Why gay marriage is good for straight America

JonnyPistachio

http://www.newsweek.com/2011/07/17/andr ... erica.html

This was a really good read.

"You can have as many debates about gay marriage as you want, and over the last 22 years of campaigning for it, I’ve had my share. You can debate theology, and the divide between church and state, the issue of procreation, the red herring of polygamy, and on and on. But what it all really comes down to is the primary institution of love. The small percentage of people who are gay or lesbian were born, as all humans are, with the capacity to love and the need to be loved. These things, above everything, are what make life worth living. And unlike every other minority, almost all of us grew up among and part of the majority, in families where the highest form of that love was between our parents in marriage. To feel you will never know that, never feel that, is to experience a deep psychic wound that takes years to recover from. It is to become psychologically homeless. Which is why, I think, the concept of “coming out” is not quite right. It should really be called “coming home.”"

Lone Drawn Meteor

Closets are for Clothes. Our gay brothers and sisters deserve to find and know lifelong love in the arms of marriage. Thanks for the article.

Godfather.

:wtf:

Godfather.

JonnyPistachio

Godfather. wrote:

:wtf:

Godfather.

Did you even read the article?

Godfather.

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

:wtf:

Godfather.

Did you even read the article?

yes I gave it that much...then I looked at the wedding gallery and got that sick queezy feeling in my stomic
sorry man this stuff just grosses me out,I can't even imagine this sort of thing in my life.

Godfather.

polaris_x

i think the title should be why gay marriage is good for ignorant america ...

the US i would suspect has the same proportion of gay people as many places that allow gay marriage ... this whole issue is ultimately about human rights ...

chadwick

Godfather. wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

:wtf:

Godfather.

Did you even read the article?

yes I gave it that much...then I looked at the wedding gallery and got that sick queezy feeling in my stomic
sorry man this stuff just grosses me out,I can't even imagine this sort of thing in my life.

Godfather.

isn't that kinda narrow-minded and weak though, Godfather? it isn't 1920 anymore, gay folks are decent just like everyone else. they do not make me sick and queezy feeling and i love women. they want to be happy and fulfilled like you or i.

chadwick.

p.s. dont be a homophobe
those ppl are idiots

81

marriage in any form is a sham

Lizard

Thanks for sharing that.

cincybearcat

Lone Drawn Meteor wrote:

find and know lifelong love in the arms of marriage.

HAHAHAHA ... who gets that? You aren't married are you?

BinauralJam

Ugly people go through the same thing, but nobody cares about them, because you know, there Ugly.
Now if your Ugly and Gay, i truly feel bad for you.

Godfather.

Chadwick what exactly is a homophobe ? and to me the thought of two men dilly'n each other is disgusting and then the pic's of two men holding each other .....ohhhh shit I need to vomit.
this site is turning into a gay support site...I just don't get it, if a man wants to marry another man it aint my business but that's not the reason I came onto PEARLJAM TEN CLUB, so if your asking me to embrace and support gay sex and or marrige your waaaaaay off the mark,I don't care to read about some dude's boyfriend
or how cool you guy's think it is that these men are coming out...or coming home :roll:
I have been pretty tollerent and did my best to keep my comments to myself but it seems that nobody else will
when it comes to other thing's that I or some others support or believe in on here.

Godfather.

JonnyPistachio

Godfather. wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

:wtf:

Godfather.

Did you even read the article?

yes I gave it that much...then I looked at the wedding gallery and got that sick queezy feeling in my stomic
sorry man this stuff just grosses me out,I can't even imagine this sort of thing in my life.

Godfather.

A sick queezy feeling from pictures of people getting married? Wow. Maybe your imagination is just too good I guess. :P

Actually, the pic #9.. or 9/10 I thought was a great picture. I felt you could see the joy and happiness in their faces.

I have a cousin who is gay. He is a very intelligent, funny, amazing person..and imagining that anyone wouldnt want him to get married is just sad to me. I felt this article was really good because it made me wonder what a gay person really has to go through. Though I'll never really know, it is saddening.

I found this interesting too:
"If you’re a heterosexual reading this, have you ever considered for a millisecond that your right to pursue happiness did not include your right to marry the person you love? And that is why, over the centuries, the U.S. Supreme Court has upheld the right to marry for everyone, citizen or even traveler, as a core, inalienable right, bestowed by the Declaration of Independence itself. The court has ruled that the right to marry precedes the Bill of Rights; it has decided that prisoners on death row have a right to marry, even if they can never consummate it. It has ruled that no limitations may be put on it for anyone—deadbeat dads, multiple divorcées, felons, noncitizens. Hannah Arendt wrote in 1959 that “the right to marry whoever one wishes is an elementary human right … Even political rights, like the right to vote, and nearly all other rights enumerated in the Constitution, are secondary to the inalienable human rights to ‘life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness’ proclaimed in the Declaration of Independence; and to this category the right to home and marriage unquestionably belongs.”"

