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I don't think ignorance should necessarily be a stereotype for conservative thinking, rather it should be simply closed-mindedness.0
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Jeanwah wrote:I don't think ignorance should necessarily be a stereotype for conservative thinking, rather it should be simply closed-mindedness.
I agree. I think it is all about perspective and voluntary engagement. if you're not engaged, if you don't read about the issues, then you're not someone I will listen to or have a conversation with. This happens on both sides.0 -
In the US, the Libs aren't really "left" and the Cons aren't really "right". Everyone is just lumped together for ease by media and people in order to dismiss or approve of specific and perceived notions. Ideologically speaking, Conservative and Liberal thought are simply opposite sides of a coin to run a well kept society - but people tarnish the names with their misguided and misrepresentations of the practice and principles of each political leaning.CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis0 -
Conservative Thinking
Palin Accuses Obamas Of Spending Too Much Time Listening To A Preacher’s “Rants Against America And White People”
In another leak from Sarah Palin’s new book, the former governor takes aim at Barack and Michelle Obama, questioning their love of country and whether they were too influenced by someone she regards as anti-white.
In leaked extracts of her new book, Mrs Palin delves into the minefield of racial politics, arguing that the first African American US president is among those who regarded the conservative tea party movement as racially prejudiced and who thinks that “America is a fundamentally unjust and unequal country”.
As proof, she dredged up a quote from a 2008 campaign speech in which Mrs Obama said “for the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country”.
Mrs Palin went on to say: “I guess this shouldn’t surprise us, since both of them spent almost two decades in the pews of the Reverend Jeremiah Wright’s church listening to his rants against America and white people.”
Lost in Palin’s take is that Michelle Obama explained that what made her proud was the involvement of young people in the electoral process.
For the first time in my lifetime, I am seeing people rolling up their sleeves in way that I haven’t seen and really trying to figure this out, and that’s the source of pride I was talking about.
Palin also puts down talent shows, oblivious to the fact that her daughter is on one.0 -
FiveB247x wrote:In the US, the Libs aren't really "left" and the Cons aren't really "right". Everyone is just lumped together for ease by media and people in order to dismiss or approve of specific and perceived notions. Ideologically speaking, Conservative and Liberal thought are simply opposite sides of a coin to run a well kept society - but people tarnish the names with their misguided and misrepresentations of the practice and principles of each political leaning.
"The Left has moved to the Center, and the Right has moved to the insane asylum".....hehehehe0 -
Conservative Thinking...
Liberal Tricks...
Here are some common liberal tricks that many people fall for:
1.When a liberal theory of pseudo-science is disproved or discredited, then simply change the name (or definition) of the theory to render it impossible to test, as in "global warming" -> "climate change."[1]
2.Claim a candidate is a racist if his campaign received a small donation (amid thousands of other donations) from someone who might be called a racist.
3.Distracting and disrupting reasoned discussion, as in stating irrelevant claims, inconsequential tales of personal experience, or false outrage.
4.Making pseudo-religious arguments even though the person making the arguments does not adhere to the Bible, such as "judge ye not!"
5.Making arguments that have superficial appeal to the dimwitted, but are actually nonsensical and probably not believed by the liberal himself.[2]
6.Try to draw a conservative in to saying or doing something which can then be dishonestly twisted to cast him in a bad light.
7.So as not to show his true beliefs of supporting evil infanticide and taxpayer-funded abortion, Barack Obama insists he is pro-choice, but not pro-abortion. [3]
8.Inserting a liberal assumption into a question, as illustrated by the classic "When did you stop beating your wife?!"
9.Pretending that liberals do not have a political point of view, but are just being reasonable.[4]
10.Exaggerating praise for fellow liberals.[5]
11.Pretending that atheism equals intelligence.
12.In court decisions, holding in favor of the conservative side by using liberal reasons that will be cited for liberal outcomes in future cases[6]
13.Liberals befriending you so that you become liberal. (Conversely, why don't they become conservative?)
14.Citing "live and let live!" except when it comes to praying aloud in school, keeping the money you earn, building on your own property, and every other liberal issue.
15.Citing "it doesn't hurt to try!" (In reference to drugs, alcohol, and other immoral behaviors such as premarital sex, worshiping other gods/many gods/no gods, homosexuality, or abortion).
16.Claiming that because everyone else supposedly believes in something, therefore it must be right.
