Was there a disclaimer on the bottom of that email from the sales person?
I'd be willing to bet there was. We are not even a company that deals in contracts and all our transmissions are auto tagged with a disclaimer that says this does not constitute a contract, so on and so forth. I'd be shocked if LN did not have this.
Regardless, that's still not a contract as various people pointed out. I couldn't care less if you got these tickets. I mean a dozen or so less tickets doesn't really change my equation of getting tickets very much.
Good luck.
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
oh yeah. not sure if i'm gonna stay somewhere up there or drive back and forth. I probably should figure that out soon, huh? you staying up there?
We have a room for Sat night. I think we'll drive back on Sunday night. we're usually so jacked up after a show that the first couple hours go by fast, and Alpine to home is only a couple hours for me.
This really seems like a huge LN screw-up. They go to great efforts to get as much money as they can out of everyone, and it doesn't seem as they have any shame in doing so. They have been overspending for years in order to become the huge monster they are.
It sucks for Sawyer, but I don't think the 10c did anything wrong here. LN put 10c in a bad situation.
LN has been dealing with angry patrons for a long time, so I wish him luck in getting results.
I doubt Sawyer has anything to worry about in regards to getting a refund....LN aint going anywhere.
Hope Sawyer gets decent seats. He was not bragging, he just admitted to sepnding a fortune on tickets to see his favourite band and wanted to let others know about this option.
Nothing wrong with that at all. I would be furious if i was told in writing i had 6th row tickets and now its going to be pulled...they need to honour this deal and just learn from thier major stuff up.
well thats my 2 cents worth anyway..good luck Sawyer with getting good seats, we know your heart was in the right place.
all the best
x
I stopped reading on page 17.....But am I right in thinking no contract has been signed between LN & Sawyer? And no money has actually changed hands yet?
Because if thats the case, surely he's not owed anything other than an apology from LN?????
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It sounds like botched communication by 10 Club and Livenation.....something that should not happen at a festival of this magnitude. I am completely in the dark how an oversight of this nature got by 10 Club. It is inexcusable and hope 'Green Disease' is not setting in here where 10 Club realized they were losing cash because people go VIP and shut it down. Oh well. Good luck tomorrow guys? My hats back in there Anyway, if one wants good tickets you can always get good tickets----$. I better go to church now and pray.
It sounds like botched communication by 10 Club and Livenation.....something that should not happen at a festival of this magnitude. I am completely in the dark how an oversight of this nature got by 10 Club. It is inexcusable and hope 'Green Disease' is not setting in here where 10 Club realized they were losing cash because people go VIP and shut it down. Oh well. Good luck tomorrow guys? My hats back in there Anyway, if one wants good tickets you can always get good tickets----$. I better go to church now and pray.
did you call a lawyer?
no...I don't think I have much to stand on....I may let Jon Yates of the Chicago Tribune know about it. This is his type of story:
Tenclub were just making sure others didn't get screwed by Live Nation by posting this.
This is clearly a Live Nation salesperson screw up. Selling tickets agreed to be secured by Tenclub. I'm guessing yor salesperson missed the memo or meeting on that one.
Good luck with tickets, and a refund if they cannot come through.
You should have dealt with the original saleperson before hitting up the CEO though, might have had more impact and a complaint trail to follow.
I hate to say it but Ticket companies, they sell tickets and that is what they do. Once sold they don't give a shit what happens. They have the money.
You'd better hope they sort out your issue before the sale goes public. Actually, if Tenclub's statement is correct, they should have contacted you in regard to this error by now right?
After yet another ticket on-sale debacle, I think Sawyer's claim that this is a mom and pop shop should be more and more clear to those who were disagreeing with that assessment earlier in this thread.
Great band. Great fans. Not-so-great operating of the 10C.
You guys (10c mgmt) did not make things more convenient, more affordable (think of all the lost GDP today) or provide any of your intended goals.
I hope you are volunteers and are not paid employees of the band. You should be ashamed and the real band (not 10c mgmt) should hold you accountable for not being the professionals they deserve as a world class act.
Leave the ticket sales to the pros.
You have become what the members of the band stood up against...a monopoly.
You interfered with the free market and failed miserably today. Younahould be ashamed and fired. I bet volunteers could do a better job (AGAIN) than whoever wad in charge.
Focus on your mission statement, if you even have one.
You guys (10c mgmt) did not make things more convenient, more affordable (think of all the lost GDP today) or provide any of your intended goals.
