I have never gone to a PJ show and not felt like i was part of the Pearl Fam.....we bitch and moan and complain and bicker on here....but at the shows people are too fucking happy to bitch or moan or argue.
this is very, very true. And you definitely need to go to one. Sometimes its easy to subconsciously internalize some negative vibes from this site and lash out unnecessarily, but it doesn't at all compare to the vibe at a show--it's totally different. Thankfully.
I don't want to contribute to the bickering, but I've gotta say that anyone on the East coast who is complaining about Alpine because of distance or inconvenience needs a lil perspective (a nice way of saying you need to STFU). If you have other problems with the venue, fine....but if you're complaining about it being expensive or a pain to get there, I have absolutely ZERO sympathy for you. It's not that far, and you guys get spoiled every tour, by every band...
I hate the thought of flying to a camping festival...just doesnt' really work at all....and even with access to an RV, it's a 2500 km drive for me....crossing a border also means no party favors... But that's all logistics. I'll make it happen. It ain't rocket appliances.
still totally fuckin down!
That said....I'd prefer the show to be pretty much anywhere else
oh....and....you guys complaining about the camping rules....do they usually allow campfires at the festivals you attend? I've never been to a multi-day festival in a campground that allowed fires...
i give up. you're all right, i'm an irresponsible drain on society with no sense of how to prioritize my life. i just give up
and no, i dont' know how to fund my MS yet. or where i'm going. or what state or country i'm getting it in yet. because i know nothing about life.
Honestly.. I'd agree with what someone else here said. If you use your pell grant for something other than your education, it's probably done all of the time to varying degrees, but if you are doing it, the best thing you could do is just keep quiet about it, as to taxpayers I could see it feel like being cheated.
maybe. but they act like i use the checks as rolling papers.
If this person has left over loans or grants after paying the rest of the semester what's wrong with using it for personal use? Almost EVERYONE does this. Now, if they weren't really going to school and pocketing the money I can see the problem. At least this person will be stimulating the economy buy purchasing airfare / food / hotels etc...
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i realize people use money from pell grants and other grants to buy beer and clothes etc. but to flaunt that you are going to use it (1K at least to go from NY to alpine) for a concert burns me.
it's the old saying, when you start paying, you'll start caring.
i'm going back to my shed
You can't expect college students not to accept a lot of unneeded money. In South Dakota, its about 10 grand a year to go to college. For some reason, the feds offered me about 16K a year in loans and grants and stuff. I didnt take it all but i did take extra and, I have to admit, i used a ton of it on PJ merch and concerts. Don't hate on the students though, hate on the big brother politicians.
The entire student loan, higher education system is fixed to, basically, create slaves out of all of us.
RC, SoDak 1998 - KC 2000 - Council Bluffs IA 2003 - Fargo ND 2003 - St. Paul MN 2003 - Alpine Valley 2003 - St Louis MO 2004 - Kissimmee FLA 2004 - Winnipeg 2005 - Thunder Bay 2005 - Chicago 2006 - Grand Rapids MI 2006 - Denver CO 2006 - Lollapalooza 2007 - Bonnaroo 2008 - Austin City Limits 2009 - Los Angeles 2009 - KC 2010 - St Louis MO 2010 - PJ20 Night 1 - PJ20 Night 2
If this person has left over loans or grants after paying the rest of the semester what's wrong with using it for personal use? Almost EVERYONE does this. Now, if they weren't really going to school and pocketing the money I can see the problem. At least this person will be stimulating the economy buy purchasing airfare / food / hotels etc...
loans are one thing...since the borrower has to pay them back. grants are anouther. if they don't need the money for school, they shouldn't take it. grants are designed to help the less fortunate better themselves. if you have enough left over to fund a concert weekend, than imo, you shouldn't have recieved the grant in the first place.
as for stimulating the economy, feel free to put my tax dollars back in my pocketbook. i'd be happy to spend my money on goods and services.
I think we are all just annoyed that we have to wait till tomorrow for the announcement...