17.Claiming that your parents aren't cool; that Hollywood values are cool; that professor values are brilliant; and that you must blindly follow your government.
18.There is a shortage of everything we want.
19.Prayer is for dummies, or is antiquated.
20.Kids are getting smarter than old folks.
21.Smearing your adversary with a highly offensive accusation or insinuation.
22.Calling someone a racist if he criticizes a someone who happens to have a different skin color.
23.Demonizing conservatives and pretending they don't care about regular people.
24.If you don't like it (something offensive on television), don't watch it (but they don't seem to go for if you don't like whales being killed, don't watch them being killed).
25.Believing the poor are blameless because they have nothing and the rich are to blame because they have everything.
26.Accusing conservatives of libel, but forgetting that truth is the perfect defense against libel.
27.In discounting other point of views, liberals use comparisons of other known "wrong actions" to justify their supposed correct stance. [7]
28.Inserting false information, usually lewd into a respected work or group of works.
29.Defending the assuration that democrats.com is not affiliated with the Democratic party. (We are told as an independent website, Democrats do not control the views of democrats.com.)
30.Claiming expertise beyond one's area of expertise, as in a "Dr." or professor implying that he is an expert in an area beyond his specialty[8]
31.Pretending an honorary degree does not give someone the right to be called "Doctor".
32.Pretending affirmative action is the best way to fill positions, including President of the U.S.
33.Fearing the wrath of voters this election cycle, Democrats have decided not to block offshore drilling bans renewed each October. After the election, Americans get sucker-punched because restoring the ban on new offshore oil drilling leases “will be a top priority for discussion next year.” [9]
34.Saying "If you believe that abortion is murder, don't have one!" as if abortion isn't undisputably the murder of a human being.
35.Supporting classlessness while pretending to care about the preservation of world culture.
36.Finding a diverse individual to be appealing or “cool” until they learn that the individual does not conform to their liberal agenda.
37.Claiming open-mindedness as a disguise for immorality. Such is a typical liberal claim regarding drug/alcohol abuse, promiscuity, etc.
38.Defending the lives of heinous criminals (by opposing capital punishment) while encouraging murder of unborn children (by supporting infanticide, known today as abortion).
39.Justifying sinful lying by saying "what they don't know can't hurt them."
What do you think?
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g under p wrote:Conservative Thinking...
Liberal Tricks...
Here are some common liberal tricks that many people fall for:
1.When a liberal theory of pseudo-science is disproved or discredited, then simply change the name (or definition) of the theory to render it impossible to test, as in "global warming" -> "climate change."[1]
2.Claim a candidate is a racist if his campaign received a small donation (amid thousands of other donations) from someone who might be called a racist.
3.Distracting and disrupting reasoned discussion, as in stating irrelevant claims, inconsequential tales of personal experience, or false outrage.
4.Making pseudo-religious arguments even though the person making the arguments does not adhere to the Bible, such as "judge ye not!"
5.Making arguments that have superficial appeal to the dimwitted, but are actually nonsensical and probably not believed by the liberal himself.[2]
6.Try to draw a conservative in to saying or doing something which can then be dishonestly twisted to cast him in a bad light.
7.So as not to show his true beliefs of supporting evil infanticide and taxpayer-funded abortion, Barack Obama insists he is pro-choice, but not pro-abortion. [3]
8.Inserting a liberal assumption into a question, as illustrated by the classic "When did you stop beating your wife?!"
9.Pretending that liberals do not have a political point of view, but are just being reasonable.[4]
10.Exaggerating praise for fellow liberals.[5]
11.Pretending that atheism equals intelligence.
12.In court decisions, holding in favor of the conservative side by using liberal reasons that will be cited for liberal outcomes in future cases[6]
13.Liberals befriending you so that you become liberal. (Conversely, why don't they become conservative?)
14.Citing "live and let live!" except when it comes to praying aloud in school, keeping the money you earn, building on your own property, and every other liberal issue.
15.Citing "it doesn't hurt to try!" (In reference to drugs, alcohol, and other immoral behaviors such as premarital sex, worshiping other gods/many gods/no gods, homosexuality, or abortion).
16.Claiming that because everyone else supposedly believes in something, therefore it must be right.
17.Claiming that your parents aren't cool; that Hollywood values are cool; that professor values are brilliant; and that you must blindly follow your government.
