So I really want to understand the vinyl craze. I have have a vinyl record player (although its a very cheap one with not the best speakers) and i have some vinyls records that I play on it from time to time just for fun. But I don't understand what's so great about it. Maybe its my speakers or the player but I don't think it sounds that great. Someone help.
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everyone has music on cd's. vinyl is different. to hear you favorite band on an old fashioned format is better in my opinion. ok, so it's not the clearest and you have to turn a record over to hear the whole thing, but that's whats cool.besides, you can't beat the giant artwork inside. look, vinyl is like the poster craze (kinda). like posters, they only make a certain amount and then they're done forever. people who have these albums are a small percentage of the PJ community. Once you get into it, it's hard to stop. Trust me, I know.
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IMO there is a lot of Ed dick riding amongst the fans and if Ed says/does something others will follow suit.
that's my take on the vinyl
(not saying it's all of you)
to me music is where you WANT technology!! Binaural Flac through high quality speakers....WOW!!
Haha, Ed dick riding, that's funny. Yeah sometimes technology can really do wonders with music, but there are certain albums, in my opinion, like After the Gold Rush or Harvest, that have a raw, unproduced, true sound to it through a vinyl record. Like one of my friends says, it's warm, like a campfire
So I really want to understand the vinyl craze. I have have a vinyl record player (although its a very cheap one with not the best speakers) and i have some vinyls records that I play on it from time to time just for fun. But I don't understand what's so great about it. Maybe its my speakers or the player but I don't think it sounds that great. Someone help.
It depends on the album & who mastered it. Old music is usually better on vinyl because...
A) Current CD remastering trends are poor
and The original tapes have become damaged or missing
Pearl Jam, on the other hand, doesn't sound much different on vinyl than on CD. They are one of those bands who talks a big game about vinyl, but then they release vinyl that is mastered just as crappy as the CD version. Therefore, it's pointless.
I lived through vinyl... then, 8-tracks... cassettes... CDs.
Vinyl were prone to click and pops... and scratches and skips. They were also very touchy... no dancing too hard because one bump and your record was ruined. and... try playing a record in your car.
Cassettes had hisss and 8-tracks were just fucking annoying... except you could play them in your car.
CDs were great because no more clicks and pops or hissing or track changes. They sounded clear and clean. You need to spend a ton of cash to get the equipment required to get records and tapes to sound this clean. CDs allowed regular Joes to listen to clean music at regular Joe wages.
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Vinyl is more of a novelty, now. The sound is different... and I actually like the little clicks and pops that I spent most of my youth trying to eliminate.
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I also grew up on vinyl and then tapes... The vinyl I think it sounds great. I have some older records that almost have a feeling when I play them. I don't know what it is but I like them.
i dunnooo...i still think cd's sound better unless you have really high end audio gear and a great turntable, which most people do not. and these days most folks are lookin to get the newest and best quality gadgets. audiophiles are weird like that workin boths sides...you bastards
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I also grew up on vinyl and then tapes... The vinyl I think it sounds great. I have some older records that almost have a feeling when I play them. I don't know what it is but I like them.
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For me... it's the memories. The smell of the new record.. how clean and black and SCRATCH FREE it was when you first pulled it from it's sleeve.
The little **plop-thump** noise the needle makes when it contacts the spinning vinyl... it reminds me of being a kid and hearing that for the first time.
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For me... it's the memories. The smell of the new record.. how clean and black and SCRATCH FREE it was when you first pulled it from it's sleeve.
The little **plop-thump** noise the needle makes when it contacts the spinning vinyl... it reminds me of being a kid and hearing that for the first time.
Damn that's like an orgasm to my ears.....plp-thump...hisssssssssssss-do do do do do
Technology wise vinyl is still the best recording you can have.
No matter how you do it CD's are compressed from the original, vinyl is not.
You dont have to spend 1000's to have a nice set up either. You'd be surprised what you can find in pawn shops.
I still prefer vinyl. And if you follow some of the record message boards, it is making a decent comeback.
I have 40 year old records that sound better than today's so-called audiophile vinyl. They play clean with practically no pops or clicks. And if the album is in mono you can collapse the stereo channels which eliminates virtually all of the surface noise. I also have records from all different eras which play and sound like shit all the way through. The stereotype that records are inferior sounding, scratchy, and full of pops and clicks...is often not true, and CD's can be equally bad in their own way.
There are record companies out there who are exploiting the vinyl resurgance and making crappy sounding records from CD's and calling them audiophile pressings just because they're 200 grams or whatever. There are also labels doing everything just right. It all depends. You have to do research if you want the best sounding version of something.
