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Are CD boots pressed or burned?

Murderers.Murderers. Posts: 1,382
edited June 2008 in The Porch
Can we please get confirmation on this one, because several people have asked and I havn't seen an answer yet.

Thank you.
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    TravelarTravelar Kalamazoo, USA Posts: 3,359
    Since it says that they are "manufactured to order", I have a hard time believing that they would be anything but pressed.
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    restlesssoulrestlesssoul Posts: 6,939
    TrAvELAr wrote:
    Since it says that they are "manufactured to order", I have a hard time believing that they would be anything but pressed.
    me too, no way we would be paying for a burnt cd.
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    tschavtschav Posts: 2,772
    my guess is that they have some nice screen-printed CD-Rs placed in decent packaging. has the quality look of the 2003 bootlegs, but burned via CD-R or similar.
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    anakin_pdxanakin_pdx Posts: 389
    I just got this reply to my question I sent this morning...

    >The Cds are CD-Rs, but lifetime guaranteed and will be made using recycled material.
    >
    >Best,
    >~10c

    So CD-Rs, but assuming the 10C is around for life if anything happens they will replace the actual disc even 20 years from now which is cool. I ordered the first two already.
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    Frank GibsonFrank Gibson Italy Posts: 107
    I can't believe it
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    OmahaJammerOmahaJammer Posts: 261
    Frank Gibson wrote:
    I can't believe it


    What's the big deal? When a band has a cd mastered...the audio engineer puts the final product (the MASTER copy) on a high quality Cd-R. So, if the quality of the audio is not compromised, and the cd-r has a lifetime guarantee from the 10-club....who cares? 9 out of 10 people are just going to immediately rip it to their computer/iPod anyway, right?
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    John Briggs 2008John Briggs 2008 Posts: 1,024
    OmahaJammer wrote:
    What's the big deal? When a band has a cd mastered...the audio engineer puts the final product (the MASTER copy) on a high quality Cd-R. So, if the quality of the audio is not compromised, and the cd-r has a lifetime guarantee from the 10-club....who cares? 9 out of 10 people are just going to immediately rip it to their computer/iPod anyway, right?


    Yeah, I see it the same way and many don't realize that. I think it's kind of cool and personal this way anyways. More heart goes into making them and they don't end up overkill past demand. Saves them money and ensures us more future bootlegs at future tours.
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    Frank GibsonFrank Gibson Italy Posts: 107
    i don't care to have the mp3
    i would like to have a boot with a beautiful art work and cd too
    i don't like that
    it's only my opinion cause for that reason i think price could be less than that
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    JulienJulien Posts: 2,457
    Frank Gibson wrote:
    i don't care to have the mp3
    i would like to have a boot with a beautiful art work and cd too
    i don't like that
    it's only my opinion cause for that reason i think price could be less than that
    wait that you see the product before complaining.
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    OmahaJammerOmahaJammer Posts: 261
    Frank Gibson wrote:
    it's only my opinion cause for that reason i think price could be less than that

    Good point...I'm a little surprised. Top of the line studio-used cd-rs (Taiyo Yuden for example) are about $.39 each. There's no doubt they'll make a killing on these.
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    OmahaJammerOmahaJammer Posts: 261
    Julien wrote:
    wait that you see the product before complaining.

    Also a good point.
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    John Briggs 2008John Briggs 2008 Posts: 1,024
    I have bought all available shows to date for this your in mp3. If I really enjoy certain shows then I am going to by them on CD-R from TenC just to have that personal touch. I wanna see what the CD artwork and stuff looks like first though.
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    moses562moses562 Posts: 1,382
    tschav wrote:
    my guess is that they have some nice screen-printed CD-Rs placed in decent packaging. has the quality look of the 2003 bootlegs, but burned via CD-R or similar.

