Why gay marriage is good for straight America

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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,394
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  • 81
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    lets back up for a second and for get the whole gay vs straight debate....

    wouldn't gay marriage be bad for america?

    it has the potential to reduce tax's and increase social security costs. Seems like that would be bad for america.
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    My brother in law says that he'd disown his kids if they are gay when they grow up. And he says being gay is against nature. Then he admits that he has never met or known any homosexual in his entire life. Ideas like that just blow my mind. Since when did we stop being a part of nature? If it exists, it is natural. Gays exist, so homosexuality is jsut another part of nature. And since when was it worth hating something that doesn't affect you at all?

    i'll bet there where homosexual cave people back in the day, lesbians and gay dudes. neanderthal and cromagnon man both. very gay and very much into rocks, fires, spears, and being gay in the cave.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    My brother in law says that he'd disown his kids if they are gay when they grow up. And he says being gay is against nature. Then he admits that he has never met or known any homosexual in his entire life. Ideas like that just blow my mind. Since when did we stop being a part of nature? If it exists, it is natural. Gays exist, so homosexuality is jsut another part of nature. And since when was it worth hating something that doesn't affect you at all?

    And Godfather, being grossed out by gays and sick to the stomach? I've seen straight people doing things on the net that made me feel more disgusted than homosexual acts ever could. I wouldn't do the shit that I saw straight people doing which made me feel queezy but, you know, they seemed to like it. I ain't gonna judge then, what is the point? (Of course, I was searching for something else and I jsut came across it by accident.)

    And the marriage thing is obvious, it has to be a right for every person to have something like a civil union at least that protects their property and inheritance and allows them to take mortgages and get along just like other folks in love.

    Don't waste the fire in your belly on hating people who don't cause you trouble.

    I don't hate I may not personally aprove or get grossed out but hate is very final and life is to short to worry about hate..it's also to short to let someone else try and change my mind on how I live and what I believe in or what I aprove or disaprove of,I'm always open to listen and learn but some issues are not up for debate.

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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    chadwick wrote:
    My brother in law says that he'd disown his kids if they are gay when they grow up. And he says being gay is against nature. Then he admits that he has never met or known any homosexual in his entire life. Ideas like that just blow my mind. Since when did we stop being a part of nature? If it exists, it is natural. Gays exist, so homosexuality is jsut another part of nature. And since when was it worth hating something that doesn't affect you at all?

    i'll bet there where homosexual cave people back in the day, lesbians and gay dudes. neanderthal and cromagnon man both. very gay and very much into rocks, fires, spears, and being gay in the cave.

    that very thought just makes my brain hurt....somehow I doubt that happened. :lol:

    Godfather.
  • rollings
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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    It would be good for gay individuals to marry if they want to,
    that basic right would make them very happy and fulfill their dreams.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    o.k so tell me again why is gay marriage good for straight America cause I don't see anything that would improve in America thru gay marriage, it's personal choice if that's what you guy's want go for it but really I don't see this benefitting me(straight America) in the least.

    Godfather.
  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    Godfather. wrote:
    o.k so tell me again why is gay marriage good for straight America cause I don't see anything that would improve in America thru gay marriage, it's personal choice if that's what you guy's want go for it but really I don't see this benefitting me(straight America) in the least.

    Godfather.

    Personally, I think its a long deserved evolution of human rights and tolerance.
    I feel like we ARE neanderthals if we discriminate and dont allow someone to marry who they love.
    As many people in this thread have also said, why are we even talking about this?? It really shouldnt even be a debate...Gay marriage should be 100% available in every state, and I believe it will be one day...Then we/politicians can move on to more important stuff. Thats why it is good for the world, not just America.
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  • he still stands
    he still stands Posts: 2,835
    Godfather. wrote:
    o.k so tell me again why is gay marriage good for straight America cause I don't see anything that would improve in America thru gay marriage, it's personal choice if that's what you guy's want go for it but really I don't see this benefitting me(straight America) in the least.

    Godfather.

    well, no, nothing personally would change for me, either. There's no direct benefit to most people, except for the broad notion that we are living in a world of acceptance and freedom rather than a world of bigotry and societal engineering designed by archaic and lizard-brained politicians.
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  • 81 wrote:
    lets back up for a second and for get the whole gay vs straight debate....

    wouldn't gay marriage be bad for america?

    it has the potential to reduce tax's and increase social security costs. Seems like that would be bad for america.

