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  • Hugo Reyes wrote:
    $78 is the price a night out in any city in America would run you (not including dinner). And chances are if you are on this board you'll never forget that night for the rest of your life. So, please...cry me a river. It really isn't even worth debating.
    Agreed :)
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  • PatrickBatemanPatrickBateman Posts: 2,243
    i promise i did a search, but just saw this page with new Ed solo tourdates:

    http://thrillcall.com/artist/eddie_vedd ... _tweetroot


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  • drsluggodrsluggo Posts: 4,742
    In reality if any of you went to work today and your boss said to you, you can make $200 or you can make $50 to do the exact same amount of work I bet 100% of you would say 'OK, I want to make $200'. Honestly when you factor in where that money comes from, does the equation change all that much?
    Well that's why I can't really argue with the prices, even if I think the band has changed philosophically over the years. Before they seemed to want to avoid charging as much as they could, where not they seem to relish marketing themselves and selling merch, etc. I dont think thats a bad thing, but I do think its a change.

    One caveat to your example is this: If you go to work and your manager says 'hey, you can make $200 instead of $100, but that extra $100 is coming straight from the people who have supported you throughout your career' it makes it a little different. Its not like you're working for a corporation where the money is coming from the profit they make regardless -- its from you and me and other fans who have spent 20 years supporting these guys.

    Again, I've come to terms with prices and am not mad about it, but I still hate the 'if you disagree with it then quit the TC and don't go' stuff. Its a legitimate discussion, whatever side you're on.
  • EquallyWorthlessEquallyWorthless Posts: 3,993
    edited March 2011
    drsluggo wrote:
    In reality if any of you went to work today and your boss said to you, you can make $200 or you can make $50 to do the exact same amount of work I bet 100% of you would say 'OK, I want to make $200'. Honestly when you factor in where that money comes from, does the equation change all that much?
    Well that's why I can't really argue with the prices, even if I think the band has changed philosophically over the years. Before they seemed to want to avoid charging as much as they could, where not they seem to relish marketing themselves and selling merch, etc. I dont think thats a bad thing, but I do think its a change.

    One caveat to your example is this: If you go to work and your manager says 'hey, you can make $200 instead of $100, but that extra $100 is coming straight from the people who have supported you throughout your career' it makes it a little different. Its not like you're working for a corporation where the money is coming from the profit they make regardless -- its from you and me and other fans who have spent 20 years supporting these guys.

    Again, I've come to terms with prices and am not mad about it, but I still hate the 'if you disagree with it then quit the TC and don't go' stuff. Its a legitimate discussion, whatever side you're on.

    Yeah and that caveat is why I had the line in my post at the end to consider where that money is coming from. However, if you think about it, we essentially are the 'profit' the 'corporation' is making. Sure they view us as real, legitimate entities they care about, but that doesn't change the fact that my purchase of a $200 box set or a $100 ticket puts food on the table for someone. When you think about it those terms it is very easy to see the philosophical change over the years.
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  • The bottom line is, if you are against the price of the tickets then just don't go. Gives everyone else who doesn't think the price is outrageous a better chance at obtaining tickets. Be thankful we have the opportunity and at a fair price. Also think to yourself well at least we aren't being charged hundreds of dollars for tickets like other musicians like lady gaga, Elton John, etc.

    It actually isn't the bottom line. Ultimatums rarely are. As pointed out, it is a legitimate discussion, especially for a band that made a point to keep prices down in the past. This is a forum where we discuss that band, and one of those discussions is the increase in ticket prices over the years. The bottom line should be, if you are not happy with people voicing their opinions on the matter then you just don't need to put in yours.
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  • Hope he plays the Center not the Terrace Theater in Bong Leach.... 800 capacity at the Center... 6000 at the Terrace (too damn big).
    Should be interesting given its coinciding with the Surfrider Foundation show. Perhaps some cool special guests will be on hand :D
  • StillHereStillHere Posts: 7,795
    drsluggo wrote:
    "Just because you can doesn't mean you should"
    Jeff Goldblum - Jurassic Park

    I don't doubt he is a very nice dude, and it's nice that he is open to meeting fans occasionally, but if he really wanted to be fan friendly he would be more reasonable in his ticket pricing.
    I think at the end of the day everyone realizes that this is not the same EV from the early 90s. I'm not saying that to be critical, but its just the way it is.

    In the 90s they were careful to keep ticket prices down and it probably meant they left a ton of cash on the table. Now they do not do that... they price to a point where they'll sell tickets well, but they are not leaving much on the table anymore.