    I agree.
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    the wolfthe wolf Posts: 7,027
    OmahaJammer wrote:
    Good point...I'm a little surprised. Top of the line studio-used cd-rs (Taiyo Yuden for example) are about $.39 each. There's no doubt they'll make a killing on these.

    not really. they only way for them to make a killing on these would be if they sold MILLIONS of each show. doing it this way cuts costs for them, when it will no doubt be such a small run for each show. making "high quality" cd's for what 11 shows would cost them waaaay to much and in the end they would not recoup the expense. its not like each show is a "major" release or anything here.

    c'mon people, what if they just say "fuck it, no more boots" they have to cut costs where they can.

    ease up.
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    Mrs.Vedder78Mrs.Vedder78 Posts: 4,585
    People bitched when there were no more CD's and only digital bootlegs were made available, now they have both options and people are still complaining!! :rolleyes:

    I guess Tim was right yesterday, making everyone happy will never ever happen.
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    Murderers.Murderers. Posts: 1,382
    tschav wrote:
    my guess is that they have some nice screen-printed CD-Rs placed in decent packaging. has the quality look of the 2003 bootlegs, but burned via CD-R or similar.
    Sounds good to me. :)
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    Frank GibsonFrank Gibson Italy Posts: 107
    i dont complain
    i would like only to have good artwork and packaging
    do you know the old boots by tory amos?
    that was a particula artwork
    i only hope to have something like that

    i don't like only that stupid things about mobile phone ecc. ecc. but i understand that we are going into the future
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    thunderDANthunderDAN Posts: 2,094
    So the MP3 version and the CD versions are of the same quality?
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    Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,486
    can someone explain to me why it takes so much to make a bootleg?

    surely you just tape it? divide it up ? maybe alter levels? then just burn to a cd :S
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    TravelarTravelar Kalamazoo, USA Posts: 3,359
    thunderDAN wrote:
    So the MP3 version and the CD versions are of the same quality?

    Not really... since MP3 is compressed audio, it will never rival the quality of a CD.
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    aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,118
    thunderDAN wrote:
    So the MP3 version and the CD versions are of the same quality?
    No. The CD's are equal to the FLAC version.
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    Lennon_CobainLennon_Cobain Posts: 704
    My only problem with CD-Rs instead of factory-pressed CDs is that I think the original announcement regarding CDs was misleading. Since when are burned CD-Rs considered to be "manufactured" CDs?
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    bazzerbazzer Posts: 3,089
    Lennon_Cobain wrote:
    My only problem with CD-Rs instead of factory-pressed CDs is that I think the original announcement regarding CDs was misleading. Since when are burned CD-Rs considered to be "manufactured" CDs?
    The original announcement definitely said "burn-to-order". Then later, in the announcement it had made to order and manufactured as well.
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    drsluggodrsluggo Posts: 4,742
    OmahaJammer wrote:
    Good point...I'm a little surprised. Top of the line studio-used cd-rs (Taiyo Yuden for example) are about $.39 each. There's no doubt they'll make a killing on these.
    I'm going to look at it this way...

    The MP3 d/l is $10, the Flac is $15, the CDs are $17 with free shipping.

    So figure shipping is like... $2 first class w/mailer.

    So if you go with that logic, you're essentially getting the CDs/packaging for free since sound quality is basically a FLAC. I can't argue with that pricing at all - you're basically paying $2 more for the CDs, packaging, shipping, mailer and the time it takes to do all of that... no way is that making a killing (although obviously being able to sell the bootlegs in general is since there's not much cost involved in that, but for the argument of the CDs they aren't).

    Now I would REALLY love to hear what (if any) artword will be on the CDs/packaging. Because if its nothing much I'd probably just d/l the songs since as someone else already said its going on an ipod anyway.

    Santos... care to provide a preview? ;)
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    GardenpartyGardenparty Posts: 1,908
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    uglybabouglybabo Posts: 518
    When I put the CD version in my cart it says the delivery charge is $4.50.

    Is it only free shiping in the US?
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    drsluggodrsluggo Posts: 4,742
    mwilmot4 wrote:
    When I put the CD version in my cart it says the delivery charge is $4.50.

    Is it only free shiping in the US?
    Yes- $4.50 internationally
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    uglybabouglybabo Posts: 518
    drsluggo wrote:
    Yes- $4.50 internationally

    Thanks.

    Since I'm only getting a couple of shows, I think I'll still go for the CD.
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    AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    I don't give a shit if it's a CD-R. I'm buying the 'Roo boot anyway!

    Thnx 10C!!!
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    anteroantero Earth Posts: 21
    I really think santos or somebody else from the management SHOULD clarify us what exactly we eill get from our CD purchase.

    Are we will going to receive a CD-R with no artwork package? no labeled? if the answwer is yes i want my money back since i bought ALL the Cds available and plans to get the rest aswell.... this silence from the responsible people looks too long..... please somebody post a preview of the CD package
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