A reason to fight, and a reason to stand your ground

Soulfire42 wrote:

Let me try to rephrase some things in some more simplistic terms to hopefully show how stupid it is trying to label me the problem and of being a hatemonger, racist or bigot.

The premise is that there are current members of the Islamic faith performing barbaric acts and working to expand the reach of barbaric sharia laws. I have stated that we must identify this enemy and work to stand our ground and fight against it in a variety of manners. This is necessary to support nearly universally agreed upon norms of humanity and human rights.

I show indisputable evidence of at least hundreds of Islamic faith members stoning individuals to death. I provide evidence and links to entire investigative reports about the largest mosque in England serving as a platform to expand the teaching and reach of “radical” Islamic views. I make the claim that we must be wary and vigilant against permitting this to expand uncontested. I provide evidence that there is an organized effort to expand the reach of sharia law and its geographical spread.

I also make the claim that the ideology of the Islamic faith often leads to the oppression of women in society and provide factual claims that practitioners of the muslim faith migrating to European nations has resulted in dramatic increases of crimes against women. I again make the claim that we should be wary and vigilant of such an ideology. I warn that excessive tolerance, apathy and inaction foster a permissive environment which makes such abuses and crimes against humanity much more likely to continue to happen and spread.

I see it as further proof of my point that by illustrating this information, providing visual and written proof and stating that we should stand united against such barbarism, I am viewed by many seeking to be perceived as politically correct, to be the one who is the actual threat. They want me viewed as the racist, the bigot and the hatemonger for pointing out crimes against humanity being performed by participants of the Islamic faith which seem to rather directly stem from the ideology involved. The ideology involves unchallengeable decrees from religious leaders, primitive rule systems that exact abhorrent violence (stonings, beheadings, limb amputations, etc.) upon people who do not typically receive anything resembling a fair trial. They want the evidence presented to be seemingly ignored and to list other crimes or abuses by other groups as reasons to ignore those which are being presented factually here.

My point is that we cannot permit political correctness, tolerance, desire for multiculturalism or diversity to become the ripe soil for barbaric ideologies and actions to take root and spread. I am just as firm a believer that the muslim victims being stoned to death, beheaded, or otherwise mutilated deserve defense and a united front of people saying that enough is enough as I believe any other group is. I refuse to sit idle and and not oppose this barbarism and ideology because it IS racist, it IS bigoted, it IS chauvinistic, it IS dangerous, it DOES lead to abhorrent actions done by large crowds of participants. It does lead to violence against women. There are groups organized with the desire to spread sharia law and to establish Islamic law far beyond its current reach. If you don’t believe this, then you didn’t look into much of what I have shared.

So if you want to continue to call me a racist or a bigot or whatever for being willing to take a stand against this insanity, I really don’t care. Label me that all you want. In my opinion, you end up defending the indefensible. Do you really want to be on the side of the people stoning people to death for supposed adultery, and do you really want to support beheadings as law? Do you really think I’m a bigot or a racist for saying we ought not stand by and be permissive? I don’t care what color their skin is. I don’t care where they live. Wrong is wrong. If you want to call me “righteous” for believing it is necessary to fight this insanity, feel free.

People on this board get all up in arms over things like the West Memphis 3 and perhaps rightfully so. However, as an issue of importance or an egregious abuse of law and humanity, I feel it pales in comparison to some of the things I have presented and there is no legitimate way of the WM3 issue expanding and causing further bloodshed and hardships for many people. The exact opposite is true of the issues I am bringing up in this thread. Factually, people are being stoned to death. Factually, sexual violence against women is on the rise when participants of this faith migrate to several European nations. Factually, there is an organized effort with financial backing to expand the reach and influence of sharia law throughout the world. How am I wrong for wanting to combat that? Is that the only issue in the world I want to combat? Nope, but it’s the issue this particular thread is about.

If my desire to combat this makes you want to call me a racist, a bigot and a hatemonger, so be it. Guess you’ll just also have to ignore the fact that I support a Palestinian state, think that muslims are often unfairly mistreated, advocate working hard toward ending racism, support women’s rights issues, despise fox news, etc, etc, etc. But if you want to keep trying to force me into your more comfortable stereotypes to ignore the information I am presenting, there’s not much I can do about it.

To counter any arguments I have made, I’ve seen nothing but people ignoring the information presented and instead bringing up other atrocities or problems that are not directly related to this topic. I grant that other atrocities and bad groups exist. That does nothing to counter any argument I am making. People may not want to believe there are organized and financed groups working to spread sharia law and similar insanity to the stoning video I presented. But I have given proof (if you watch the investigative reports or choose to do your own research) that it exists. Why wouldn’t we want to take a stand against that and how does wanting to take a stand against it make one a racist or a bigot?

Cosmo wrote:

aerial wrote:

I see you as someone that wants freedom for everyone, yet most on here can not see it. It's okay to insult and villify anyone other than Islam and it's followers here on the MT. A Muslim will blow up a public dinner and everyone here finds a way to blame someone else. The favorite is, blame an American!

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Thank you, Ms. Coulter, for missing the point all together... as we pretty much expected you would.
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The point is... Death Penalty is barbaric. Would everyone be happy if we exported sodium thiopental to iran so they can deliver lethal injections to adultrers? Because it seems to me like it is horrible to stone someone to death or chop off their heads... but, okey dokey to give them a leathal dose.
To me... the Death Penalty is barbaric... regardless of how it is adminstered.