Should we go back to old school ticket purchases?

Urohawk · February 2008

PEPPER wrote:

Just because you did not get tickets does not mean it is broken...remember The World Does Not Revolve Around You.

Never said it did. I didn't even try for tickets. I just think there is a better and more fair way to make tickets available. Just trying to change the place for the better one step at a time.

Hinny · February 2008

That system is fine for cities that get regular shows, but really shitty for places that don't, so people from these places (read: not North America) need to travel to get a PJ fix.

augustwest · February 2008

Urohawk wrote:

Never said it did. I didn't even try for tickets. I just think there is a better and more fair way to make tickets available. Just trying to change the place for the better one step at a time.

nevermind pepper...keep on keepin on

pj4900 · February 2008

There are more fans than tickets so put those, that want to go, in a lottery. The winners will be emailed and/or snail-mailed a passcode (which is unique) to purchase them within 10 days. If not purchased another member is picked.
Simple.

2-feign-reluctance · February 2008

Urohawk wrote:

Well the 10C did it again.....Considering the VIC fiasco and yesterdays ticket sale should they consider going back to old school ticket purchasing?

By that I mean tickets are done by mail ins and preference is given to those who live in the area of the concert.

I am all for the more modern methods of allowing purchases to multiple shows, but I think it would be great to give preferences to locals. For example, some people from NYC are going to be flying to Cali, but don't you think the guys in LA should get a priority? The karma would come back around when they play the Garden.

It always seem like I get screwed in these presales because they're at a time I have to work or that I can't manage to get tickets in my own backyard. I am all happy for you that you take off the summer and tour with the band. I just want to see them in one concert in my backyard.

I don't want to hear from people that say they make the ticket sales more of a "priority". I am usually in the operating room so don't tell me you want me to log in a computer for two hours instead of taking out your cancerous kidney.

remove the kidney man. all of this isn't worth the headache. bold people making big statments behind the safety of their computers and wouldn't be so rude if they met a 10C ticket person face to face about this. sometimes i hate the fucking internet. it emboldens people to a point where i'm embarassed to even have a login here.

rrivers · February 2008

Urohawk wrote:

Well the 10C did it again.....Considering the VIC fiasco and yesterdays ticket sale should they consider going back to old school ticket purchasing?

By that I mean tickets are done by mail ins and preference is given to those who live in the area of the concert.

I am all for the more modern methods of allowing purchases to multiple shows, but I think it would be great to give preferences to locals. For example, some people from NYC are going to be flying to Cali, but don't you think the guys in LA should get a priority? The karma would come back around when they play the Garden.

It always seem like I get screwed in these presales because they're at a time I have to work or that I can't manage to get tickets in my own backyard. I am all happy for you that you take off the summer and tour with the band. I just want to see them in one concert in my backyard.

I don't want to hear from people that say they make the ticket sales more of a "priority". I am usually in the operating room so don't tell me you want me to log in a computer for two hours instead of taking out your cancerous kidney.

I am fine with the system. I get tickets everytime I want to, never been shut out.

I don't know the specifics of the Vic, but it amazes me people are still so angry about this. The show was in a really small place!!! A lot of people were going to get shut out!!!

I love the backyard argument. If you were in a band and someone wanted to travel across the country to see you, would you not allow them to have a chance at the best seats. They are not getting priority, just the best chance. I would be flattered they wanted to travel that far and let them try to get them just like everyone who lives in the area of the show.

You say you want to see concerts in your backyard. You can still see them. It's not like these shows are sold out. There are still chances to get tickets for this small tour on Friday.

By the way, if anyone is wondering Urohawk is a urologist. I was curious when he said, "remove a cancerous kidney" so I searched his old posts and he mentions it any chance he gets.

Urohawk · February 2008

rrivers wrote:

I am fine with the system. I get tickets everytime I want to, never been shut out.

By the way, if anyone is wondering Urohawk is a urologist. I was curious when he said, "remove a cancerous kidney" so I searched his old posts and he mentions it any chance he gets.

