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what year was it when they went soft?

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    ajedigeckoajedigecko \m/deplorable af \m/ Posts: 2,430
    dunkman wrote:
    i'm the absolute opposite of you on this one... the early stuff makes me cringe with embarrassment... i hate it... they look like drunk 14 year old carnies after 4 hours on a spinning ride.

    i like the mellow groove they've got going on... if i want to watch people flailing around on a stage in some testosterone fuelled orgy of long hair then i'll just buy a 70's porn movie.
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    ajedigeckoajedigecko \m/deplorable af \m/ Posts: 2,430
    Spinbrett wrote:
    this is what it use to look like.
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=VbhsYC4gKy4
    which state fair is this from?
    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
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    SENROCKSENROCK Posts: 10,736
    Spinbrett wrote:
    95? 96? Watch early stuff from PJ and it completely blows you away with the intesity. EVERY member is basically going crazy and owning the stage, now, its about as intense as bingo night at the retirement home. I know they got older but, what happened?
    this belongs in the WTF?! thread!!!
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    augustwestaugustwest Posts: 739
    ajedigecko wrote:
    which state fair is this from?

    looks like pinkpop 1992

    dont know if i'd call it a state fair

    im like dunkman...i dont miss those old dayz...they are way cooler now
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    Gonzo1977Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    I wish Stone and Mike would grow their hair long again. Cause It was so much better then.

    I wish Jeff would start wearing his funny hats again. Cause It was so much better then.

    I wish Eddie would Climb to the top of the Raffters, and wear his Courdoroy Jacket again. Cause It was so much better then.

    I wish the band would re-write Ten over and over again. Cause It was so much better then.

    I wish I was young again. Cause It was so much better then.
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    augustwestaugustwest Posts: 739
    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    I wish Stone and Mike would grow their hair long again. Cause It was so much better then.

    I wish Jeff would start wearing his funny hats again. Cause It was so much better then.

    I wish Eddie would Climb to the top of the Raffters, and wear his Courdoroy Jacket again. Cause It was so much better then.

    I wish the band would re-write Ten over and over again. Cause It was so much better then.

    I wish I was young again. Cause It was so much better then.

    looks like you got a wishlist happening there ;)
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    riffrandallriffrandall Posts: 685
    Spinbrett wrote:
    95? 96? Watch early stuff from PJ and it completely blows you away with the intesity. EVERY member is basically going crazy and owning the stage, now, its about as intense as bingo night at the retirement home. I know they got older but, what happened?

    Wasn't it the same year that you stopped beating the crap out of your girlfriend?
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    MichaelMcKevinMichaelMcKevin Posts: 1,161
    I wouldn't normally namecall on a forum, but on this.... you're an idiot.

    They used to rock out like they were new to it (ie. all the going crazy on stage and shit).

    Now, they rock out A LOT like professionals.
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    glasshouseglasshouse Posts: 1,762
    i can't remember the year exactly but it happened Monday 11th May at 17h33:15
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    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    I wish Stone and Mike would grow their hair long again. Cause It was so much better then.

    I wish Jeff would start wearing his funny hats again. Cause It was so much better then.

    I wish Eddie would Climb to the top of the Raffters, and wear his Courdoroy Jacket again. Cause It was so much better then.

    I wish the band would re-write Ten over and over again. Cause It was so much better then.

    I wish I was young again. Cause It was so much better then.


    Here ya go: Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense
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    Drew263Drew263 Birmingham, AL Posts: 602
    Spinbrett wrote:
    95? 96? Watch early stuff from PJ and it completely blows you away with the intesity. EVERY member is basically going crazy and owning the stage, now, its about as intense as bingo night at the retirement home. I know they got older but, what happened?


    When they grew up. You should look into that phenomenon.
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    vedder_soupvedder_soup Posts: 5,860
    glasshouse wrote:
    i can't remember the year exactly but it happened Monday 11th May at 17h33:15
    dude, it was 1979...
    how could you forget that!! ;)
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    kh65kh65 Posts: 946
    New PJ album title = "Viagara (only the hard stuff)"

    Don't worrry they got permission to use the name.
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    URthekeyURthekey Posts: 1,656
    Both the band and the fans matured.


    Teenage angst got old.
    We don't want to crowd surf and mosh anymore.
    but I still think we rock out pretty hard.

    Compared to like.... Barry Manilow fans.
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    TEEJAM11TEEJAM11 Posts: 335
    funny you must need attention or something!!!!!!!!!!
    Ok I will give in and give you love......
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    ed would look utterly ridiculous doing that schtick today.