18.There is a shortage of everything we want.
19.Prayer is for dummies, or is antiquated.
20.Kids are getting smarter than old folks.
21.Smearing your adversary with a highly offensive accusation or insinuation.
22.Calling someone a racist if he criticizes a someone who happens to have a different skin color.
23.Demonizing conservatives and pretending they don't care about regular people.
24.If you don't like it (something offensive on television), don't watch it (but they don't seem to go for if you don't like whales being killed, don't watch them being killed).
25.Believing the poor are blameless because they have nothing and the rich are to blame because they have everything.
26.Accusing conservatives of libel, but forgetting that truth is the perfect defense against libel.
27.In discounting other point of views, liberals use comparisons of other known "wrong actions" to justify their supposed correct stance. [7]
28.Inserting false information, usually lewd into a respected work or group of works.
29.Defending the assuration that democrats.com is not affiliated with the Democratic party. (We are told as an independent website, Democrats do not control the views of democrats.com.)
30.Claiming expertise beyond one's area of expertise, as in a "Dr." or professor implying that he is an expert in an area beyond his specialty[8]
31.Pretending an honorary degree does not give someone the right to be called "Doctor".
32.Pretending affirmative action is the best way to fill positions, including President of the U.S.
33.Fearing the wrath of voters this election cycle, Democrats have decided not to block offshore drilling bans renewed each October. After the election, Americans get sucker-punched because restoring the ban on new offshore oil drilling leases “will be a top priority for discussion next year.” [9]
34.Saying "If you believe that abortion is murder, don't have one!" as if abortion isn't undisputably the murder of a human being.
35.Supporting classlessness while pretending to care about the preservation of world culture.
36.Finding a diverse individual to be appealing or “cool” until they learn that the individual does not conform to their liberal agenda.
37.Claiming open-mindedness as a disguise for immorality. Such is a typical liberal claim regarding drug/alcohol abuse, promiscuity, etc.
38.Defending the lives of heinous criminals (by opposing capital punishment) while encouraging murder of unborn children (by supporting infanticide, known today as abortion).
39.Justifying sinful lying by saying "what they don't know can't hurt them."
What do you think?
Peace
Isn't this in the Bible? Leviticus 4:80 -
and he shall take off from it all the fat of the bullock for the sin offering; the fat that coverth the inwards, and all the fat that is upon the inwards
- leviticus 4:8hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
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stopped reading at number one.g under p wrote:Conservative Thinking...
Liberal Tricks...
Here are some common liberal tricks that many people fall for:
1.When a liberal theory of pseudo-science is disproved or discredited, then simply change the name (or definition) of the theory to render it impossible to test, as in "global warming" -> "climate change."[1]
2.Claim a candidate is a racist if his campaign received a small donation (amid thousands of other donations) from someone who might be called a racist.
3.Distracting and disrupting reasoned discussion, as in stating irrelevant claims, inconsequential tales of personal experience, or false outrage.
4.Making pseudo-religious arguments even though the person making the arguments does not adhere to the Bible, such as "judge ye not!"
5.Making arguments that have superficial appeal to the dimwitted, but are actually nonsensical and probably not believed by the liberal himself.[2]
6.Try to draw a conservative in to saying or doing something which can then be dishonestly twisted to cast him in a bad light.
7.So as not to show his true beliefs of supporting evil infanticide and taxpayer-funded abortion, Barack Obama insists he is pro-choice, but not pro-abortion. [3]
8.Inserting a liberal assumption into a question, as illustrated by the classic "When did you stop beating your wife?!"
9.Pretending that liberals do not have a political point of view, but are just being reasonable.[4]
10.Exaggerating praise for fellow liberals.[5]
11.Pretending that atheism equals intelligence.
12.In court decisions, holding in favor of the conservative side by using liberal reasons that will be cited for liberal outcomes in future cases[6]
13.Liberals befriending you so that you become liberal. (Conversely, why don't they become conservative?)
14.Citing "live and let live!" except when it comes to praying aloud in school, keeping the money you earn, building on your own property, and every other liberal issue.
15.Citing "it doesn't hurt to try!" (In reference to drugs, alcohol, and other immoral behaviors such as premarital sex, worshiping other gods/many gods/no gods, homosexuality, or abortion).
16.Claiming that because everyone else supposedly believes in something, therefore it must be right.
