. the racist history of brutality and murder on the part of the philly pd, ie, MOVE.

and two, why exactly was mumia being monitored even as a teen? its long been known the fear of the Panthers running up on white folks and murdering them was a false image, and was not reality. yes they preached militancy, but the idea that they were out there murdering pigs and all white people they could find is inaccurate. Why exactly would the FBI be monitoring a teenage Mumia? And historically, what was the stated desire and MO of the FBI and the CIA during the 1960's and 1970's, reguarding black militant groups and even nonviolent folks like MLK? A group of thugs that would slander and harass MLK to the extent they did (expose affairs, suggest their goal was to "neutralize the threat", and to try and get MLK to commit suicide) is certainly not a group i'd support or stick up for.

you folks in philly, why not talk about what your racist pigs did to the MOVE organization, to women and children? to a pregnant woman for godssake? How in philly a bomb was actually dropped on a house full of women and children? how about your mayors comments about blacks? Rizzo? How about Rendell?

i'd be wary of alligning myself with racist people like rendell, rizzo, and the entire philly pd.

what threat could a 13 year old mumia pose? and to what extent did they view him as an enemy of the state?

musicismylife78 wrote:

pjhawks wrote:

musicismylife78 wrote:

certainly if she is innocent its great she's free. that said, i see no correlation between this case and the wm3, or mumia or peltier or any other such case. knox lived at the flat with her roommate, its plausible she was there, she suggested another man committed the crime which turned out to be a lie on her part, and she supposedly was doing cartwheels at the police station hours after seeing her friends dead body. indeed from what i can gleen, no dna of hers was found at the scene, but certainly, the wm3, mumia and peltier, never had or acted the way she did. Can you imagine damien doing cartwheels or peltier suggesting another person killed the 2 fbi guys and it was found out he lied? none of them would have the support they have now, period.

i find her behavior bizaare and strange. was the dna at the scene hers? was her boyfriends dna at the scene? the ivory coast resident lying when he said he saw the boyfriend and knox at the scene? did he commit it alone? is he guilty?

again, i applaud and beg for the release of all innocent people from prison, however to equate this with the wm3, mumia or peltier is egregious and frankly ludicrous.

with all due respect Mumia is guilty as sin and even reportedly confessed in the hospital.

gotta disagree. had mumia not been a radical black panther he wouldnt be in prison. i dont think thats some coincidence. it never is. the philly pd is notoriously racist trash. he had fbi files dating back to the 70's, to suggest he was a target and a marked man isnt conspiracy, its plain hard truth.

One has to wonder why exactly the Philly PD and the prosecuters viewed Mumia with such hatred, even before the trial and the killing of Faulkner. Extending that further, he continues to be a major issue. we wouldnt be talkign about him if it was otherwise. the courts have to know this is a major issue. The coalition and support for Mumia extends beyond the typical hippie activist base and includes a host of people from the Dalai Lama to the late John Paul III, to Tutu, to even Colin Firth.

this guy...clearly has no clue what he's talking about.