    They're 20 years older

    move on
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    Spinbrett wrote:
    95? 96? Watch early stuff from PJ and it completely blows you away with the intesity. EVERY member is basically going crazy and owning the stage, now, its about as intense as bingo night at the retirement home. I know they got older but, what happened?


    obviously you aren't in tune with the orgasmicly intense vibe that runs through the crowd like a million volts of electricity!!!


    i like to use the Michael Jordan metaphor.in his first comeback with the bulls he didn't jump as high or soar as long but MJ was a much better PLAYER (veteran experience) PJ is the same way.
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    darthvedder81darthvedder81 Posts: 688
    Actually for me watching pre-1995 PJ makes me feel embarassed for them. All the long, flowing, cream-rinsed hair on everybody and the shirtlessness, and the prancing. I like the old songs but that early-90's almost GNR image of PJ is dated and silly now.
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    augustwestaugustwest Posts: 739
    URthekey wrote:
    Both the band and the fans matured.


    Teenage angst got old.
    We don't want to crowd surf and mosh anymore.
    but I still think we rock out pretty hard.

    Compared to like.... Barry Manilow fans.

    i like this thread...regardless if anyone loves the old dayz or not...it is comical to see them back then, i must admit...and hell i was a different person 15years ago!

    funny how some really great song can be written with angst in mind...whether its a angst about the world, a recent girl break up etc etc

    some of the best songs need angst

    i suppose i dont have teenage angst anymore but certainly eddie and the boys have lot to be angry with ;)

    save you and wws come to mind
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    95-96 sounds about right. they lost their edge. i think a lot of people want to believe they haven't but we all know the reality. i still buy their stuff and go to shows but things like pinkpop 92, evenflow video, Atl 4-3-94 will never happen again.
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    AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    its obvious that shows were crazier, more intense, and heavier back then.

    however, to say they have gone soft is craziness. the band has grown and matured musically much more. they are a much better band now. the shows are tighter, longer, have better setlists, and are performed better. yes the early crazy days are AMAZING, but its all a part of the evolution of the band. no code - present has produced unbelievable albums and undeniably the band's greatest tours containing some of their most legendary and epic shows, whether or not people are crowd surfing and ed is jumping off of ledges. i much prefer the creative diverse pj. the passion is WITHOUT A DOUBT still there. its just not expressed in the same way anymore. sorry bro, i think you're dead wrong.
    perfectly said - couldn't agree more...
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    TEEJAM11TEEJAM11 Posts: 335
    They are still together as a band!!!!
    Most bands break up because of ego's, drugs etc.....
    And I bet the same guy talking crap will be attending a show sooner then later.
    like I said before this guy needs attention and post this kind of thread here is craze but to each his own.....
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    SpinbrettSpinbrett Posts: 251
    Like someone said earlier. Ed never moves anymore. Even Bono from U2 still runs all over the place. I think it gets the crowd going better if Ed would would move around more. Stone use to move too, he kinda stopped also.
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    knittedknitted Posts: 244
    Spinbrett wrote:
    Like someone said earlier. Ed never moves anymore. Even Bono from U2 still runs all over the place. I think it gets the crowd going better if Ed would would move around more. Stone use to move too, he kinda stopped also.

    are you kidding?? - ed never moves anymore?! he does too. you think the crowd would get going better if he moved more?! - man, it's not dancing with the stars!!

    AND bono looks like a dickhead 'running all over the place'. puh-lease.

    btw, dunkman, i knew you'd turn up in this thread. amen, bro. it's not 1992 anymore and thank god for that.
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    SpinbrettSpinbrett Posts: 251
    Bono doesnt look stupid..he owns the stage. Ed is basically a statue now. Only on big venue's does he move around. So what your saying is that when you mature as a band, you stop moving around the stage?
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    12345AGNST112345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    Spinbrett wrote:
    Bono doesnt look stupid..he owns the stage. Ed is basically a statue now. Only on big venue's does he move around. So what your saying is that when you mature as a band, you stop moving around the stage?


    If south park made an entire episode showing how much of a tool he is, id say its pretty safe to say he is.

    Yea and ed doesn't move.......right.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-7MyOUeVd0
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    Thank God the shows have toned down a bit - at least as far as being in the audience goes. Dudes like me who were > 21 from the start are now "too old for that kind of shit".
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