I think you're right.
tomorrows announcment is about the ED cd presale, not the PJ20 Fest
RC, SoDak 1998 - KC 2000 - Council Bluffs IA 2003 - Fargo ND 2003 - St. Paul MN 2003 - Alpine Valley 2003 - St Louis MO 2004 - Kissimmee FLA 2004 - Winnipeg 2005 - Thunder Bay 2005 - Chicago 2006 - Grand Rapids MI 2006 - Denver CO 2006 - Lollapalooza 2007 - Bonnaroo 2008 - Austin City Limits 2009 - Los Angeles 2009 - KC 2010 - St Louis MO 2010 - PJ20 Night 1 - PJ20 Night 2
i lied, i'm using the money i saved from when i used to work.
feel better? (yes i do have some money from when i used to work)
i wasn't trying to flaunt anything.
and so everyone can just shut up already about my business and the whole business of paying for things with money that isn't yours, i usually pay college first then do nothing. i don't go out, i live with my mom (YES I'M A FREE LOADER GET OVER IT) i don't buy clothes since i've been wearing the same clothes i've had since i was 14, and i'll buy a new pair of shoes when my toe literally fits through the hole in the front. i dont drink (don't much care for it) i don't go out with friends because they live far away, and i stay at home every single day. the reason i even have the pell grants (if you all must know) is because my parents got separated and i only just qualified for the pell grants this year, my last year, because without my father my mom doesn't make a lot of money. and i go to state school so i don't have to pay much.
if there's an opportunity where my life is happy for a weekend you're damn straight i'm going to make it happen.
If this person has left over loans or grants after paying the rest of the semester what's wrong with using it for personal use? Almost EVERYONE does this. Now, if they weren't really going to school and pocketing the money I can see the problem. At least this person will be stimulating the economy buy purchasing airfare / food / hotels etc...
loans are one thing...since the borrower has to pay them back. grants are anouther. if they don't need the money for school, they shouldn't take it. grants are designed to help the less fortunate better themselves. if you have enough left over to fund a concert weekend, than imo, you shouldn't have recieved the grant in the first place.
as for stimulating the economy, feel free to put my tax dollars back in my pocketbook. i'd be happy to spend my money on goods and services.
I think we are all just annoyed that we have to wait till tomorrow for the announcement...
I think you're right.
tomorrows announcment is about the ED cd presale, not the PJ20 Fest
. I'm not expecting PJ 20 tomorrow, just been doing some crazy rain dance thing in the hopes that Mpls will get a EV solo date. Now I gotta do that fucking dance all night again!!
I don't want to contribute to the bickering, but I've gotta say that anyone on the East coast who is complaining about Alpine because of distance or inconvenience needs a lil perspective (a nice way of saying you need to STFU). If you have other problems with the venue, fine....but if you're complaining about it being expensive or a pain to get there, I have absolutely ZERO sympathy for you. It's not that far, and you guys get spoiled every tour, by every band...
I hate the thought of flying to a camping festival...just doesnt' really work at all....and even with access to an RV, it's a 2500 km drive for me....crossing a border also means no party favors... But that's all logistics. I'll make it happen. It ain't rocket appliances.
still totally fuckin down!
That said....I'd prefer the show to be pretty much anywhere else
oh....and....you guys complaining about the camping rules....do they usually allow campfires at the festivals you attend? I've never been to a multi-day festival in a campground that allowed fires...
I endorse this quote! I found a site saying that Alpine Valley is an independent venue which leads me to believe that PJ would do it there, pure speculation of course. My only concern is capacity. I don't know, 36,000 seems low ball for something like this, no?
Anyway I'm in Jersey (near the GW Bridge) and did a quick mapquest, and its a 14-15 hour drive. Nothing wrong with a little end of summer road trip to see the best fucking band ever! LET"S FUCKING DO THIS!!!!
I think we are all just annoyed that we have to wait till tomorrow for the announcement...
I think you're right.
Announcement delay....Box Set delay....Deep Magazine delay....PJ 20 Limbo....
I need some Tres Mts. on Sat to make me sane...
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Now that you mention Tres Mts, I'm pissed. They aren't coming anywhere close to me and I have to find some way to spend a ton of dough just to get to that fuckin east coast. $ for flight, $ for rental car, $ for baby sitter....it never ends!!! Damn East Coast!!!
i realize people use money from pell grants and other grants to buy beer and clothes etc. but to flaunt that you are going to use it (1K at least to go from NY to alpine) for a concert burns me.
it's the old saying, when you start paying, you'll start caring.
i'm going back to my shed
And stay in there, or I'm going to get Mr. Lahey to kick you out of Sunnyvail!!
