Religious Beliefs

ShimmyMommy · May 2011

redrock wrote:

blondieblue227 wrote:

i'd like to step in and ask "what are you doing on the day of The Rapture?"

Well... here is a bit of advice about it (hope I'm not offending anyone as it's sweet, really!)

http://www.atheistmedia.com/2011/05/rapture-advice.html

I LOVE IT!!!

pandora · May 2011

The End is always a New Beginning

Flutter Girl · May 2011

wolfamongwolves wrote:

Flutter Girl wrote:

There is no proof, scientific, or otherwise, of how everything came into existence. I love science and know evolution is what formed us. I'm talking about the very very beginning. Perhaps even before the universe formed. Something still heavily debated by scientists.

Until we know how existence, itself, came into being, then absolutely noone can say for fact that there is no God. Who are any of us to tell someone else what they believe is wrong? Or to mock it, as a couple people did my beliefs on this thread?
All it does is lead to tearing each other down.

I agree with everything in this post. At the same time, by the very same token as you say "no one can say for a fact that there is no God", neither can anyone say for a fact that there is a god.

Exactly. I meant it to go both ways. I cannot prove there is a God any more than anyone else can prove there isn't. There should be no burden of proof on anyone. We should be allowed to believe whatever helps us move through life. My belief that I will see my loved ones in the afterlife is the only thing keeping me going at this point, as much as I've lost. Who is anyone to try and take that sliver of hope away from me?

Pandora- your post about mother's made me cry, thank you for posting it.

pandora · May 2011

Flutter Girl wrote:

Pandora- your post about mother's made me cry, thank you for posting it.

welcome

glad you enjoyed... I know when I cry its when I most enjoy!

wanted to add...
I heard a quote from a survivor of the tornado disaster,
he said...

"They say these are the 'Acts of God'...I've never understood this.
The Acts of God is all this"...

as he points to all the people who have come to his community,
strangers who have come to help, help pull out the survivors buried beneath the rubble,
help with generosity and love and help by sharing the tears and sorrow.

These... the Acts of God.

EmBleve · May 2011

pandora wrote:

wanted to add...
I heard a quote from a survivor of the tornado disaster,
he said...

"They say these are the 'Acts of God'...I've never understood this.
The Acts of God is all this"...

as he points to all the people who have come to his community,
strangers who have come to help, help pull out the survivors buried beneath the rubble,
help with generosity and love and help by sharing the tears and sorrow.

These... the Acts of God.

Pandora, this reminds me of a story I heard just the other day....a friend of mine said that when he was little, he would see all these terrifying things on the news--natural disasters and such. He said it used to really scare him and make him wonder 'why?'.. His mom told him, 'when you watch the news and see those things, look for the people who are helping--you will see them; concentrate on those who are helping'. From then on, he says that's what he always does...and he always sees them. I thought that was a beautiful story.

pandora · May 2011

EmBleve wrote:

pandora wrote:

wanted to add...
I heard a quote from a survivor of the tornado disaster,
he said...

"They say these are the 'Acts of God'...I've never understood this.
The Acts of God is all this"...

as he points to all the people who have come to his community,
strangers who have come to help, help pull out the survivors buried beneath the rubble,
help with generosity and love and help by sharing the tears and sorrow.

These... the Acts of God.

Pandora, this reminds me of a story I heard just the other day....a friend of mine said that when he was little, he would see all these terrifying things on the news--natural disasters and such. He said it used to really scare him and make him wonder 'why?'.. His mom told him, 'when you watch the news and see those things, look for the people who are helping--you will see them; concentrate on those who are helping'. From then on, he says that's what he always does...and he always sees them. I thought that was a beautiful story.

that is a beautiful story and a very beautiful Mom... what a wonderful gift she gave to her child,
seeing the world through eyes like that.... eyes of hope!

Thanks for sharing Embleve

EmBleve · May 2011

pandora wrote:

that is a beautiful story and a very beautiful Mom... what a wonderful gift she gave to her child,
seeing the world through eyes like that.... eyes of hope!

yes, I thought so, too. Hopeful, yes. ... it was inspirational. It gave me a new perspective, as it did him when he was young. It was indeed a wonderful gift she gave him.

ShimmyMommy · May 2011

EmBleve wrote:

Pandora, this reminds me of a story I heard just the other day....a friend of mine said that when he was little, he would see all these terrifying things on the news--natural disasters and such. He said it used to really scare him and make him wonder 'why?'.. His mom told him, 'when you watch the news and see those things, look for the people who are helping--you will see them; concentrate on those who are helping'. From then on, he says that's what he always does...and he always sees them. I thought that was a beautiful story.

Thanks for this today, EmBleve, I needed it.

Flutter Girl · June 2011

That reminded me of a book called A Course In Miracles. In the intro it says "Miracles occur naturally as expressions of love. The real miracle is the love that inspires them. In this sense everything that comes from love is a miracle."

fuck · June 2011

Three ants met on the nose of a man who was asleep in the sun. And after they had saluted one another, each according to the custom of his tribe, they stood there conversing.

The first ant said, “These hills and plains are the most barren I have known. I have searched all day for a grain of some sort, and there is none to be found.”

Said the second ant, “I too have found nothing, though I have visited every nook and glade. This is, I believe, what my people call the soft, moving land where nothing grows.”