The original Beatles LP's from England blow away the CD's. I can post MP3's to prove it. And that's because EMI vinyl was top of the line in the vinyl era. Then when the CD era came along they were bottom of the barrel, and they did a half-ass job. To this day those crappy CD's from the 80's are all that's available.
This is only one example, and it's the most popular group of all time!
I lived through vinyl... then, 8-tracks... cassettes... CDs.
Vinyl were prone to click and pops... and scratches and skips. They were also very touchy... no dancing too hard because one bump and your record was ruined. and... try playing a record in your car.
Cassettes had hisss and 8-tracks were just fucking annoying... except you could play them in your car.
CDs were great because no more clicks and pops or hissing or track changes. They sounded clear and clean. You need to spend a ton of cash to get the equipment required to get records and tapes to sound this clean. CDs allowed regular Joes to listen to clean music at regular Joe wages.
...
Vinyl is more of a novelty, now. The sound is different... and I actually like the little clicks and pops that I spent most of my youth trying to eliminate.
I'm from the same era. There really is no comparison to listening to a lp on headphones. I gave away all of our old lps and I'm sorry now. You just can't get the depth, is the only way to describe it. A cd is clearer but you don't get the feeling, if that makes any sense at all.
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The original Beatles LP's from England blow away the CD's. I can post MP3's to prove it.
How do you prove a record is better than a CD with mp3 files (crappiest format of all)?
Records do sound better on a good system. I hear things on records that I don't hear on the CD recordings. As someone said earlier you don't have to spend $1,000s for something decent. It's worth the investment. More records are being made now than many realize, but finding older releases can sometimes be a challenge.
Technology wise vinyl is still the best recording you can have.
No matter how you do it CD's are compressed from the original, vinyl is not.
You dont have to spend 1000's to have a nice set up either. You'd be surprised what you can find in pawn shops.
I still prefer vinyl. And if you follow some of the record message boards, it is making a decent comeback.
Hmm....'technologically' speaking, if vinyl was the best the. We wouldn't have had the advent of cd, mini disk or any kind if digital audio. Oh yeah, and I'm sure any audiophile would find that anything available at a pawn shop would suffice their needs. So do you still have an 8 track player in your car too? I love that rewind feature they finally invented.
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I like listening to my P vinlys. the sound is warmer; the cover is huge.
and when I listen to a vinyl, I only do listen to music, without doing anything else at the same time. it's just a moment for myself and music. like a ritual.
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and when I listen to a vinyl, I only do listen to music, without doing anything else at the same time. it's just a moment for myself and music. like a ritual.
Amen to that my friend. My vinyl's always make me stop and really listen. I actually have a little ritual i start when i throw one on but i won't get into that. I'm just a little fed up with the new record collecting fad that's come about recently. It's making it a lot more difficult and expensive for me to add to my collection since the record store by my house only gets at most five copies for any new album and by the time you get to ebay the prices are ridiculous and i have already had three broken in the mail. Studios are really jumpin on this too, go to any record store site and most of the albums coming out are just rereleases on vinyl. Coldplay just up and decided to release their whole catalog not long ago knowing that all those wannabe hipster poser fans of theirs would buy it. i'll stop now before this gets longer
ps I am loving that fact most artists are using 180g
Hmm....'technologically' speaking, if vinyl was the best the. We wouldn't have had the advent of cd, mini disk or any kind if digital audio. Oh yeah, and I'm sure any audiophile would find that anything available at a pawn shop would suffice their needs. So do you still have an 8 track player in your car too? I love that rewind feature they finally invented.
Other formats were touted as sounding better, although they did not. They are just more convenient. It wouldn't be practical to have an in dash record player (though they have been made), but 8-tracks, cassettes and CDs are good for this purpose.
So I really want to understand the vinyl craze. I have have a vinyl record player (although its a very cheap one with not the best speakers) and i have some vinyls records that I play on it from time to time just for fun. But I don't understand what's so great about it. Maybe its my speakers or the player but I don't think it sounds that great. Someone help.
Vinyl is the absolute closest representation of the real thing. CD's do sound great but there is compression. Anytime you do any type of compression you lose fidelity. Of course, at the convenience level, you can't beat CD's. If you can, compare your vinyl to your CD of the same album side by side. See what you think. I have a '74 Dual record player, an early 80's Toshiba Rx'r and some newer Polk bookshelf speakers. I can tell you that the studio version of Immortality sounds amazing along with the rest of the album of course. All their albums sound great on vinyl. I also have some Coltrane, Springsteen, Rush, some of John Willliam's soundtracks i.e. Star Wars, Jaws, E.T., Tool, old Metallica, Fiona Apple, Rage Ag The Machine. I'm just naming off the top of my head. But yeah, vinyl is awesome.
