hundreds of billions of universes

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  • loadedgun
    loadedgun Indiana Posts: 1,401
    catefrances wrote:
    what if we are? what if earth humans are as good as it gets??

    'Than thats an awful waste of space'
    Midwest. Indy/Lafayette.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    eeriepadave wrote:
    saw these two clips recently, really awesome!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEheh1BH34Q

    http://vimeo.com/15091562
    That size vid is amazing I'm not even a speck! I'm a sub speck ;)
    I loved it thanks...and the Red Antares star, it was the second hugest I think, was the one we so enjoyed setting with the crescent moon a couple weeks ago :D
  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    thefixer9 wrote:
    It's just so hard to comprehend!!!
    Makes you wonder how intelligent minds could evolve to be.. We can't be the smartest beings out there.

    We're all smart people here, but when we think too hard, there's always that fog that eventually limits us.

    I wonder if there is a limit on intelligence? And what limits it.. I could think about this stuff until I go insane.

    Even our pondering is limited by our brain capacities.

    I would surely hope, however, that our brains have at least intelligently evolved to the point of recognizing its own limitations; we are therefore actually rather stupid to think we might even be close to understanding life & the universe.

    Thank God for Love!
  • Loves_Vinyl
    Loves_Vinyl Posts: 85
    Half Full wrote:
    Thank God for Love!

    Amen!
    Where she walks no flowers bloom...
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    so much is not achieved easily or at all with our bullshit heads and spirits
    mental telepathy/psychic communications... score? = zero...

    transporting one's self across time & space... score = zero

    humans are very dumb
    humans are cruel and slow

    funny thing is most people do not believe in something unless it slaps them upside the skull
    then many still refuse to open up their minds

    idiots
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • unlost dogs
    unlost dogs Greater Boston Posts: 12,553
    I will let you in on a little secret: The universe is contained within my cranium and you're all figments of my imagination.
    15 years of sharks 06/30/08 (MA), 05/17/10 (Boston), 09/03/11 (Alpine Valley), 09/04/11 (Alpine Valley), 09/30/12 (Missoula), 07/19/13 (Wrigley), 10/15/13 (Worcester), 10/16/13 (Worcester), 10/25/13 (Hartford), 12/4/13 (Vancouver), 12/6/13 (Seattle), 6/26/14 (Berlin), 6/28/14 (Stockholm), 10/16/14 (Detroit)
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    unlost dogs wrote:
    I will let you in on a little secret: The universe is contained within my cranium and you're all figments of my imagination.
    world.....
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    unlost dogs wrote:
    I will let you in on a little secret: The universe is contained within my cranium and you're all figments of my imagination.
    You're probably right.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc
    If a tree falls in the forest.....
  • he still stands
    he still stands Posts: 2,835
    Drowned Out wrote:
    unlost dogs wrote:
    I will let you in on a little secret: The universe is contained within my cranium and you're all figments of my imagination.
    You're probably right.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc
    If a tree falls in the forest.....

    Descartes solved this problem hundreds of years ago with a simple statement:

    "I think therefore I am"

    so I exist, you exist, everyone exists... no one is just "imaginary"
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    he still stands wrote:
    Drowned Out wrote:
    unlost dogs wrote:
    I will let you in on a little secret: The universe is contained within my cranium and you're all figments of my imagination.
    You're probably right.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc
    If a tree falls in the forest.....

    Descartes solved this problem hundreds of years ago with a simple statement:

    "I think therefore I am"

    so I exist, you exist, everyone exists... no one is just "imaginary"
    it is beyond that.
    being or not being is so complex there are no answers
    there are no questions

    everything is nothing and nothing is everything
    everything is more than everything
    and more is incomprehensible
    incomprehensibleness does not exist yet lives and died every millisecond yet time implodes

    go figure
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • he still stands
    he still stands Posts: 2,835
    chadwick wrote:
    it is beyond that.
    being or not being is so complex there are no answers
    there are no questions

    everything is nothing and nothing is everything
    everything is more than everything
    and more is incomprehensible
    incomprehensibleness does not exist yet lives and died every millisecond yet time implodes

    go figure

    dude, put down the bong. :D

    that line of thinking can make you go insane. Analytical epistemology (look it up if you want) is a good way to approach these sorts of questions.

    Oh, and if YOU are responsible for making up me, him and everything else in the universe... GREAT job with Iraq, Afghanistan, world hunger and so forth. You really did a great job with that. :D
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    he still stands wrote:
    Drowned Out wrote:
    unlost dogs wrote:
    I will let you in on a little secret: The universe is contained within my cranium and you're all figments of my imagination.
    You're probably right.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc
    If a tree falls in the forest.....

    Descartes solved this problem hundreds of years ago with a simple statement:

    "I think therefore I am"

    so I exist, you exist, everyone exists... no one is just "imaginary"
    right. I don't question our existence...but "I am......what?"
    Do we each define our own 'what'? Do we exist beyond the physical realm, beyond our own observations?
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    he still stands wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    it is beyond that.
    being or not being is so complex there are no answers
    there are no questions

    everything is nothing and nothing is everything
    everything is more than everything
    and more is incomprehensible
    incomprehensibleness does not exist yet lives and died every millisecond yet time implodes

    go figure

    dude, put down the bong. :D

    that line of thinking can make you go insane. Analytical epistemology (look it up if you want) is a good way to approach these sorts of questions.