I hope you are volunteers and are not paid employees of the band. You should be ashamed and the real band (not 10c mgmt) should hold you accountable for not being the professionals they deserve as a world class act.
Leave the ticket sales to the pros.
You have become what the members of the band stood up against...a monopoly.
You interfered with the free market and failed miserably today. Younahould be ashamed and fired. I bet volunteers could do a better job (AGAIN) than whoever wad in charge.
Focus on your mission statement, if you even have one.
10c monopoly failure.
wow. just wow. I certainly hope 10C realizes that most of us do not feel this way.
You guys (10c mgmt) did not make things more convenient, more affordable (think of all the lost GDP today) or provide any of your intended goals.
I hope you are volunteers and are not paid employees of the band. You should be ashamed and the real band (not 10c mgmt) should hold you accountable for not being the professionals they deserve as a world class act.
Leave the ticket sales to the pros.
You have become what the members of the band stood up against...a monopoly.
You interfered with the free market and failed miserably today. Younahould be ashamed and fired. I bet volunteers could do a better job (AGAIN) than whoever wad in charge.
Focus on your mission statement, if you even have one.
10c monopoly failure.
Sounds like someone took a basic economics class, and felt the need to share what he learned!
You guys (10c mgmt) did not make things more convenient, more affordable (think of all the lost GDP today) or provide any of your intended goals.
I hope you are volunteers and are not paid employees of the band. You should be ashamed and the real band (not 10c mgmt) should hold you accountable for not being the professionals they deserve as a world class act.
Leave the ticket sales to the pros.
You have become what the members of the band stood up against...a monopoly.
You interfered with the free market and failed miserably today. Younahould be ashamed and fired. I bet volunteers could do a better job (AGAIN) than whoever wad in charge.
Focus on your mission statement, if you even have one.
10c monopoly failure.
Sounds like someone took a basic economics class, and felt the need to share what he learned!
What qualifies them as a monopoly?
Yeah, we need several 10 clubs selling tickets...this monopoly-thing is BS... :roll:
looks like they ended up leaving it to the "pros" in the end. Now Ticketmaster is handling the canadian fan club onsale. So, yeah, my "basic econ class" seems to be spot on.
and joejoe, i got mine all set. nothing basic about my education.
You guys (10c mgmt) did not make things more convenient, more affordable (think of all the lost GDP today) or provide any of your intended goals.
I hope you are volunteers and are not paid employees of the band. You should be ashamed and the real band (not 10c mgmt) should hold you accountable for not being the professionals they deserve as a world class act.
Leave the ticket sales to the pros.
You have become what the members of the band stood up against...a monopoly.
You interfered with the free market and failed miserably today. Younahould be ashamed and fired. I bet volunteers could do a better job (AGAIN) than whoever wad in charge.
Focus on your mission statement, if you even have one.
10c monopoly failure.
wow. just wow. I certainly hope 10C realizes that most of us do not feel this way.
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Yeah, we need several 10 clubs selling tickets...this monopoly-thing is BS... :roll:
THEY LISTENED
"In an effort to fix today's Canadian Tour Pre Sale Meltdown, Ten Club is partnering up with general public vendors Ticketmaster Canada and others in order to get the Fan Club designated tickets into the hands of our faithful members."
It's funny how so many of you hate on reality. i spit the truth and so many of you just follow the herd off the cliff
"In an effort to fix today's Canadian Tour Pre Sale Meltdown, Ten Club is partnering up with general public vendors Ticketmaster Canada and others in order to get the Fan Club designated tickets into the hands of our faithful members."
It's funny how so many of you hate on reality. i spit the truth and so many of you just follow the herd off the cliff
:roll: oh pls with the herd comments, like your rant is unique....you tell it like it is man, speak the TRUTH
The 10C fucked up. They probably got fucked by their IT consultants/business partners - bad advice/bad hire.... Maybe Tim asked Eddie for better servers and Eddie said servers aint rock n roll. Maybe Jeff said they cost too much. Maybe Kat spilled a coffee in the server room, or or or....you have no clue what's going on behind the scenes, nor who's to blame for what...so instead of throwing the most obvious figurehead(s) under the bus first, how about letting cooler heads prevail and seeing what can be done to fix this?....you know, like a community coming together, instead of a lynch mob. Some of us have a little empathy for people we've had business/personal relationships with for years. it's part of a business RELATIONSHIP to see past these....uh....little hiccups
[...so instead of throwing the most obvious figurehead(s) under the bus first, how about letting cooler heads prevail and seeing what can be done to fix this?....you know, like a community coming together, instead of a lynch mob.
how many years do you think this should go on?
