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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Half Full wrote:
    NOT created by man, not THOUGHT UP. The word is "discover"

    Theories can not be discovered.... they are "thought up." There are many theories... the caveman's universe, the early chinese universe, the greek mathematician's universe, Galileo's universe, and the rational scientist's universe, to name a few. Everyone fervently believes their model of the universe is correct... and everyone's "discovery" is eventually disproven. That includes the rational scientist's universe. To think that your model must be correct is insane if you take a serious look at the history of science and philosophy. They are all models that are indeed "thought up" by the human mind.

    Sure, the sun and the stars exist, just as my hand exists in front of me. But the totality of the universe is much more complex than the human mind can ever... EVER... understand. We only have the models we that we created.

    but through all that, the universe we-modern man- has come to know was always in existence. ignorance of this doesnt make it less so. tis like the earth... back in the 15th century australia didnt exist for europeans, yet it was here all the time... waiting.
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    i remember when the world was flat
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    edited October 2010
    chadwick wrote:
    i remember when the world was flat

    Maybe scientists will discover one day that it is really flat.. on one of many planes of reality and that the universe warps around us.. hmmm..
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  • runaway
    runaway Posts: 427
    so there was darkness and
    a speed of light...
    nothing else
    the speed of light cruised
    over where Earth would be in the future...
    the speed of light keeps
    cruising and feels visions (or sees as some of you
    sees visions...)
    that is my perception of how
    God was created
    with planetary wars going on,
    I am so curious as what is
    going to happen on 12-21-20012
    A comet?
    Music is the universal language
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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    chadwick wrote:
    i remember when the world was flat

    Maybe scientists will discover one day that it is really is flat.. on one of many planes of reality and the universe warps around us.. hmmm..
    hmmmm 8-)
  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    what's at the edge of the universe?
    a wall?
  • Half Full wrote:
    what's at the edge of the universe?
    a wall?

    essentially, yes... on the "outside" of the universe there is no space or time. Nobody has the slightest idea what this would "look" like - it is completely outside of our ontological understanding. You or I (our bodies at least) can't go there so yeah, a wall, I guess.
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  • mysticweed
    mysticweed Posts: 3,710
    Half Full wrote:
    what's at the edge of the universe?
    a wall?

    essentially, yes... on the "outside" of the universe there is no space or time. Nobody has the slightest idea what this would "look" like - it is completely outside of our ontological understanding. You or I (our bodies at least) can't go there so yeah, a wall, I guess.

    beyond outer space is called hyper space
    the space between the unviveres and their respective outer spaces

    we are in our universe
    and our universe is in us
    every element in our bodies was initialized in the big bang

    evolution of the soul is
    what hurts my head now
    i do believe that humans
    created the gods
    and our very souls may have evolved as we began to fill our brains
    fuck 'em if they can't take a joke

    "what a long, strange trip it's been"
  • lettinggo wrote:
    beyond outer space is called hyper space
    the space between the unviveres and their respective outer spaces

    we are in our universe
    and our universe is in us
    every element in our bodies was initialized in the big bang

    evolution of the soul is
    what hurts my head now
    i do believe that humans
    created the gods
    and our very souls may have evolved as we began to fill our brains

    I appreciate the new-agey perspective, but hyperspace is not what is "outside" the universe, it is a term used to describe going beyond three-dimensions into 4th and higher dimensions (within our "universe").
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • mysticweed
    mysticweed Posts: 3,710
    lettinggo wrote:
    beyond outer space is called hyper space
    the space between the unviveres and their respective outer spaces

    we are in our universe
    and our universe is in us
    every element in our bodies was initialized in the big bang

    evolution of the soul is
    what hurts my head now
    i do believe that humans
    created the gods
    and our very souls may have evolved as we began to fill our brains

    I appreciate the new-agey perspective, but hyperspace is not what is "outside" the universe, it is a term used to describe going beyond three-dimensions into 4th and higher dimensions (within our "universe").

    ok
    not the way i remember it
    and i am far from new-agey, btw
    when the universe was determined to be finite
    the term for what was beyond our universe was called
    hyper space or so i thought
    (but i haven't been a genius since menopause)
    fuck 'em if they can't take a joke

    "what a long, strange trip it's been"
  • 81
    81 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    this topic always gives me a headache. :lol:
    81 is now off the air

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  • mysticweed
    mysticweed Posts: 3,710
    edited October 2010
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    Post edited by mysticweed on
    fuck 'em if they can't take a joke

    "what a long, strange trip it's been"
  • 81
    81 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    :?
    81 is now off the air

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  • mysticweed
    mysticweed Posts: 3,710
    81 wrote:
    :?

    sorry, that was you this morning
    wasn't it :shock:

    edit
    just looked it up so don't give me that confused shit
    fuck 'em if they can't take a joke

    "what a long, strange trip it's been"