    I'm not saying its right or wrong, but at some point that's what I've come to accept. I get annoyed with people who blame the increases on gas and whatnot because thats just trying to rationalize without any real basis/facts, but I guess over the last 8 years you can see they've changed their business models from merchandising to the ten club to concert tickets.

    I'm also not going to say if you don't like it quit the TC like many do... its a fair argument to wonder why he charges so much more than many full bands when its a solo show. I mean... he's raking in serious cash on these shows between tickets and merch.

    I guess at the end its an argument where both sides have valid points and there's no real endgame...just round and round and round it goes with arguing over why tickets are so expensive and what that says about the band.


    right off the bat all i want to say
    is ...
    is ANY OF US the same dude or chic we were in the early 90s?
    everybody grows
    everybody changes
    we like to keep our ideals
    but hey, we grow, we have families, things have to change
    we do what we can
    i think that ed's ticket prices are still very reasonable
    i checked into buying tix to see neil at the tower end april/begin may
    same venue as ed is playing
    and neil is getting $275 for ONE ticket
    so...hey...ed is not charging too much
    not at all
    i'd say quite reasonable for an artist of his caliber
    just sayin
    and hey, the guys all do good with their money, can't deny that
    peace,
    jo

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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,293
    The bottom line is, if you are against the price of the tickets then just don't go. Gives everyone else who doesn't think the price is outrageous a better chance at obtaining tickets. Be thankful we have the opportunity and at a fair price. Also think to yourself well at least we aren't being charged hundreds of dollars for tickets like other musicians like lady gaga, Elton John, etc.

    It actually isn't the bottom line. Ultimatums rarely are. As pointed out, it is a legitimate discussion, especially for a band that made a point to keep prices down in the past. This is a forum where we discuss that band, and one of those discussions is the increase in ticket prices over the years. The bottom line should be, if you are not happy with people voicing their opinions on the matter then you just don't need to put in yours.
    I'm 21, and seriously hope that in 25 years no one will tell me I should feel obligated to maintain the same set of morals and values that I hold today. I'm all in favour of open, respectful discussion, but I personally do not find merit anymore in saying that once upon a time, the band held a different set of morals, and thus should honour them. It's a reality of life that we all change as time goes by.
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  • benjs wrote:
    The bottom line is, if you are against the price of the tickets then just don't go. Gives everyone else who doesn't think the price is outrageous a better chance at obtaining tickets. Be thankful we have the opportunity and at a fair price. Also think to yourself well at least we aren't being charged hundreds of dollars for tickets like other musicians like lady gaga, Elton John, etc.

    It actually isn't the bottom line. Ultimatums rarely are. As pointed out, it is a legitimate discussion, especially for a band that made a point to keep prices down in the past. This is a forum where we discuss that band, and one of those discussions is the increase in ticket prices over the years. The bottom line should be, if you are not happy with people voicing their opinions on the matter then you just don't need to put in yours.
    I'm 21, and seriously hope that in 25 years no one will tell me I should feel obligated to maintain the same set of morals and values that I hold today. I'm all in favour of open, respectful discussion, but I personally do not find merit anymore in saying that once upon a time, the band held a different set of morals, and thus should honour them. It's a reality of life that we all change as time goes by.

    The ironic part of this is that I just checked my Massey Hall ticket from 2008 and it says 75.00 plus 12.50 service charge. I also believe that Eddie or one of the band members mentioned something about this in the "spin" magazine article when "Backspacer" first came out.
  • cbrunelle783cbrunelle783 Posts: 1,025
    The bottom line is, if you are against the price of the tickets then just don't go. Gives everyone else who doesn't think the price is outrageous a better chance at obtaining tickets. Be thankful we have the opportunity and at a fair price. Also think to yourself well at least we aren't being charged hundreds of dollars for tickets like other musicians like lady gaga, Elton John, etc.

    It actually isn't the bottom line. Ultimatums rarely are. As pointed out, it is a legitimate discussion, especially for a band that made a point to keep prices down in the past. This is a forum where we discuss that band, and one of those discussions is the increase in ticket prices over the years. The bottom line should be, if you are not happy with people voicing their opinions on the matter then you just don't need to put in yours.