Houston, Texas... Believe it or not, there are 7 million people here... must be a couple of fans who'd love to see you play.
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loans are one thing...since the borrower has to pay them back. grants are anouther. if they don't need the money for school, they shouldn't take it. grants are designed to help the less fortunate better themselves. if you have enough left over to fund a concert weekend, than imo, you shouldn't have recieved the grant in the first place.
as for stimulating the economy, feel free to put my tax dollars back in my pocketbook. i'd be happy to spend my money on goods and services.
Bubbles dude...let it go..go take care of your kitties, they are shitting all over the park and Lahey is on the war path....WATCH OUT FOR SHIT HAWKS BUBBS!!!!!!!
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Julian, what's a shit hawk? Is it some kind of shitty bird that swoops down and puts poop on you?
If this person has left over loans or grants after paying the rest of the semester what's wrong with using it for personal use? Almost EVERYONE does this. Now, if they weren't really going to school and pocketing the money I can see the problem. At least this person will be stimulating the economy buy purchasing airfare / food / hotels etc...
loans are one thing...since the borrower has to pay them back. grants are anouther. if they don't need the money for school, they shouldn't take it. grants are designed to help the less fortunate better themselves. if you have enough left over to fund a concert weekend, than imo, you shouldn't have recieved the grant in the first place.
as for stimulating the economy, feel free to put my tax dollars back in my pocketbook. i'd be happy to spend my money on goods and services.
I get 1,000+ back every semester and I don't give one fuck about how I spend it. We should probably be asking ourselves why college is so damn expensive to begin with, or how many students would actually be able to attend without receiving financial aid. Sorry, but I can't help not wanting to give back to the system that sets the prices so high to begin with -- and I say that assuming all of us pay taxes. I'm not trying to get shitty or anything, though. Nothin' but love here. And excitement for this damn concert, eh!
loans are one thing...since the borrower has to pay them back. grants are anouther. if they don't need the money for school, they shouldn't take it. grants are designed to help the less fortunate better themselves. if you have enough left over to fund a concert weekend, than imo, you shouldn't have recieved the grant in the first place.
as for stimulating the economy, feel free to put my tax dollars back in my pocketbook. i'd be happy to spend my money on goods and services.
Bubbles dude...let it go..go take care of your kitties, they are shitting all over the park and Lahey is on the war path....WATCH OUT FOR SHIT HAWKS BUBBS!!!!!!!
but he needs the money to take care of the kitties...
Just like how you need the money to support those kids you had... wait a second... J-ROC, what happened to those kids ???!!!???
Houston, Texas... Believe it or not, there are 7 million people here... must be a couple of fans who'd love to see you play.
loans are one thing...since the borrower has to pay them back. grants are anouther. if they don't need the money for school, they shouldn't take it. grants are designed to help the less fortunate better themselves. if you have enough left over to fund a concert weekend, than imo, you shouldn't have recieved the grant in the first place.
as for stimulating the economy, feel free to put my tax dollars back in my pocketbook. i'd be happy to spend my money on goods and services.
my mom had 18 cents in the bank last month. and i always said i wasn't using all of it. some of it. i still have money in my bank from when i worked (which i already said). and combined i might be able to pay for pj20. or not. we'll see how much everything actually is. but thanks for making me feel like a complete asshole.
loans are one thing...since the borrower has to pay them back. grants are anouther. if they don't need the money for school, they shouldn't take it. grants are designed to help the less fortunate better themselves. if you have enough left over to fund a concert weekend, than imo, you shouldn't have recieved the grant in the first place.
as for stimulating the economy, feel free to put my tax dollars back in my pocketbook. i'd be happy to spend my money on goods and services.
my mom had 18 cents in the bank last month. and i always said i wasn't using all of it. some of it. i still have money in my bank from when i worked (which i already said). and combined i might be able to pay for pj20. or not. we'll see how much everything actually is. but thanks for making me feel like a complete asshole.