Then the third ant raised his head and said, “My friends, we are standing now on the nose of the Supreme Ant, the mighty and infinite Ant, whose body is so great that we cannot see it, whose shadow is so vast that we cannot trace it, whose voice is so loud that we cannot hear it; and He is omnipresent.”

When the third ant spoke thus the other ants looked at each other and laughed.

At that moment the man moved and in his sleep raised his hand and scratched his nose, and the three ants were crushed.

EmBleve · June 2011

ShimmyMommy wrote:

EmBleve wrote:

Pandora, this reminds me of a story I heard just the other day....a friend of mine said that when he was little, he would see all these terrifying things on the news--natural disasters and such. He said it used to really scare him and make him wonder 'why?'.. His mom told him, 'when you watch the news and see those things, look for the people who are helping--you will see them; concentrate on those who are helping'. From then on, he says that's what he always does...and he always sees them. I thought that was a beautiful story.

Thanks for this today, EmBleve, I needed it.

EmBleve · June 2011

Flutter Girl wrote:

That reminded me of a book called A Course In Miracles. In the intro it says "Miracles occur naturally as expressions of love. The real miracle is the love that inspires them. In this sense everything that comes from love is a miracle."

yes, and this you can see every day if you look for it.

Jeanwah · June 2011

EmBleve wrote:

Flutter Girl wrote:

That reminded me of a book called A Course In Miracles. In the intro it says "Miracles occur naturally as expressions of love. The real miracle is the love that inspires them. In this sense everything that comes from love is a miracle."

yes, and this you can see every day if you look for it.

:thumbup: I like.

zarocat · January 2012

Church defined ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0TbCwC3OuY

blondieblue227 · February 2012

ok, what do ya'll think i should do about this?

i posted my opinions here on this thread before but they were so far back, i'll post my blog on religion to let you know how i feel. http://ivys2cents.blogspot.com/2009/08/ ... -this.html

i'm a person with a disability. tonight i taught a university class on Inclusion in school. i have aides. mine heard my talk tonight because she drove my there.

here's basically what i said to the class http://youtu.be/PVbq1TImFjc it's 25mins long. lol! but really it says why/how schools should include kids with disabilities.

i realize that religion helps me in the fact that my aides are caring do right people. so they in theory are perfect for being my aide. a certain connection happens when you take care of somebody for so long. that's where i have trouble a lot with aides. they tend to want to take over. i see my aides as assistants, nothing more, maybe a friend. i'm sure she doesn't see herself as that.

out of my inclusion talk she got i don't feel included and felt the need to tell me God loves me. there's a definite heaven and hell. God doesn't come to people you have to go to him. blah blah blah.

i tell my aides no religion talk when they start.

this is going to snowball i just know it and i'm going to have to fire her.

what would you do?

Cosmo · February 2012

blondieblue227 wrote:

ok, what do ya'll think i should do about this?
...
what would you do?

...
Hey...
It's a touchy situation. I think you just need to talk this one out with your aide. You may find that you inspire her... which may (or may not) trigger those emotions associated with religious belief/faith. I think you two just need to sit and discuss, letting each know where you stand. If things work out, they work out. If not, then it may be in both of your best interests to part ways. You're smart... you know what to do.
Anyway... I personally believe you are doing just fine. No one needs to pray for you... you are a beautiful woman and from what you say and write, it sounds like you've got your head screwed on straight. If someone is looking for someone to pray for... there are several million people who will go to sleep in hunger... out in the elements... with death hanging over their heads. Tell them to pray for those people... the ones whom God seems to have forsaken.
Good luck with that.

blondieblue227 · February 2012

thanks very much cosmo.

i think i will talk with her about it if she brings it up again and share that blog with her.
i'm too scared to bring it up myself because i don't want to cause a riff. it's sad but i don't feel people respect differences in beliefs enough to make me want to bring it up.

Cosmo · February 2012

blondieblue227 wrote:

thanks very much cosmo.

i think i will talk with her about it if she brings it up again and share that blog with her.
i'm too scared to bring it up myself because i don't want to cause a riff. it's sad but i don't feel people respect differences in beliefs enough to make me want to bring it up.

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I know what you mean.
I get all sorts of reactions... because I wish people well with their religious beliefs, but let them know that I don't believe them. Sorry, but that's the truth on how I feel. They need not convince me of anything... they can share their beliefs... and I'll listen. But, I won't follow.
Anyway, I like what you say... truthfully, Jesus doesn't need to heal you, you seem just fine to me.

blondieblue227 · February 2012

HA!
yup.
no healing for me!

but see then you're stuck dealing with the whole, "I must spread Gods word" thing. and it potentially won't stop. how do you deal with that?

Cosmo · February 2012

blondieblue227 wrote:

HA!
yup.
no healing for me!

but see then you're stuck dealing with the whole, "I must spread Gods word" thing. and it potentially won't stop. how do you deal with that?

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You really can't deal with that. All you can do is let them ramble on and listen... sometimes, it makes them feel good... talking it out. Problems that usually crop up... they talk, but don't listen.
I just say what I truely feel... I am happy they have found what they say they have found... but, i think I'll go in this direction instead. It's my calling... I'm following that different drum beat... over there... not where you've already been. It's not that I don't believe they believe to know the way... it's just that I don't believe them. Works for them... not for me, just like what works for me... I know won't work for them.
I still get the, "I'll say a prayer for you" thing ... which is nice... but, really... I'm okay. Pray for someone who really needs to be sent a prayer. Sometimes, they figure it out... sometimes, they never get the clue.

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