    Tom Petty has done the same in recent years, it's b/c people aren't buying cds. I went to see The Heartbreakers in '08 and it was reasonably priced, like less than $70 a ticket may have been closer to $45-$50. I looked into getting tickets in 2010 and they were $300 or something ridiculous. Tom Petty spent most of the 80s fighting to keep his ticket and album prices down. They wanted their 1981 album to be priced $8.98 while the record company wanted to charge $9.98. The band won and got the price point they wanted after fans complained. From what I've read in Bill German's book "Under Their Thumb"(2009) the "vanity pricing" for ticket sales started during The Rolling Stone's 1989 Steel Wheels tour. Bill German wrote and distributed the Rolling Stone's fanzine from the time he was 17 until he was in his late 30's or something. Basically they found out that people were willing to shell out whatever the price was to hear their band play. The precedent was set and here we are 22 years later and it's no better.
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  • KatyzKatyz Posts: 838
    I still value much of what was important to me when I was in my 20's. I am, however, wiser and understand more about the realities of life. I have adapted my beliefs, not completely abolished them, although one or two were not worth keeping. (oh the innocence of youth!)

    Prices stink when you can't afford them, and seem reasonable given inflation when you can afford them. There is no right or wrong, just life.

    I hope everyone can get to see the music they love played live at a lovely venue...that is what it is all about. Reality is some won't...I could be one of them. I don't blame anyone for that, however.

    Here's to hoping we all have at least one great experience this year!
  • benjs wrote:
    The bottom line is, if you are against the price of the tickets then just don't go. Gives everyone else who doesn't think the price is outrageous a better chance at obtaining tickets. Be thankful we have the opportunity and at a fair price. Also think to yourself well at least we aren't being charged hundreds of dollars for tickets like other musicians like lady gaga, Elton John, etc.

    It actually isn't the bottom line. Ultimatums rarely are. As pointed out, it is a legitimate discussion, especially for a band that made a point to keep prices down in the past. This is a forum where we discuss that band, and one of those discussions is the increase in ticket prices over the years. The bottom line should be, if you are not happy with people voicing their opinions on the matter then you just don't need to put in yours.
    I'm 21, and seriously hope that in 25 years no one will tell me I should feel obligated to maintain the same set of morals and values that I hold today. I'm all in favour of open, respectful discussion, but I personally do not find merit anymore in saying that once upon a time, the band held a different set of morals, and thus should honour them. It's a reality of life that we all change as time goes by.

    Yeah, I hope I was didn't come across as saying that I think because they had them low in the past, they should be now, I was simply saying that fact presents a legitimate reason for discussion, and those people stating that argument can be validated.
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  • WildsWilds Posts: 4,329
    I find the prices high, but I'm not certain of the reason. That is why I take umbrage with people who complain and say it's all about greed. (although it might just be one person... ;) ). Some people really complain so much, it gets tiresome and every time I see someones avatar, I think 'here we go again'. :lol:

    There are so many factors that go into it, and although wanting to profit is certainly one of them, I don't think it is some evil 'fuck the fans' mentality.
  • hopethatuchokehopethatuchoke Posts: 2,927
    Great discussion going on up in here :thumbup: Some very valid points and of course the usual assanine "If you don't like it don't go" responses. One thing I will say....if it has anything to do with scalpers.....he could do what many artists are doing now and just go paperless. NIN did it, Thom Yorke did it last year for his solo tour. You have to swipe your credit card to get it. Granted a scalper could bring someone in with them but it's much more difficult.

    I totally see where the people supporting him are coming from and your points are well thought out and valid. I agree I am not the same person I was 20 years ago, few are. But at my core, I feel as though if I were to ever be rich and famous, I wouldn't ever make my fans struggle to afford to see me perform...especially with the economy and unemployment being the way it is. Mike and Jeff are out on the road to have fun playing music and Ed is out to make money. Which is fine....it's his life and his prerogative. I just wouldn't do it that way and I am discussing that because it's a discussion board. End of story :mrgreen:
  • hopethatuchokehopethatuchoke Posts: 2,927
    Wilds wrote:
    I find the prices high, but I'm not certain of the reason. That is why I take umbrage with people who complain and say it's all about greed. (although it might just be one person... ;) ). Some people really complain so much, it gets tiresome and every time I see someones avatar, I think 'here we go again'. :lol:

    There are so many factors that go into it, and although wanting to profit is certainly one of them, I don't think it is some evil 'fuck the fans' mentality.