    But think of all the money that will be spent on fabulous, outlandish weddings! That alone ought to cut your country's deficit in half! The cost to the country certainly isn't an issue within this issue, especially since it's such a small percentage of people who a.) are gay (openly so) and b.) are gay and want to get married.
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  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    81 wrote:
    lets back up for a second and for get the whole gay vs straight debate....

    wouldn't gay marriage be bad for america?

    it has the potential to reduce tax's and increase social security costs. Seems like that would be bad for america.

    But think of all the money that will be spent on fabulous, outlandish weddings! That alone ought to cut your country's deficit in half! The cost to the country certainly isn't an issue within this issue, especially since it's such a small percentage of people who a.) are gay (openly so) and b.) are gay and want to get married.


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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Godfather. wrote:
    o.k so tell me again why is gay marriage good for straight America cause I don't see anything that would improve in America thru gay marriage, it's personal choice if that's what you guy's want go for it but really I don't see this benefitting me(straight America) in the least.

    Godfather.

    well, no, nothing personally would change for me, either. There's no direct benefit to most people, except for the broad notion that we are living in a world of acceptance and freedom rather than a world of bigotry and societal engineering designed by archaic and lizard-brained politicians.

    "lizard-brained politicians." :lol: I gotta give ya that one bro but I am not sure if what you are talking about is progression or regression, let's look back at t.v raido theater and stage in the 50's and earlier then look at the state of the country during those economic times when made in America ment something and 80 or 90 % of good's used by Americans were made in America and business' did well ..now lets fast forward to the 60's the begining of free love and a culture advocating drug's and young people that wanted to fight the establishment or big brother or the man and slowley we move to today where progress has turned intertainment into a verbal cest pool ,we have out-soursed the American way of life and we give billions to forgin countries and worry about our retired people getting their SS checks (something they have worked for all their lives) and the meaning of family values has changed at the cost of our young because we tell them "it's o.k or parents are to ez to split from their responsibaltys...just the change Ive seen in the 30 years is bad and nobody want's to own up to it (let's blame it on the system...right) so in the grand sceam of thing's I am seeing more regression than progression and it's not regressing back to a better time it's progressing to a leud and violent behaiver from our young that learn from us because we said "it's o.k"..
    anyway just my thought on it sorry for the rant.

    Godfather.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,670
    Godfather. wrote:

    well, no, nothing personally would change for me, either. There's no direct benefit to most people, except for the broad notion that we are living in a world of acceptance and freedom rather than a world of bigotry and societal engineering designed by archaic and lizard-brained politicians.

    "lizard-brained politicians." :lol: I gotta give ya that one bro but I am not sure if what you are talking about is progression or regression, let's look back at t.v raido theater and stage in the 50's and earlier then look at the state of the country during those economic times when made in America ment something and 80 or 90 % of good's used by Americans were made in America and business' did well ..now lets fast forward to the 60's the begining of free love and a culture advocating drug's and young people that wanted to fight the establishment or big brother or the man and slowley we move to today where progress has turned intertainment into a verbal cest pool ,we have out-soursed the American way of life and we give billions to forgin countries and worry about our retired people getting their SS checks (something they have worked for all their lives) and the meaning of family values has changed at the cost of our young because we tell them "it's o.k or parents are to ez to split from their responsibaltys...just the change Ive seen in the 30 years is bad and nobody want's to own up to it (let's blame it on the system...right) so in the grand sceam of thing's I am seeing more regression than progression and it's not regressing back to a better time it's progressing to a leud and violent behaiver from our young that learn from us because we said "it's o.k"..
    anyway just my thought on it sorry for the rant.

    Godfather.

    Interesting part of your post: "I am seeing more regression than progression". You're not seeing what's happening with only one eye open.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Go Beavers wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:

    well, no, nothing personally would change for me, either. There's no direct benefit to most people, except for the broad notion that we are living in a world of acceptance and freedom rather than a world of bigotry and societal engineering designed by archaic and lizard-brained politicians.