Look at when I have posted that I am a urologist. One was a thread on peoples' job. The others were in reference to the exact thing you mentioned. "I am fine with the system. I get tickets everytime." I have a career and a job that doesn't allow me to sit by a computer for two hours in a rampant fit to try and buy tickets at every presale.

People usually challenge my commitment to the band or lack of support because I can't make time for ticket sales or I don't frequent message board and have a high post count. What is the point of joining the 10c if I have no access to the ticket sales. Under the old version of ticket purchasing I could actually get tickets to shows locally. Under the new system I have had to travel 5 hrs from my home show for the tour which means I probably screwed some local guy in Cinnci from getting a ticket when I lived in Detroit.

rrivers · February 2008

Urohawk wrote:

Look at when I have posted that I am a urologist. One was a thread on peoples' job. The others were in reference to the exact thing you mentioned. "I am fine with the system. I get tickets everytime." I have a career and a job that doesn't allow me to sit by a computer for two hours in a rampant fit to try and buy tickets at every presale.

People usually challenge my commitment to the band or lack of support because I can't make time for ticket sales or I don't frequent message board and have a high post count. What is the point of joining the 10c if I have no access to the ticket sales. Under the old version of ticket purchasing I could actually get tickets to shows locally. Under the new system I have had to travel 5 hrs from my home show for the tour which means I probably screwed some local guy in Cinnci from getting a ticket.

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I hope you are as good a urologist as you are at crowbarring the fact that you are one into every post!

I didn't challenge your commitment to the band, I could care less about your commitment. For you, maybe it doesn't make sense to join the 10club, but for the majority of members it does. I don't think they'll be changing just to accomodate you. But send them your resume like you did us, and maybe they will.

You didn't screw anyone out of a ticket in Cincy. You are a fan, you wanted to make the sacrifice to drive to Cincy from wherever you are. Why should you not have as much chance to get good seats as everyone else?

I don't hide behind a computer either. My username is my real first initial and last name. PM me if you need more info.

Good job, once again, hammering it home that you are a urologist!

By the way, I just removed the link you posted when I quoted you because I saw you removed it from your original post. See, I'm not all bad!

Kilgore_Trout · February 2008

my dad works for USPS... id be fine with the old school method

Urohawk · February 2008

rrivers wrote:

I didn't challenge your commitment to the band, I could care less about your commitment.

No you didn't but a heck of a lot of people around here pull committment card (via low post count comments, etc.) and lack of initiative as the reason for not getting tickets. I am just saying that some things interfere with some of us buying tickets. It could be any job...teacher in class....army ranger in Iraq, garbage man running his route, etc.

rrivers wrote:

You didn't screw anyone out of a ticket in Cincy. You are a fan, you wanted to make the sacrifice to drive to Cincy from wherever you are. Why should you not have as much chance to get good seats as everyone else?!

Well if I could see a home show in Detroit then I wouldn't have to go to Cincy and some guy in Cincy could see them in his back yard.

rrivers wrote:

By the way, I just removed the link you posted when I quoted you because I saw you removed it from your original post. See, I'm not all bad

Hey thanks. I realized that has my email and some other info. As a recent victim of identity theft I thought I should take it down.

Look I think you and I got off on the wrong foot. You just made it sound like you were suspicious of what I did by reading my previous posts. I figured I would prove it to you. I probably mistook your posts as a bit malicious and responded in kind. My apologizes.

I am glad you get tickets all the time. I used to get the majority I wanted as well. Under the new purchase as many shows as you want policy I have steadily noticed it's pretty tough to get tickets these days. Ones 10C number has no effect on that now.

rrivers · February 2008

Urohawk wrote:

Hey thanks. I realized that has my email and some other info. As a recent victim of identity theft I thought I should take it down.

