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Backspacer vs Avocado
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I just read and posted in another thread about how people hate Unemployable. But thats not the question here. My question is which album does everyone think is better? Personally I think Avacado is one of the best albums they wrote. Matt and mike are absurdly amazing on this album. Gone - Inside Job is one of my favorite 5 track runs that PJ has and it sound even better on vinyl. This album just blows Backspacer out of the water. And I personally dont really think Backspacer is that good of an album.
My least favorite one so far is Backspacer (although I do think before you really rank an album another album has to be released after it to get a betterperspective on it). Personally the only songs that do it for me on Backspacer are Got some, Fixer, Johnny Guitar and Amongst the Waves. The rest is kind of annoying to me. Especially Just Breathe and The End. Just too much EV for me on this album and not enough Pearl Jam.
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My least favorite one so far is Backspacer (although I do think before you really rank an album another album has to be released after it to get a betterperspective on it). Personally the only songs that do it for me on Backspacer are Got some, Fixer, Johnny Guitar and Amongst the Waves. The rest is kind of annoying to me. Especially Just Breathe and The End. Just too much EV for me on this album and not enough Pearl Jam.
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The self titled album is great but it seems stretched out. They should have ended the album with the guitar solo from Come Back. Inside Job just does nothing for me. Parachutes is beatuful and Life Wasted, Marker in the Sand and Army Reserve are great. Gone is just eh...it's much better live that what was captured on the album.
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That being said, I'd vote for BS, because when it is Pearl Jam it's pretty good (i.e. Tracks 1-5)
I loved Avacado when it came out, but other than Life Wasted (PJ classic), the album had no staying power for me.
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Side Note: Speed of sound was really starting to grow on me weeks leading up to Eddie's solo shows. When I heard him play it night 2 in Chicago he put that song on another level for me.
But someone said that when Backspacer came out they could relate more to the songs. I would agree with this. So F it. I'm changing it too a tie. Call me Swiss I don't care.
BINGO, that last line hits the nail ont eh head. When it came out I also loved it but nothing on it has had any staying power for me either. Backspacer has several titles with alot of staying power much liek their early stuff
Now I love it. It's my favorite since Yield (yes, I like Backspacer better than Binaural).
for the least they could possibly do
Not trying to start fights, especially with Rico cause he'll tear me apart. Backspacer is a very good album, but when I listen to Avocado, I think that its one of the best albums I've ever listened to. Everything about it is perfect. Kickass, chilling, whatever other words to describe all of the songs. I love this album and for me, it may be Pearl Jams best.
For the people that dont like Avocado, I cant really understand that.
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I think the Backspacer lyrics are some of the best Ed has ever committed to paper. Whoa.
for the least they could possibly do
There's this thing called taste, and another thing called opinions. Some people like vanilla ice cream, some people prefer chocolate.
for the least they could possibly do
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Tres Mts. Gramercy Theatre 3/26/11
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Yeah I kinda AGREE with you there!...Although there ARE a couple of Songs off *BS* that I like...as a Whole *AVO* wins for me...
See I'd go with cajunkiwi on this. GSMF, Got Some, Unthought Known - dreadful lyrics and everytime I hear the 'gems and rhinestones' bit I cringe.
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2013: Brad Manchester : Soundgarden Manchester
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2018: Berlin; London II; Boston II
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They're not nearly on par with any other PJ album. I think the high point is Force of Nature and it's really great lyrically, but there's at least one song that has the worst lyrics he's ever done. I would expect the lyrics from UK to be written by Brandon Boyd of Incubus.....just generic as it gets.
i like Advocado - it contains one of my fave Pj moments - top 3 song even.
But BS is just so consistant whereas advocado wasnt quite as cohesive.
lmao. Wouldnt say dreadful, but i totally understand what you mean. The lyrics lack in comparison to Avocado.
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I will agree that BS is probably their most consistent album. It's consistently average.
Every other album seemingly has so much more thought out into the music and arrangements.
I like the lyrics on all those songs ... especially Unthought Known. Gems and rhinestones doesn't bother me. And, my God, the rest of that song gives me goosebumps. Certainly, I'll take "gems and rhinestones" as a lyric ahead of "got me a big wave ride me a big wave got me a big wave."
I don't mean this as a put-down to Avocado. I like the album. But if you're forcing me to choose, I choose Backspacer. It fits where I am in my life right now.
for the least they could possibly do
You're spot on there. Everytime I hear the 'gems and rhinestones' bit I always think of Incubus' "Diamonds And Coals"
2006: Dublin; Leeds; Arnhem
2007: London
2009: Manchester
2012: Manchester I & II : EV Manchester : Soundgarden Shepherds Bush
2013: Brad Manchester : Soundgarden Manchester
2014: Amsterdam I & II; Berlin; Leeds; Milton Keynes
2018: Berlin; London II; Boston II
Bootleg Reviews: http://pjbootlegreviews.blogspot.com/
And that I fully respect :thumbup:
2006: Dublin; Leeds; Arnhem
2007: London
2009: Manchester
2012: Manchester I & II : EV Manchester : Soundgarden Shepherds Bush
2013: Brad Manchester : Soundgarden Manchester
2014: Amsterdam I & II; Berlin; Leeds; Milton Keynes
2018: Berlin; London II; Boston II
Bootleg Reviews: http://pjbootlegreviews.blogspot.com/
I think you guys are getting too fixated on three words. It's just a poetic way of saying "stars."
for the least they could possibly do
I love vanilla ice cream. I'm sorry but folks who prefer chocolate need to get their tastebuds checked. Sorry, I could not resist
Back to the original post.. I prefer Avocado. Lyrics more thoughtful and more nuances to the songs. I agree with another poster about Just Breathe and The End. Can't stand either one, they are up there with Last Kiss in terms of songs I'd prefer not to hear at a concert and yet I've heard them so many times that I can probably sing them in my sleep :shock:
I will say the one thing I do appreciate about Backspacer is when the boys sing The Fixer and it comes to the part where it goes "yea yea yea", I love seeing Mike, Jeff, Ed and Stone all lined up at the microphones.