    Oh, and if YOU are responsible for making up me, him and everything else in the universe... GREAT job with Iraq, Afghanistan, world hunger and so forth. You really did a great job with that. :D

    the universe invented itself
    i did nothing
    all i have ever done was be born and go.......

    in fact i would not be surprised @ all if i were already extinct off the face of this universe
    or a dream in unlost dog's being
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Cree Nations
    Cree Nations Posts: 2,247
    Drowned Out wrote:
    right. I don't question our existence...but "I am......what?"
    Do we each define our own 'what'? Do we exist beyond the physical realm, beyond our own observations?

    when i look back at myself in the mirror with a belly full of whiskey and an overnight shadow.....I tend to think that the image staring back at me...exists...;)
    >>>>
    >
    ...a lover and a fighter.
    "I'm at least half a bum" Rocky Balboa

    http://www.videosift.com/video/Obamas-Message-To-American-Indians

    Edmonton, AB. September 5th, 2005
    Vancouver, BC. April 3rd, 2008
    Calgary,AB. August 8th, 2009
  • he still stands
    he still stands Posts: 2,835
    Drowned Out wrote:
    right. I don't question our existence...but "I am......what?"
    Do we each define our own 'what'? Do we exist beyond the physical realm, beyond our own observations?

    WHAT you are is easy; (talking about myself)... I am a human, a father, a son, a business manager, a brother, a musician, a runner, a Pearl Jam aficionado, etc etc. Labels of all sorts work here.

    WHO you are is a much more difficult question, and the question I think you intended to ask. Who am I now? I mean NOW now. Like at this moment. I’m a different person than I was in the previous moment and a very different person than I will be years from now. So now is all there is and I’m constantly asking myself “who am I now?” I am not my ego. I am not my desires, my possessions, my assets, or my defects.

    I am... just here. Now. In this moment. That is all there is. Enjoy it because everything else is ONLY a model created by my mind for explaining the here and now. 99.9999% of the previous models thought by you or anyone else have been proven to be wrong by rational and scientific thought... so my advice would be to just enjoy who you are in any given moment because you will wake up very soon and realize that WHO YOU ARE isn't going to last much longer.
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • he still stands
    he still stands Posts: 2,835
    chadwick wrote:
    the universe invented itself
    i did nothing
    all i have ever done was be born and go.......

    in fact i would not be surprised @ all if i were already extinct off the face of this universe
    or a dream in unlost dog's being

    Ou contrair.... The universe is created by MAN. Thousands of years ago man had no thought of anything external to what he could see, hear, etc. Then, man created the arts, culture, science, logic... and with these tools he created the "universe" as known to man. What we define as "the universe" changes with a blink of an eye. In a few decades I guarantee the universe will be "known" to be different that it is today. Think about it.... just a few decades ago the universe was "known" to be empty space and matter. Now we know that it is mostly anti-matter and dark energy and matter as we know it is just slowly vibrating energy. Who knows what man will think of next and what "universe" we will create. The "real" reality, the single concrete absolute reality of everything (the universe as we call it)... DOES NOT EXIST.
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • RKCNDY
    RKCNDY Posts: 31,013
    Great comparison to where we are on the scale of the universe...from string theory to....?
    After the program loads, just click and drag the blue square up or down...pretty cool.

    http://primaxstudio.com/stuff/scale_of_universe/
    The joy of life comes from our encounters with new experiences, and hence there is no greater joy than to have an endlessly changing horizon, for each day to have a new and different sun.

    - Christopher McCandless
  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    he still stands wrote:
    Drowned Out wrote:
    unlost dogs wrote:
    I will let you in on a little secret: The universe is contained within my cranium and you're all figments of my imagination.
    You're probably right.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc
    If a tree falls in the forest.....

    Descartes solved this problem hundreds of years ago with a simple statement:

    "I think therefore I am"

    so I exist, you exist, everyone exists... no one is just "imaginary"

    Whew! I'm glad you straightened THAT one out. For a moment there, I thought it was beginning to smell like a dog head around here.

    But like I said,I'm glad you straightened that out.

    Or I mean Descartes did.
    But then the Moodly Blues stepped in and messed us up again with "I think, therefore I am....I think"
    Or my college sweatshirt that said "I think...therefore I party"
  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    he still stands wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    the universe invented itself
    i did nothing
    all i have ever done was be born and go.......

    in fact i would not be surprised @ all if i were already extinct off the face of this universe
    or a dream in unlost dog's being

    Ou contrair.... The universe is created by MAN. Thousands of years ago man had no thought of anything external to what he could see, hear, etc. Then, man created the arts, culture, science, logic... and with these tools he created the "universe" as known to man. What we define as "the universe" changes with a blink of an eye. In a few decades I guarantee the universe will be "known" to be different that it is today. Think about it.... just a few decades ago the universe was "known" to be empty space and matter. Now we know that it is mostly anti-matter and dark energy and matter as we know it is just slowly vibrating energy. Who knows what man will think of next and what "universe" we will create. The "real" reality, the single concrete absolute reality of everything (the universe as we call it)... DOES NOT EXIST.

    NOT created by man, not THOUGHT UP. The word is "discover"
  • he still stands
    he still stands Posts: 2,835
    Half Full wrote:
    NOT created by man, not THOUGHT UP. The word is "discover"

    Theories can not be discovered.... they are "thought up." There are many theories... the caveman's universe, the early chinese universe, the greek mathematician's universe, Galileo's universe, and the rational scientist's universe, to name a few. Everyone fervently believes their model of the universe is correct... and everyone's "discovery" is eventually disproven. That includes the rational scientist's universe. To think that your model must be correct is insane if you take a serious look at the history of science and philosophy. They are all models that are indeed "thought up" by the human mind.

    Sure, the sun and the stars exist, just as my hand exists in front of me. But the totality of the universe is much more complex than the human mind can ever... EVER... understand. We only have the models we that we created.
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.

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