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  • StillHereStillHere Posts: 7,795
    i read about a great idea on chris cornell's page
    he said that he was really disappointed at how people were shut out so quickly for tix to his shows
    his real fans, that is
    the ones that follow him on his website and facebook page etc.
    so, he went on to say that he would find ways
    by running certain contests etc during the interim between the sales
    and the show dates
    to be sure that some of those loyal fans
    would have access to the shows
    so i guess that means holding back some of the radio promo tix
    or whatever
    and allowing true fans that were shut out of presales/sales
    a chance to obtain the tix
    i have no idea how he finally went about it
    i haven't checked
    but i think that is a good idea
    something that ed might want to consider
    peace,
    jo

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  • drsluggodrsluggo Posts: 4,742
    Wilds wrote:
    There are so many factors that go into it, and although wanting to profit is certainly one of them, I don't think it is some evil 'fuck the fans' mentality.
    Yeah, I think this is why I don't get angry about tickets going up and whatnot. I mean, I get the feeling at this point the band kind of sustains themselves on being able to do short tours and make a lot of $$ in one stretch (hence the huge-reliance on the east and west coasts). While that sounds kind of bad, it keeps them touring... they can't do the tours they did in 2003 and older, so if they are doing shorter tours that cost a little more I'm OK with it because I'd rather that than nothing.

    I still think EV is making a ton of cash but I don't hold it against him... I would too. As many have pointed out he could EASILY tier the tickets and do like $150 for main floor, $100 for back floor, $75 for balcony and sell out just the same. Tres Mts. couldn't do that- - I have a feeling if they felt they could charge $30+ a ticket they would, but since they are just getting it going they are charging smaller amounts to create buzz and get people there.
  • Great discussion going on up in here :thumbup: Some very valid points and of course the usual assanine "If you don't like it don't go" responses. One thing I will say....if it has anything to do with scalpers.....he could do what many artists are doing now and just go paperless. NIN did it, Thom Yorke did it last year for his solo tour. You have to swipe your credit card to get it. Granted a scalper could bring someone in with them but it's much more difficult.

    I totally see where the people supporting him are coming from and your points are well thought out and valid. I agree I am not the same person I was 20 years ago, few are. But at my core, I feel as though if I were to ever be rich and famous, I wouldn't ever make my fans struggle to afford to see me perform...especially with the economy and unemployment being the way it is. Mike and Jeff are out on the road to have fun playing music and Ed is out to make money. Which is fine....it's his life and his prerogative. I just wouldn't do it that way and I am discussing that because it's a discussion board. End of story :mrgreen:

    Like I said earlier, my Massey Hall ticket cost me $75.00 canadian plus a $12.50 service charge and that was 2 years ago. If the rumor of a $78.00 price point is true then that is only a $3.00 increase. Also it comes down to priorities. If you are struggling financially or for employment, the last thing you should do is use your money for a concert, imo. I am not saying you are struggling, I am saying in general. This is where people run into problems. They don't know how to use their money responsibly. The tickets are still relatively reasonable when compared to most others these days. Paperless tickets wouldn't help as I feel that scalpers aren't the reason tickets are priced the way they are. Also Eddie isn't the person behind the cost of tickets either.
  • -decodified--decodified- mobile device Posts: 2,688
    was looking this website:

    http://thrillcall.com/artist/eddie_vedd ... _tweetroot

    and there is 2 San Francisco shows added to this list:

    July 11 & 12
    @ Masonic Center
    1111 California St San Francisco, CA 94108

    :o :shock: :o :shock:
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  • grjammergrjammer Posts: 385
    was looking this website:

    http://thrillcall.com/artist/eddie_vedd ... _tweetroot

    and there is 2 San Francisco shows added to this list:

    July 11 & 12
    @ Masonic Center
    1111 California St San Francisco, CA 94108

    :o :shock: :o :shock:

    Interesting! Hoping that a few midwest dates pop up as well. So far, everything is on the west or east coast.
  • clockistotimeclockistotime Los Angeles, CA Posts: 249
    it's nice to see my original post is still going strong. I was surprised, and tentative when I first came across that site, but now they're adding more dates so it looks to be holding true. didn't want to be the guy starting rumor threads :)
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  • PjWingsfanPjWingsfan Posts: 136
    Not to add feul to the fire here, but I was just listening to the radio here in Detroit, and they were rattling off a list of acts coming into town, and sure enough they said Eddie was coming to the Fox Theatre in Detroit.

    I am hoping what I heard wasn't wishful thinking on my behalf haha. Fingers crossed!
  • PjWingsfan wrote:
    Not to add feul to the fire here, but I was just listening to the radio here in Detroit, and they were rattling off a list of acts coming into town, and sure enough they said Eddie was coming to the Fox Theatre in Detroit.

