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  • he still stands
    he still stands Posts: 2,835
    ah jeezus.... who cares about Prince's cunty sister. Let it go. I'm sure some people call me a dick. I'm sure my brother has at some point. I don't get my manties in a bunch about it and if I was a woman I wouldn't get all pretentious feminazi on everyone, either.
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    he still stands wrote:
    ah jeezus.... who cares about Prince's cunty sister. Let it go. I'm sure some people call me a dick. I'm sure my brother has at some point. I don't get my manties in a bunch about it and if I was a woman I wouldn't get all pretentious feminazi on everyone, either.
    His behavior and your behavior is the exact same behavior you are disgusted by ... intolerance
    for another human being

    but how can you then expect more from others?


    I have a feeling you don't want to see my point just minimize it ...
  • he still stands
    he still stands Posts: 2,835
    pandora wrote:
    he still stands wrote:
    ah jeezus.... who cares about Prince's cunty sister. Let it go. I'm sure some people call me a dick. I'm sure my brother has at some point. I don't get my manties in a bunch about it and if I was a woman I wouldn't get all pretentious feminazi on everyone, either.
    His behavior and your behavior is the exact same behavior you are disgusted by ... intolerance
    for another human being

    but how can you then expect more from others?


    I have a feeling you don't want to see my point just minimize it ...

    I have no idea what you're talking about. We aren't being "intolerant" of you... we both just agree that your opinion is abhorrent. Disagreeing with someone on a message board isn't the same as discriminating against them for some arbitrary reason in real life.
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    he still stands wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    he still stands wrote:
    ah jeezus.... who cares about Prince's cunty sister. Let it go. I'm sure some people call me a dick. I'm sure my brother has at some point. I don't get my manties in a bunch about it and if I was a woman I wouldn't get all pretentious feminazi on everyone, either.
    His behavior and your behavior is the exact same behavior you are disgusted by ... intolerance
    for another human being

    but how can you then expect more from others?


    I have a feeling you don't want to see my point just minimize it ...

    I have no idea what you're talking about. We aren't being "intolerant" of you... we both just agree that your opinion is abhorrent. Disagreeing with someone on a message board isn't the same as discriminating against them for some arbitrary reason in real life.
    It is not me I am speaking of... the intolerance :? yes I can see you have no idea...

    what is my opinion again I think you should start there cause I believe my opinion on this topic is the same as yours
  • he still stands
    he still stands Posts: 2,835
    pandora wrote:
    It is not me I am speaking of... the intolerance :? yes I can see you have no idea...

    what is my opinion again I think you should start there cause I believe my opinion on this topic is the same as yours

    you've inherently adopted Godfather's bigoted position by supporting him on this topic.

    If that's not your opinion... fine... why are we here again? To talk about Prince's use of the word "cunt?" No thanks. I'm pretty established in my "zero censorship" point of view.
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    he still stands wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    It is not me I am speaking of... the intolerance :? yes I can see you have no idea...

    what is my opinion again I think you should start there cause I believe my opinion on this topic is the same as yours

    you've inherently adopted Godfather's bigoted position by supporting him on this topic.

    If that's not your opinion... fine... why are we here again? To talk about Prince's use of the word "cunt?" No thanks. I'm pretty established in my "zero censorship" point of view.
    I can support a friend and not agree with him... that is the wonderful thing

    it is not censorship, I too agree with freedom of speech although personally for me
    not in being disrespectful

    and you will not see the connection to intolerance in his behavior

    or your own!
  • he still stands
    he still stands Posts: 2,835
    pandora wrote:
    I can support a friend and not agree with him... that is the wonderful thing

    it is not censorship, I too agree with freedom of speech although personally for me
    not in being disrespectful

    and you will not see the connection to intolerance in his behavior

    or your own!

    no, I don't see where I've been intolerant... except for the posts that were homophobic and my response to those. I don't have tolerance for ignorance.
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    he still stands wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    I can support a friend and not agree with him... that is the wonderful thing

    it is not censorship, I too agree with freedom of speech although personally for me
    not in being disrespectful

    and you will not see the connection to intolerance in his behavior

    or your own!

    no, I don't see where I've been intolerant... except for the posts that were homophobic and my response to those. I don't have tolerance for ignorance.
    No it seems you have no tolerance for those who do not agree with you,
    even for me when you thought I sided with another poster
    and icing is ....I agree with you on this topic!