17.Claiming that your parents aren't cool; that Hollywood values are cool; that professor values are brilliant; and that you must blindly follow your government.
18.There is a shortage of everything we want.
19.Prayer is for dummies, or is antiquated.
20.Kids are getting smarter than old folks.
21.Smearing your adversary with a highly offensive accusation or insinuation.
22.Calling someone a racist if he criticizes a someone who happens to have a different skin color.
23.Demonizing conservatives and pretending they don't care about regular people.
24.If you don't like it (something offensive on television), don't watch it (but they don't seem to go for if you don't like whales being killed, don't watch them being killed).
25.Believing the poor are blameless because they have nothing and the rich are to blame because they have everything.
26.Accusing conservatives of libel, but forgetting that truth is the perfect defense against libel.
27.In discounting other point of views, liberals use comparisons of other known "wrong actions" to justify their supposed correct stance. [7]
28.Inserting false information, usually lewd into a respected work or group of works.
29.Defending the assuration that democrats.com is not affiliated with the Democratic party. (We are told as an independent website, Democrats do not control the views of democrats.com.)
30.Claiming expertise beyond one's area of expertise, as in a "Dr." or professor implying that he is an expert in an area beyond his specialty[8]
31.Pretending an honorary degree does not give someone the right to be called "Doctor".
32.Pretending affirmative action is the best way to fill positions, including President of the U.S.
33.Fearing the wrath of voters this election cycle, Democrats have decided not to block offshore drilling bans renewed each October. After the election, Americans get sucker-punched because restoring the ban on new offshore oil drilling leases “will be a top priority for discussion next year.” [9]
34.Saying "If you believe that abortion is murder, don't have one!" as if abortion isn't undisputably the murder of a human being.
35.Supporting classlessness while pretending to care about the preservation of world culture.
36.Finding a diverse individual to be appealing or “cool” until they learn that the individual does not conform to their liberal agenda.
37.Claiming open-mindedness as a disguise for immorality. Such is a typical liberal claim regarding drug/alcohol abuse, promiscuity, etc.
38.Defending the lives of heinous criminals (by opposing capital punishment) while encouraging murder of unborn children (by supporting infanticide, known today as abortion).
39.Justifying sinful lying by saying "what they don't know can't hurt them."
What do you think?
Peace
righties love to call it pseudo science when they don't understand. So pretty much all science.0 -
mikepegg44 wrote:do a lot of you think that being a conservative is based on ignorance?
Ignorance, selfishness, and a complete lack of imagination.0 -
know1 wrote:polaris_x wrote:it depends on how you view the word "selfish" ... ultimately conservatives think about themselves or their personal interests above everyone else's ... liberals tend to think that what is good for the whole is good for them ...
See - I think that is horribly misguided to the point of ignorance. It is possible to think conservatively from the standpoint that it is in EVERYONE'S best interest or the good of the whole.
explain how so ...0 -
Byrnzie wrote:mikepegg44 wrote:do a lot of you think that being a conservative is based on ignorance?
Ignorance, selfishness, and a complete lack of imagination.
can you elaborate? what makes it ignorance? Using conflict theory and talking about class warfare and all that aside, what makes me ignorant, selfish, and have a complete lack of imagination?that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
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mikepegg44 wrote:Byrnzie wrote:mikepegg44 wrote:do a lot of you think that being a conservative is based on ignorance?
Ignorance, selfishness, and a complete lack of imagination.
can you elaborate? what makes it ignorance? Using conflict theory and talking about class warfare and all that aside, what makes me ignorant, selfish, and have a complete lack of imagination?
Personal comments are not tolerated on the board.
And also, I don't know you, so It would be impossible for me to describe what motivates you personally, even if I did want to get banned.0 -
Byrnzie wrote:mikepegg44 wrote:Byrnzie wrote:
Ignorance, selfishness, and a complete lack of imagination.
can you elaborate? what makes it ignorance? Using conflict theory and talking about class warfare and all that aside, what makes me ignorant, selfish, and have a complete lack of imagination?
Personal comments are not tolerated on the board.
And also, I don't know you, so It would be impossible for me to describe what motivates you personally, even if I did want to get banned.