Look I think you and I got off on the wrong foot. You just made it sound like you were suspicious of what I did by reading my previous posts. I figured I would prove it to you. I probably mistook your posts as a bit malicious and responded in kind. My apologizes.

I am glad you get tickets all the time. I used to get the majority I wanted as well. Under the new purchase as many shows as you want policy I have steadily noticed it's pretty tough to get tickets these days. Ones 10C number has no effect on that now.

No apology needed. I wouldn't call my post malicious, but I was definitely poking fun at seeing you mention you were a urologist a couple of times. I didn't doubt you were one, though.

Good luck getting tickets next tour!

Sprunkn7 · February 2008

Simple. Hell NOOOOOO.

Lennon_Cobain · February 2008

I didn't try to buy tickets yesterday so I don't have any first hand experience with what happened. However, I will say that going back to purchasing tickets by postal mail is not the way to go.

Ten Club needs to embrace technology. Online ticketing is definitely the way to go. I think Ten Club just needs to come up with a creative way of dealing with demand (both in terms of tickets and server capacity).

There are so many fan clubs out there with online ticketing. Ten Club should take a look at what they are doing. It might be a good idea for Ten Club to work with a third party like Ticketmaster (gasp).

What I think may work well would be if every Ten Club member received a personalized code to purchase tickets through Ticketmaster per tour/leg. Seniority likely could not be accounted for. Every show would have 2 days worth of Ten Club presale. Day 1 would be for people who pick that show as their first choice. Day 2 would be for anyone else (members) to buy tickets. Members would be allowed to use their code on Day 1 only once per tour/leg, but the code could be used an unlimited amount of times on Day 2. All shows would have a 2 ticket limit, and sales would be subject to availability.

Troubled Soul · February 2008

Absolutley 100% no. There is only one problem with the current system, they can't handle the traffic surge on ticket sale days. Upgrade capacity and the problem is solved.

Do they even sell money orders anymore?

whitepants · February 2008

In all honesty, I too miss the old way of requesting tickets. It was fun, easy, mail in a check or money order, and bam. You got your tickets.

But since 1997, I'm sure the 10c membership has doubled, and it's hard to process those ticket requests by mail. And there's no papertrail in case the order forms or pmt got lost. It's just your word that 'I mailed it in'.

I dunno, it just sucks all around. Just when we PJ fans are mocked that we are fans of hasbeens, but yet everytime they tour, we go through this crazy ticket sale crap. Just can't win.

scpjfan · February 2008

I would rather pay the service charge to ticketmaster.

When they rolled through in 05, I was on at 10am on ticketmaster, and got sweet tickets right away, no system crash, no waiting for confirmations.

YieldInHiding · February 2008

Or maybe just announce all tour dates at the same time like they used to?

toronado10 · February 2008

Not that the current system is perfect, but I think its the way to go. Just needs some improvements.

Another thing to remember is that back in the day they could get just about as many fan club tickets as needed. Currently the amount of fan club tickets available is significantly less. the fact of the matter is that no one is guaranteed tickets to any shows any more. everytime tickets go on sale there will likely be people disappointed that they didn't score tixs. there is no way to please everybody.

_ · February 2008

Urohawk wrote:

I don't want to hear from people that say they make the ticket sales more of a "priority". I am usually in the operating room so don't tell me you want me to log in a computer for two hours instead of taking out your cancerous kidney.

Haha! That's beautiful.

C'mon, a cancerous kidney can wait! It's not like it's an appendix or something. CLEARLY you are not a true fan of the band - and neither is your patient. And anyone who's not a Pearl Jam fan doesn't deserve to have his kidney removed. :rolleyes:

the wolf · February 2008

i can go with the better seats going to those that live in the area of the show, that would be cool, and then everyone has a shot at good seats. ( my 10c # is decent, not great, but okay. ) but mail in? no way!

that would now in this day and age, make things sooooo much worse.

my opinion. they just need more people to help out for "special" events, and sales. and a better bigger server.

Should we go back to old school ticket purchases?

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