Are you going to Tres Mts. on Sat? I would love to continue this conversation in person.......
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loans are one thing...since the borrower has to pay them back. grants are anouther. if they don't need the money for school, they shouldn't take it. grants are designed to help the less fortunate better themselves. if you have enough left over to fund a concert weekend, than imo, you shouldn't have recieved the grant in the first place.
as for stimulating the economy, feel free to put my tax dollars back in my pocketbook. i'd be happy to spend my money on goods and services.
my mom had 18 cents in the bank last month. and i always said i wasn't using all of it. some of it. i still have money in my bank from when i worked (which i already said). and combined i might be able to pay for pj20. or not. we'll see how much everything actually is. but thanks for making me feel like a complete asshole.
Are you going to Tres Mts. on Sat? I would love to continue this conversation in person.......
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lmao! actually yes, and i bought the ticket with my own money and everything! =D
i realize people use money from pell grants and other grants to buy beer and clothes etc. but to flaunt that you are going to use it (1K at least to go from NY to alpine) for a concert burns me.
it's the old saying, when you start paying, you'll start caring.
i'm going back to my shed
You can't expect college students not to accept a lot of unneeded money. In South Dakota, its about 10 grand a year to go to college. For some reason, the feds offered me about 16K a year in loans and grants and stuff. I didnt take it all but i did take extra and, I have to admit, i used a ton of it on PJ merch and concerts. Don't hate on the students though, hate on the big brother politicians.
The entire student loan, higher education system is fixed to, basically, create slaves out of all of us.
I did the same thing.. How do you think I got to Bridge School last year???
i realize people use money from pell grants and other grants to buy beer and clothes etc. but to flaunt that you are going to use it (1K at least to go from NY to alpine) for a concert burns me.
it's the old saying, when you start paying, you'll start caring.
i'm going back to my shed
You can't expect college students not to accept a lot of unneeded money. In South Dakota, its about 10 grand a year to go to college. For some reason, the feds offered me about 16K a year in loans and grants and stuff. I didnt take it all but i did take extra and, I have to admit, i used a ton of it on PJ merch and concerts. Don't hate on the students though, hate on the big brother politicians.
The entire student loan, higher education system is fixed to, basically, create slaves out of all of us.
I did the same thing.. How do you think I got to Bridge School last year???
so glad there are others out there like me =D sometimes you gotta just do something for the fuck of it, you only live once and if you're happy then good on ya, some people don't make it out of here having been happy
loans are one thing...since the borrower has to pay them back. grants are anouther. if they don't need the money for school, they shouldn't take it. grants are designed to help the less fortunate better themselves. if you have enough left over to fund a concert weekend, than imo, you shouldn't have recieved the grant in the first place.
as for stimulating the economy, feel free to put my tax dollars back in my pocketbook. i'd be happy to spend my money on goods and services.
my mom had 18 cents in the bank last month. and i always said i wasn't using all of it. some of it. i still have money in my bank from when i worked (which i already said). and combined i might be able to pay for pj20. or not. we'll see how much everything actually is. but thanks for making me feel like a complete asshole.
If your poor mom has 18 cents in the bank then skip Tres Mts, skip PJ20, and help the woman out. Are you for real?
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I hate the thought of flying to a camping festival...just doesnt' really work at all....and even with access to an RV, it's a 2500 km drive for me....crossing a border also means no party favors... But that's all logistics. I'll make it happen. It ain't rocket appliances.
still totally fuckin down!
That said....I'd prefer the show to be pretty much anywhere else
oh....and....you guys complaining about the camping rules....do they usually allow campfires at the festivals you attend? I've never been to a multi-day festival in a campground that allowed fires...
How about that education/law seminar held just down the street that same weekend? Maybe you should put in the requisitions now.
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If this person has left over loans or grants after paying the rest of the semester what's wrong with using it for personal use? Almost EVERYONE does this. Now, if they weren't really going to school and pocketing the money I can see the problem. At least this person will be stimulating the economy buy purchasing airfare / food / hotels etc...
hahaha!...it's almost like being sexualy frustrated! we are all grumpy till we get our rocks off (via tweet)
You can't expect college students not to accept a lot of unneeded money. In South Dakota, its about 10 grand a year to go to college. For some reason, the feds offered me about 16K a year in loans and grants and stuff. I didnt take it all but i did take extra and, I have to admit, i used a ton of it on PJ merch and concerts. Don't hate on the students though, hate on the big brother politicians.