I am not talking about anyone in particular, I was using me as an example of a conservative, but I could have said what makes a conservative ignorant selfish and have a complete lack of imagination. I know that is what you think, I am asking why you think that. It isn't anything personal.that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
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tonifig8 wrote:Conservative Thinking
Palin Accuses Obamas Of Spending Too Much Time Listening To A Preacher’s “Rants Against America And White People”
In another leak from Sarah Palin’s new book, the former governor takes aim at Barack and Michelle Obama, questioning their love of country and whether they were too influenced by someone she regards as anti-white.
In leaked extracts of her new book, Mrs Palin delves into the minefield of racial politics, arguing that the first African American US president is among those who regarded the conservative tea party movement as racially prejudiced and who thinks that “America is a fundamentally unjust and unequal country”.
As proof, she dredged up a quote from a 2008 campaign speech in which Mrs Obama said “for the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country”.
Mrs Palin went on to say: “I guess this shouldn’t surprise us, since both of them spent almost two decades in the pews of the Reverend Jeremiah Wright’s church listening to his rants against America and white people.”
Lost in Palin’s take is that Michelle Obama explained that what made her proud was the involvement of young people in the electoral process.
For the first time in my lifetime, I am seeing people rolling up their sleeves in way that I haven’t seen and really trying to figure this out, and that’s the source of pride I was talking about.
Palin also puts down talent shows, oblivious to the fact that her daughter is on one.
Are you talking about the same Sarah Palin who criticized Obama for trying to be a celebrity when she's on every TV show she can get her smiling mug on, and who is criticizing Obama for his association with Jeremiah Wright while at the same time defending Bristol and her baby by saying people shouldn't be judged by the people they've associated with in the past? That Sarah Palin?And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.0 -
Personally, I always thought it was interesting that liberals tend to be college educated whereas conservatives aren't - so when it's convenient, conservative politicians attack liberals for being elitists, and try to point out how the elitist liberals don't understand the needs of the everyday, common conservative voter from the middle of nowhere who doesn't have a college education and has worked a blue collar job his entire life...
... without ever bringing up the fact that the conservative politicians who will "speak on behalf of the people" all have college degrees, went to Ivy League schools, come from well-to-do backgrounds, and have no more of an idea of what it's like to work 15 hours a day on a farm in the Midwest than liberal politicians do.And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.0 -
mikepegg44 wrote:what makes a conservative ignorant selfish and have a complete lack of imagination. I know that is what you think, I am asking why you think that. It isn't anything personal.
I don't know what makes a conservative ignorant, selfish, and have a complete lack of imagination. Maybe they were born that way, or maybe they become that way after living on the Earth for a few years.
Maybe the answer lies with their experience of childhood potty-training.Post edited by Byrnzie on0 -
cajunkiwi wrote:Personally, I always thought it was interesting that liberals tend to be college educated whereas conservatives aren't - so when it's convenient, conservative politicians attack liberals for being elitists, and try to point out how the elitist liberals don't understand the needs of the everyday, common conservative voter from the middle of nowhere who doesn't have a college education and has worked a blue collar job his entire life...
... without ever bringing up the fact that the conservative politicians who will "speak on behalf of the people" all have college degrees, went to Ivy League schools, come from well-to-do backgrounds, and have no more of an idea of what it's like to work 15 hours a day on a farm in the Midwest than liberal politicians do.
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right wing mentality is based on fear.
fear of immigrants, gays, terrorists, hell. it affects everything, domestic policy, foreign.
left wing mentality, true leftists, see that if you treat people the way they you would want to be treated, you have nothing to fear.
there is a reason terrorists leave canada alone. right wing canadian politicians are still farther left than most any US politician.0 -
Commy wrote:right wing mentality is based on fear.
fear of immigrants, gays, terrorists, hell. it affects everything, domestic policy, foreign.
left wing mentality, true leftists, see that if you treat people the way they you would want to be treated, you have nothing to fear.
there is a reason terrorists leave canada alone. right wing canadian politicians are still farther left than most any US politician.
this is exactly what I was afraid of, and that is the melding together of religious fundamentalist thinking with conservative fiscal policy and calling it all conservative.
I really wish they would have a different moniker so that someone who does not care about any of those things and certainly isn't afraid of any of them isn't painted with that brush. Or maybe I can start one for people who only want to be left alone by the government when it comes to day to day life stuff, a government that does not promote war and keep debt, and allows people to make choices, even ones that may harm them some day like eating trans fats.
Anyone got any ideas what we can be called?that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan0
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