    I am hoping what I heard wasn't wishful thinking on my behalf haha. Fingers crossed!

    glad I wasn't the only one thinking I heard things that I wanted to hear but weren't actually said...

    June 26th at the Fox Theater
  • EJE201EJE201 Mason, MI Posts: 321
    PjWingsfan wrote:
    Not to add feul to the fire here, but I was just listening to the radio here in Detroit, and they were rattling off a list of acts coming into town, and sure enough they said Eddie was coming to the Fox Theatre in Detroit.

    I am hoping what I heard wasn't wishful thinking on my behalf haha. Fingers crossed!
    PjWingsfan wrote:
    Not to add feul to the fire here, but I was just listening to the radio here in Detroit, and they were rattling off a list of acts coming into town, and sure enough they said Eddie was coming to the Fox Theatre in Detroit.

    I am hoping what I heard wasn't wishful thinking on my behalf haha. Fingers crossed!

    glad I wasn't the only one thinking I heard things that I wanted to hear but weren't actually said...

    June 26th at the Fox Theater

    Wow, Thanks for the heads up!! Lets hope the rumors are true. I have been hoping for a Fox Theater show since the first solo tour. That would be sweet!
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  • PjWingsfanPjWingsfan Posts: 136
    PjWingsfan wrote:
    Not to add feul to the fire here, but I was just listening to the radio here in Detroit, and they were rattling off a list of acts coming into town, and sure enough they said Eddie was coming to the Fox Theatre in Detroit.

    I am hoping what I heard wasn't wishful thinking on my behalf haha. Fingers crossed!

    glad I wasn't the only one thinking I heard things that I wanted to hear but weren't actually said...

    June 26th at the Fox Theater
    Ahhhh, I hope this is trueeeee!!! I cannot wait :D
  • grjammergrjammer Posts: 385
    PjWingsfan wrote:
    Not to add feul to the fire here, but I was just listening to the radio here in Detroit, and they were rattling off a list of acts coming into town, and sure enough they said Eddie was coming to the Fox Theatre in Detroit.

    I am hoping what I heard wasn't wishful thinking on my behalf haha. Fingers crossed!

    glad I wasn't the only one thinking I heard things that I wanted to hear but weren't actually said...

    June 26th at the Fox Theater


    Great news!
  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    Great discussion going on up in here :thumbup: Some very valid points and of course the usual assanine "If you don't like it don't go" responses. One thing I will say....if it has anything to do with scalpers.....he could do what many artists are doing now and just go paperless. NIN did it, Thom Yorke did it last year for his solo tour. You have to swipe your credit card to get it. Granted a scalper could bring someone in with them but it's much more difficult.

    I totally see where the people supporting him are coming from and your points are well thought out and valid. I agree I am not the same person I was 20 years ago, few are. But at my core, I feel as though if I were to ever be rich and famous, I wouldn't ever make my fans struggle to afford to see me perform...especially with the economy and unemployment being the way it is. Mike and Jeff are out on the road to have fun playing music and Ed is out to make money. Which is fine....it's his life and his prerogative. I just wouldn't do it that way and I am discussing that because it's a discussion board. End of story :mrgreen:

    There are a few different ways to look at this though. If he was able to keep his ticket prices at like 40-50 bucks, you'd have a much more difficult time getting tickets. many, many more folks would be fighting for them.

    I respect your opinion man, but I cant stand when people say shit like Mike and Jeff are doing it to have fun, and Ed is only out to make money. You have no idea why dude.
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  • BH198990BH198990 Posts: 174
    glad I wasn't the only one thinking I heard things that I wanted to hear but weren't actually said...

    June 26th at the Fox Theater
    :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

    Wouldn't have thought that would happen!! Holy crap!!!!

    cheers!!!
  • grjammergrjammer Posts: 385
    BH198990 wrote:
    glad I wasn't the only one thinking I heard things that I wanted to hear but weren't actually said...

    June 26th at the Fox Theater
    :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

    Wouldn't have thought that would happen!! Holy crap!!!!

    cheers!!!

    The capacity of the Fox Theatre is approx 5,000. This is large as far the ed solo shows are concerned. There should more 10c tickets than normal available.
  • primussucksprimussucks Posts: 2,364
    If he's playing Detroit then he's playing Chicago for sure, probably a day or 2 after. I'll be there!
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