The entire student loan, higher education system is fixed to, basically, create slaves out of all of us.
I think you're right.
loans are one thing...since the borrower has to pay them back. grants are anouther. if they don't need the money for school, they shouldn't take it. grants are designed to help the less fortunate better themselves. if you have enough left over to fund a concert weekend, than imo, you shouldn't have recieved the grant in the first place.
as for stimulating the economy, feel free to put my tax dollars back in my pocketbook. i'd be happy to spend my money on goods and services.
tomorrows announcment is about the ED cd presale, not the PJ20 Fest
I need some Tres Mts. on Sat to make me sane...
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feel better? (yes i do have some money from when i used to work)
i wasn't trying to flaunt anything.
and so everyone can just shut up already about my business and the whole business of paying for things with money that isn't yours, i usually pay college first then do nothing. i don't go out, i live with my mom (YES I'M A FREE LOADER GET OVER IT) i don't buy clothes since i've been wearing the same clothes i've had since i was 14, and i'll buy a new pair of shoes when my toe literally fits through the hole in the front. i dont drink (don't much care for it) i don't go out with friends because they live far away, and i stay at home every single day. the reason i even have the pell grants (if you all must know) is because my parents got separated and i only just qualified for the pell grants this year, my last year, because without my father my mom doesn't make a lot of money. and i go to state school so i don't have to pay much.
if there's an opportunity where my life is happy for a weekend you're damn straight i'm going to make it happen.
eV: 8/4/08, 8/5/08, 6/21/11
SG: 10/4/08<-- MET STONE!!!
I endorse this quote! I found a site saying that Alpine Valley is an independent venue which leads me to believe that PJ would do it there, pure speculation of course. My only concern is capacity. I don't know, 36,000 seems low ball for something like this, no?
Anyway I'm in Jersey (near the GW Bridge) and did a quick mapquest, and its a 14-15 hour drive. Nothing wrong with a little end of summer road trip to see the best fucking band ever! LET"S FUCKING DO THIS!!!!
Now that you mention Tres Mts, I'm pissed. They aren't coming anywhere close to me and I have to find some way to spend a ton of dough just to get to that fuckin east coast. $ for flight, $ for rental car, $ for baby sitter....it never ends!!! Damn East Coast!!!
And stay in there, or I'm going to get Mr. Lahey to kick you out of Sunnyvail!!
Bubbles dude...let it go..go take care of your kitties, they are shitting all over the park and Lahey is on the war path....WATCH OUT FOR SHIT HAWKS BUBBS!!!!!!!
I get 1,000+ back every semester and I don't give one fuck about how I spend it. We should probably be asking ourselves why college is so damn expensive to begin with, or how many students would actually be able to attend without receiving financial aid. Sorry, but I can't help not wanting to give back to the system that sets the prices so high to begin with -- and I say that assuming all of us pay taxes. I'm not trying to get shitty or anything, though. Nothin' but love here. And excitement for this damn concert, eh!
but he needs the money to take care of the kitties...
Just like how you need the money to support those kids you had... wait a second... J-ROC, what happened to those kids ???!!!???
my mom had 18 cents in the bank last month. and i always said i wasn't using all of it. some of it. i still have money in my bank from when i worked (which i already said). and combined i might be able to pay for pj20. or not. we'll see how much everything actually is. but thanks for making me feel like a complete asshole.
eV: 8/4/08, 8/5/08, 6/21/11
SG: 10/4/08<-- MET STONE!!!
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eV: 8/4/08, 8/5/08, 6/21/11
SG: 10/4/08<-- MET STONE!!!
I did the same thing.. How do you think I got to Bridge School last year???
eV: 8/4/08, 8/5/08, 6/21/11
SG: 10/4/08<-- MET STONE!!!
If your poor mom has 18 cents in the bank then skip Tres Mts, skip PJ20, and help the woman out. Are you for real?
"...I changed by not changing at all..."