    "lizard-brained politicians." :lol: I gotta give ya that one bro but I am not sure if what you are talking about is progression or regression, let's look back at t.v raido theater and stage in the 50's and earlier then look at the state of the country during those economic times when made in America ment something and 80 or 90 % of good's used by Americans were made in America and business' did well ..now lets fast forward to the 60's the begining of free love and a culture advocating drug's and young people that wanted to fight the establishment or big brother or the man and slowley we move to today where progress has turned intertainment into a verbal cest pool ,we have out-soursed the American way of life and we give billions to forgin countries and worry about our retired people getting their SS checks (something they have worked for all their lives) and the meaning of family values has changed at the cost of our young because we tell them "it's o.k or parents are to ez to split from their responsibaltys...just the change Ive seen in the 30 years is bad and nobody want's to own up to it (let's blame it on the system...right) so in the grand sceam of thing's I am seeing more regression than progression and it's not regressing back to a better time it's progressing to a leud and violent behaiver from our young that learn from us because we said "it's o.k"..
    anyway just my thought on it sorry for the rant.

    Godfather.

    Interesting part of your post: "I am seeing more regression than progression". You're not seeing what's happening with only one eye open.

    you know what ? just a side note; I think one of the thing's that put this country in a tail spin was the 60's drug movment..well at least a fair part of it anyway.

    Godfather.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Godfather. wrote:
    you know what ? just a side note; I think one of the thing's that put this country in a tail spin was the 60's drug movment..well at least a fair part of it anyway.

    Godfather.

    My father always said the same... back in the 60's when I was a little girl

    I agree
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 13,066
    Godfather. wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    o.k so tell me again why is gay marriage good for straight America cause I don't see anything that would improve in America thru gay marriage, it's personal choice if that's what you guy's want go for it but really I don't see this benefitting me(straight America) in the least.

    Godfather.

    well, no, nothing personally would change for me, either. There's no direct benefit to most people, except for the broad notion that we are living in a world of acceptance and freedom rather than a world of bigotry and societal engineering designed by archaic and lizard-brained politicians.

    "lizard-brained politicians." :lol: I gotta give ya that one bro but I am not sure if what you are talking about is progression or regression, let's look back at t.v raido theater and stage in the 50's and earlier then look at the state of the country during those economic times when made in America ment something and 80 or 90 % of good's used by Americans were made in America and business' did well ..now lets fast forward to the 60's the begining of free love and a culture advocating drug's and young people that wanted to fight the establishment or big brother or the man and slowley we move to today where progress has turned intertainment into a verbal cest pool ,we have out-soursed the American way of life and we give billions to forgin countries and worry about our retired people getting their SS checks (something they have worked for all their lives) and the meaning of family values has changed at the cost of our young because we tell them "it's o.k or parents are to ez to split from their responsibaltys...just the change Ive seen in the 30 years is bad and nobody want's to own up to it (let's blame it on the system...right) so in the grand sceam of thing's I am seeing more regression than progression and it's not regressing back to a better time it's progressing to a leud and violent behaiver from our young that learn from us because we said "it's o.k"..
    anyway just my thought on it sorry for the rant.

    Godfather.

    "the good old days weren't always good" Billy Joel.

    it's a human rights issue same as slavery and woman's rights were. in 20 years the fight against gay marriage will seem as ridiculous as the notion of women not being able to vote now seems.
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 13,066
    Godfather. wrote:

    you know what ? just a side note; I think one of the thing's that put this country in a tail spin was the 60's drug movment..well at least a fair part of it anyway.

    Godfather.

    the current 'look-at-me i need or want attention' attitude is leading to our downfall more than a movement that came 40+ years ago. an example is someone feeling the need to put their name at the bottom of every post :roll:
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    pjhawks wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:

    you know what ? just a side note; I think one of the thing's that put this country in a tail spin was the 60's drug movment..well at least a fair part of it anyway.

    Godfather.

    the current 'look-at-me i need or want attention' attitude is leading to our downfall more than a movement that came 40+ years ago. an example is someone feeling the need to put their name at the bottom of every post :roll:

    ummm...reading your post reminds me of a BB in a beer can,that rattle drives people nutty but it's o.k it's not your falt someone had to drink the beer first before they threw the can out the truck window. :shh:

    Godfather. ;)
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 13,066
    Godfather. wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:

    you know what ? just a side note; I think one of the thing's that put this country in a tail spin was the 60's drug movment..well at least a fair part of it anyway.

    Godfather.

    the current 'look-at-me i need or want attention' attitude is leading to our downfall more than a movement that came 40+ years ago. an example is someone feeling the need to put their name at the bottom of every post :roll:

    ummm...reading your post reminds me of a BB in a beer can,that rattle drives people nutty but it's o.k it's not your falt someone had to drink the beer first before they threw the can out the truck window. :shh:

    Godfather. ;)

    I have no idea what this is supposed to mean :?

    Godchild