    I am able to be friends with someone I do not always agree with because I understand,
    things are not so black and white. I can admire a person for all our differences,
    and try to see a person for their heart.

    Try a little understanding.... it is just exactly what you are demanding of others,
    otherwise you perpetuate the intolerance and hate.

    If you don't like it don't do it yourself.
  • he still stands
    he still stands Posts: 2,835
    it's simple. Let me explain it for you simply;

    Godfather took an incredibly ignorant, hateful, bigoted and archaic position on homosexuality and even went so low as "name calling" to myself (I'm straight, but that isn't of any relevance) and Prince, who is gay.

    You derailed the thread and us (Prince and I) calling out Godfather by trying to shift the focus to Prince's comments about his sister. You've explicity done this because Godfather is your friend here.

    So, I'm not being "intolerant", I'm simply calling you out for a) not staying on point b) derailing a thread c) having an illogical opinion about the word "cunt" and d) implicity supporting Godfather's bigoted opinion.

    That's all. There's nothing "intolerant" about it.
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    he still stands wrote:
    it's simple. Let me explain it for you simply;

    Godfather took an incredibly ignorant, hateful, bigoted and archaic position on homosexuality and even went so low as "name calling" to myself (I'm straight, but that isn't of any relevance) and Prince, who is gay.

    You derailed the thread and us (Prince and I) calling out Godfather by trying to shift the focus to Prince's comments about his sister. You've explicity done this because Godfather is your friend here.

    So, I'm not being "intolerant", I'm simply calling you out for a) not staying on point b) derailing a thread c) having an illogical opinion about the word "cunt" and d) implicity supporting Godfather's bigoted opinion.

    That's all. There's nothing "intolerant" about it.
    INCORRECT!

    if another poster was in this thread I would have pointed out the same
    had nothing to do with who was in the thread

    it is relevant to the discussion in that...

    my point towards this discussion

    do not be intolerant of others...
    don't expect something from them that you yourself do not do in your personal life
    or here on the board. That is hypocritical.


    The op did not just use a word he was intolerant of his sisters behavior which is exactly what
    he and you are opposed to. Name calling at its worse and towards a family member.

    This why I spoke out. Nothing to do with another poster.

    I was incredibly shocked by the post
    that screamed hate and intolerance towards a family member.
    This when tolerance for others is the issue. Is this an oxymoron

    Your words and opinions are extremely intolerant of others. Take notice.
    You do the same or worse towards another but say you are tolerant :?

    this also my point... hate makes more hate... intolerance multiplies by two
    then four then...


    and who is ignorant? maybe everyone can try understanding each other instead of name calling
    this is what will bring positive change
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,605
    Whats to be celebrated here is the FACT that those willing to protect and defend the constitution of the united states can fully be themselves while the serve this country. End of story. There will be som etransition to be sure but nothing like the big blowup the some of the brass tried to say would happen. I think in the end the question "do you still have my back?" was answered with a resounding yes. For the most part thats all a grunt cares about.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    he still stands wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    I can support a friend and not agree with him... that is the wonderful thing

    it is not censorship, I too agree with freedom of speech although personally for me
    not in being disrespectful

    and you will not see the connection to intolerance in his behavior

    or your own!

    no, I don't see where I've been intolerant... except for the posts that were homophobic and my response to those. I don't have tolerance for ignorance.

    it must be hard to live with your self.... btw do you and your friends still play dress up ? lately you've sounded kinda girly girlish......not that there's anything with that..it's just that I think we might see your true colors coming... out ;)

    Godfather.
  • Prince Of Dorkness
    Prince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    pandora wrote:
    His behavior and your behavior is the exact same behavior you are disgusted by ... intolerance
    for another human being

    but how can you then expect more from others?

    So... I have to "tollerate" and support and accept the obnoxious and rude and vile and just plain vindictively mean behavior of my sister if I expect others to allow me some equality?

    Well... following that logic, you have zero right to get on my dress about using the word "cunt," then. Because you don't tolerate my choice of words and you don't accept my use of them.

    So... try listening to yourself for a bit. Thanks.
    I can't drive without Pearl Jam
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    His behavior and your behavior is the exact same behavior you are disgusted by ... intolerance
    for another human being

    but how can you then expect more from others?