People already mentioned the "warmth" of the vinyl sound. I totally agree with this. To me, the vinyl copies of these albums just have this sound that, if you close your eyes, you can almost imagine being in the studio with the boys. I can put on a record - especially No Code, Binaural, or Riot Act - and sit on the couch and just bliss out to it. Well, at least till I have to flip the record over...
And the crackle and hiss of the vinyl are pretty f'n sweet, too!
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that's my take on the vinyl
(not saying it's all of you)
to me music is where you WANT technology!! Binaural Flac through high quality speakers....WOW!!
Haha, Ed dick riding, that's funny. Yeah sometimes technology can really do wonders with music, but there are certain albums, in my opinion, like After the Gold Rush or Harvest, that have a raw, unproduced, true sound to it through a vinyl record. Like one of my friends says, it's warm, like a campfire
And I can read the liner notes.
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It depends on the album & who mastered it. Old music is usually better on vinyl because...
A) Current CD remastering trends are poor
and
Pearl Jam, on the other hand, doesn't sound much different on vinyl than on CD. They are one of those bands who talks a big game about vinyl, but then they release vinyl that is mastered just as crappy as the CD version. Therefore, it's pointless.
Vinyl were prone to click and pops... and scratches and skips. They were also very touchy... no dancing too hard because one bump and your record was ruined. and... try playing a record in your car.
Cassettes had hisss and 8-tracks were just fucking annoying... except you could play them in your car.
CDs were great because no more clicks and pops or hissing or track changes. They sounded clear and clean. You need to spend a ton of cash to get the equipment required to get records and tapes to sound this clean. CDs allowed regular Joes to listen to clean music at regular Joe wages.
...
Vinyl is more of a novelty, now. The sound is different... and I actually like the little clicks and pops that I spent most of my youth trying to eliminate.
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For me... it's the memories. The smell of the new record.. how clean and black and SCRATCH FREE it was when you first pulled it from it's sleeve.
The little **plop-thump** noise the needle makes when it contacts the spinning vinyl... it reminds me of being a kid and hearing that for the first time.
Hail, Hail!!!
Damn that's like an orgasm to my ears.....plp-thump...hisssssssssssss-do do do do do
No matter how you do it CD's are compressed from the original, vinyl is not.
You dont have to spend 1000's to have a nice set up either. You'd be surprised what you can find in pawn shops.
I still prefer vinyl. And if you follow some of the record message boards, it is making a decent comeback.
There are record companies out there who are exploiting the vinyl resurgance and making crappy sounding records from CD's and calling them audiophile pressings just because they're 200 grams or whatever. There are also labels doing everything just right. It all depends. You have to do research if you want the best sounding version of something.
This is only one example, and it's the most popular group of all time!
How do you prove a record is better than a CD with mp3 files (crappiest format of all)?
Records do sound better on a good system. I hear things on records that I don't hear on the CD recordings. As someone said earlier you don't have to spend $1,000s for something decent. It's worth the investment. More records are being made now than many realize, but finding older releases can sometimes be a challenge.
Hmm....'technologically' speaking, if vinyl was the best the. We wouldn't have had the advent of cd, mini disk or any kind if digital audio. Oh yeah, and I'm sure any audiophile would find that anything available at a pawn shop would suffice their needs. So do you still have an 8 track player in your car too? I love that rewind feature they finally invented.
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Also they are kind of like mini posters where you see the artwork, not like small cd inserts.
and when I listen to a vinyl, I only do listen to music, without doing anything else at the same time. it's just a moment for myself and music. like a ritual.
2007: Copenhagen, Werchter
2009: Rotterdam, London
2010: MSG, Arras, Werchter
2012: Amsterdam, Prague, Berlin
2014: Amsterdam, Stockholm
it was a metaphor you dirty,dirty girl! (i certainly hope you are female!!
ps I am loving that fact most artists are using 180g
Other formats were touted as sounding better, although they did not. They are just more convenient. It wouldn't be practical to have an in dash record player (though they have been made), but 8-tracks, cassettes and CDs are good for this purpose.
see "spin the black circle" for reasons...
And the crackle and hiss of the vinyl are pretty f'n sweet, too!