A lynch mob is a community.
your case is dead, they got tickemaster doing fan club sales tomorrow.
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I'd be willing to bet there was. We are not even a company that deals in contracts and all our transmissions are auto tagged with a disclaimer that says this does not constitute a contract, so on and so forth. I'd be shocked if LN did not have this.
Regardless, that's still not a contract as various people pointed out. I couldn't care less if you got these tickets. I mean a dozen or so less tickets doesn't really change my equation of getting tickets very much.
Good luck.
The Sawyer discussion has been supplanted by another thread.
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coolness. where you staying?? pm me if you wanna.
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It sucks for Sawyer, but I don't think the 10c did anything wrong here. LN put 10c in a bad situation.
LN has been dealing with angry patrons for a long time, so I wish him luck in getting results.
I doubt Sawyer has anything to worry about in regards to getting a refund....LN aint going anywhere.
Nothing wrong with that at all. I would be furious if i was told in writing i had 6th row tickets and now its going to be pulled...they need to honour this deal and just learn from thier major stuff up.
well thats my 2 cents worth anyway..good luck Sawyer with getting good seats, we know your heart was in the right place.
all the best
x
Because if thats the case, surely he's not owed anything other than an apology from LN?????
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Hope everything works out for you sawyer
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did you call a lawyer?
no...I don't think I have much to stand on....I may let Jon Yates of the Chicago Tribune know about it. This is his type of story:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ ... 640.column
This is clearly a Live Nation salesperson screw up. Selling tickets agreed to be secured by Tenclub. I'm guessing yor salesperson missed the memo or meeting on that one.
Good luck with tickets, and a refund if they cannot come through.
You should have dealt with the original saleperson before hitting up the CEO though, might have had more impact and a complaint trail to follow.
I hate to say it but Ticket companies, they sell tickets and that is what they do. Once sold they don't give a shit what happens. They have the money.
You'd better hope they sort out your issue before the sale goes public. Actually, if Tenclub's statement is correct, they should have contacted you in regard to this error by now right?
Great band. Great fans. Not-so-great operating of the 10C.
I hope you are volunteers and are not paid employees of the band. You should be ashamed and the real band (not 10c mgmt) should hold you accountable for not being the professionals they deserve as a world class act.
Leave the ticket sales to the pros.
You have become what the members of the band stood up against...a monopoly.
You interfered with the free market and failed miserably today. Younahould be ashamed and fired. I bet volunteers could do a better job (AGAIN) than whoever wad in charge.
Focus on your mission statement, if you even have one.
10c monopoly failure.
Oh man, that is exactly what I thought too! This is the first time I am able to post..
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Was hoping you would see this.
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wow. just wow. I certainly hope 10C realizes that most of us do not feel this way.
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Sounds like someone took a basic economics class, and felt the need to share what he learned!
What qualifies them as a monopoly?
Yeah, we need several 10 clubs selling tickets...this monopoly-thing is BS... :roll:
and joejoe, i got mine all set. nothing basic about my education.
nothing, they can't even do that right. that's why i said failure. read the first post. see you on the flyt to the midwest. it's gonna be tyt.
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
"In an effort to fix today's Canadian Tour Pre Sale Meltdown, Ten Club is partnering up with general public vendors Ticketmaster Canada and others in order to get the Fan Club designated tickets into the hands of our faithful members."
It's funny how so many of you hate on reality. i spit the truth and so many of you just follow the herd off the cliff
The 10C fucked up. They probably got fucked by their IT consultants/business partners - bad advice/bad hire.... Maybe Tim asked Eddie for better servers and Eddie said servers aint rock n roll. Maybe Jeff said they cost too much. Maybe Kat spilled a coffee in the server room, or or or....you have no clue what's going on behind the scenes, nor who's to blame for what...so instead of throwing the most obvious figurehead(s) under the bus first, how about letting cooler heads prevail and seeing what can be done to fix this?....you know, like a community coming together, instead of a lynch mob. Some of us have a little empathy for people we've had business/personal relationships with for years. it's part of a business RELATIONSHIP to see past these....uh....little hiccups
how many years do you think this should go on?
A lynch mob is a community.
your case is dead, they got tickemaster doing fan club sales tomorrow.
A tyt flyt!
Air Tran?
Looking forward to it!