    So... I have to "tollerate" and support and accept the obnoxious and rude and vile and just plain vindictively mean behavior of my sister if I expect others to allow me some equality?

    Well... following that logic, you have zero right to get on my dress about using the word "cunt," then. Because you don't tolerate my choice of words and you don't accept my use of them.

    So... try listening to yourself for a bit. Thanks.
    yes you do need to try to tolerate as others try to do ... it is what you are expecting others to do for you when they do not agree with you. Try a little understanding if you expect the same

    Actually I must tolerate the choice of language doesn't mean I have to agree with it
    or use it myself. Name calling is not my style. But I accept your right to do it, of course.
    And others to do it to you... however wrong I think that is. Hate making more hate.

    But you as everyone will get what you/they dish in life.
    What goes around comes around and don't do what you don't like others doing.
    When you give love and understanding you are more likely to receive it.
  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    His behavior and your behavior is the exact same behavior you are disgusted by ... intolerance
    for another human being

    but how can you then expect more from others?

    So... I have to "tollerate" and support and accept the obnoxious and rude and vile and just plain vindictively mean behavior of my sister if I expect others to allow me some equality?

    Well... following that logic, you have zero right to get on my dress about using the word "cunt," then. Because you don't tolerate my choice of words and you don't accept my use of them.

    So... try listening to yourself for a bit. Thanks.

    What she is trying to articulate to you is, YOU are the obnoxious, rude and vile one (hey maybe it runs in the family) and let me add You have the nasty's language of anyone on the MT.
    Would you tolerate the word Faggot?
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,605
    aerial wrote:
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    So... I have to "tollerate" and support and accept the obnoxious and rude and vile and just plain vindictively mean behavior of my sister if I expect others to allow me some equality?

    Well... following that logic, you have zero right to get on my dress about using the word "cunt," then. Because you don't tolerate my choice of words and you don't accept my use of them.

    So... try listening to yourself for a bit. Thanks.

    What she is trying to articulate to you is, YOU are the obnoxious, rude and vile one (hey maybe it runs in the family) and let me add You have the nasty's language of anyone on the MT.
    Would you tolerate the word Faggot?
    Umm, really? This too?
    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Prince Of Dorkness
    Prince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    aerial wrote:
    Would you tolerate the word Faggot?

    No, but from, you I'd expect it.
    I can't drive without Pearl Jam
  • Prince Of Dorkness
    Prince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    pandora wrote:
    But you as everyone will get what you/they dish in life.
    What goes around comes around and don't do what you don't like others doing.
    When you give love and understanding you are more likely to receive it.

    I see. So it's my fault that I have an obnoxious, self-centered sibling. Got it.
    I can't drive without Pearl Jam
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    But you as everyone will get what you/they dish in life.
    What goes around comes around and don't do what you don't like others doing.
    When you give love and understanding you are more likely to receive it.

    I see. So it's my fault that I have an obnoxious, self-centered sibling. Got it.
    I don't know but I do know that it does take two.

    I'm not trying to find fault I'm trying to help and I know no one asked for that.

    When I feel this kind of thing in families I know there are more than just one hurting
    no matter how low they shove the pain down... it hurts and is a disappointment.
    This family interaction is lethal to love.

    Each one is an individual and can make a difference if only for themselves,
    which is really the most important thing.
    We are working on ourselves and can change ourselves to let love in even if we don't get it
    back, even if the other family member doesn't get it.

    I've learned never be too proud to forgive, don't have to forget,
    but forgiving and giving can make more and if nothing else it is very freeing.

    Anyway this my reaction to your words, runs deep for me cause I once found myself
    filled with hate and had to forgive and let it go. Not for them but for me.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,853
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    I WAS RIGHT ABOUT YOU !!!!!
    you might want to take your own advice cup cake and get over your own self.

    Godfather.


    Actually... no... I think he's right about you.

    You get yourself worked up into a big pool of Santorum every time the subject of gay anything comes up. You go out of your way to make bizarre, meaningless statements like "I don't agree with it" or "I don't like it" but refuse to explain what you mean by that.

    And you seem to use a lot of girly gay references like "cupcake" and "fruit cake" which only the deeply-closeted men use.

    Just come out, Godfather... you'll feel much better.

    Honest question, why is the natural defense mechanism of gay men to call a straight man gay?

    Just seems weird to me.
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