Godfather.

BinauralJam wrote:

Ugly people go through the same thing, but nobody cares about them, because you know, there Ugly.
Now if your Ugly and Gay, i truly feel bad for you.

that's some funny stuff there !!!!!

Godfather.

Godfather.

I found this interesting too:
"If you’re a heterosexual reading this, have you ever considered for a millisecond that your right to pursue happiness did not include your right to marry the person you love? And that is why, over the centuries, the U.S. Supreme Court has upheld the right to marry for everyone, citizen or even traveler, as a core, inalienable right, bestowed by the Declaration of Independence itself. The court has ruled that the right to marry precedes the Bill of Rights; it has decided that prisoners on death row have a right to marry, even if they can never consummate it. It has ruled that no limitations may be put on it for anyone—deadbeat dads, multiple divorcées, felons, noncitizens. Hannah Arendt wrote in 1959 that “the right to marry whoever one wishes is an elementary human right … Even political rights, like the right to vote, and nearly all other rights enumerated in the Constitution, are secondary to the inalienable human rights to ‘life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness’ proclaimed in the Declaration of Independence; and to this category the right to home and marriage unquestionably belongs.”"


sorry Bro it means nothing to me.

Godfather.

JonnyPistachio

Godfather. wrote:

Chadwick what exactly is a homophobe ? and to me the thought of two men dilly'n each other is disgusting and then the pic's of two men holding each other .....ohhhh shit I need to vomit.
this site is turning into a gay support site...I just don't get it, if a man wants to marry another man it aint my business but that's not the reason I came onto PEARLJAM TEN CLUB, so if your asking me to embrace and support gay sex and or marrige your waaaaaay off the mark,I don't care to read about some dude's boyfriend
or how cool you guy's think it is that these men are coming out...or coming home :roll:
I have been pretty tollerent and did my best to keep my comments to myself but it seems that nobody else will
when it comes to other thing's that I or some others support or believe in on here.

Godfather.

Maybe just try to stop imagining them having sex bro.
Ever imagine your parents having sex?? its a disgusting thought, sure, but you wouldnt be here if THAT had'nt happened. Just because it seems gross to you doesnt mean certain people should not be allowed the same rights as you. I think dirty people are gross, and it makes me queasy to think about old, saggy, fat people having sweaty sex, but it doesnt mean they shouldnt be able to get married.

I respect your opinion, and i'm honestly not trying to change it, but maybe you're thinking of sex too much! lol!

he still stands

definition of homophobe = Godfather.

Not being incendiary... based on your language here it is an unfortunate fact. The THOUGHT makes you "queezy" in your "stomic." Do blacks make you feel that way? Women in the workplace? Where does your bigotry start and stop?

Godfather.

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

Chadwick what exactly is a homophobe ? and to me the thought of two men dilly'n each other is disgusting and then the pic's of two men holding each other .....ohhhh shit I need to vomit.
this site is turning into a gay support site...I just don't get it, if a man wants to marry another man it aint my business but that's not the reason I came onto PEARLJAM TEN CLUB, so if your asking me to embrace and support gay sex and or marrige your waaaaaay off the mark,I don't care to read about some dude's boyfriend
or how cool you guy's think it is that these men are coming out...or coming home :roll:
I have been pretty tollerent and did my best to keep my comments to myself but it seems that nobody else will
when it comes to other thing's that I or some others support or believe in on here.

Godfather.

Maybe just try to stop imagining them having sex bro.
Ever imagine your parents having sex?? its a disgusting thought, sure, but you wouldnt be here if THAT had'nt happened. Just because it seems gross to you doesnt mean certain people should not be allowed the same rights as you. I think dirty people are gross, and it makes me queasy to think about old, saggy, fat people having sweaty sex, but it doesnt mean they shouldnt be able to get married.

I respect your opinion, and i'm honestly not trying to change it, but maybe you're thinking of sex too much! lol!

ohhh man brother that's got mee laughing my ass off "and it makes me queasy to think about old, saggy, fat people having sweaty sex,"

Godfather.

chadwick

Godfather you are drunk and from arkansas.

Chadwick.

Godfather.

he still stands wrote:

definition of homophobe = Godfather.

Not being incendiary... based on your language here it is an unfortunate fact. The THOUGHT makes you "queezy" in your "stomic." Do blacks make you feel that way? Women in the workplace? Where does your bigotry start and stop?

" Do blacks make you feel that way? Women in the workplace? Where does your bigotry start and stop?[/quote]

you may not be your mothers brightest child.....wtf does Women in the workplace or Blacks have to do with ANYTHING I POSTED.....

Godfather.

justam

I think that it's important that gay people get the right to marry who they want to because they are adults and it is UNFAIR to them if they are not allowed to marry an adult that they love.

I think it has to do with human rights.