Are CD boots pressed or burned?

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  • aNiMaL
    aNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    thunderDAN wrote:
    So the MP3 version and the CD versions are of the same quality?
    No. The CD's are equal to the FLAC version.
  • Lennon_Cobain
    Lennon_Cobain Posts: 706
    My only problem with CD-Rs instead of factory-pressed CDs is that I think the original announcement regarding CDs was misleading. Since when are burned CD-Rs considered to be "manufactured" CDs?
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  • bazzer
    bazzer Posts: 3,126
    Lennon_Cobain wrote:
    My only problem with CD-Rs instead of factory-pressed CDs is that I think the original announcement regarding CDs was misleading. Since when are burned CD-Rs considered to be "manufactured" CDs?
    The original announcement definitely said "burn-to-order". Then later, in the announcement it had made to order and manufactured as well.
  • drsluggo
    drsluggo Posts: 4,742
    OmahaJammer wrote:
    Good point...I'm a little surprised. Top of the line studio-used cd-rs (Taiyo Yuden for example) are about $.39 each. There's no doubt they'll make a killing on these.
    I'm going to look at it this way...

    The MP3 d/l is $10, the Flac is $15, the CDs are $17 with free shipping.

    So figure shipping is like... $2 first class w/mailer.

    So if you go with that logic, you're essentially getting the CDs/packaging for free since sound quality is basically a FLAC. I can't argue with that pricing at all - you're basically paying $2 more for the CDs, packaging, shipping, mailer and the time it takes to do all of that... no way is that making a killing (although obviously being able to sell the bootlegs in general is since there's not much cost involved in that, but for the argument of the CDs they aren't).

    Now I would REALLY love to hear what (if any) artword will be on the CDs/packaging. Because if its nothing much I'd probably just d/l the songs since as someone else already said its going on an ipod anyway.

    Santos... care to provide a preview? ;)
  • Gardenparty
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  • uglybabo
    uglybabo Posts: 530
    When I put the CD version in my cart it says the delivery charge is $4.50.

    Is it only free shiping in the US?
  • drsluggo
    drsluggo Posts: 4,742
    mwilmot4 wrote:
    When I put the CD version in my cart it says the delivery charge is $4.50.

    Is it only free shiping in the US?
    Yes- $4.50 internationally
  • uglybabo
    uglybabo Posts: 530
    drsluggo wrote:
    Yes- $4.50 internationally

    Thanks.

    Since I'm only getting a couple of shows, I think I'll still go for the CD.
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    I don't give a shit if it's a CD-R. I'm buying the 'Roo boot anyway!

    Thnx 10C!!!
  • antero
    antero Earth Posts: 21
    I really think santos or somebody else from the management SHOULD clarify us what exactly we eill get from our CD purchase.

    Are we will going to receive a CD-R with no artwork package? no labeled? if the answwer is yes i want my money back since i bought ALL the Cds available and plans to get the rest aswell.... this silence from the responsible people looks too long..... please somebody post a preview of the CD package
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  • LONGRD
    LONGRD Posts: 6,036
    antero wrote:
    I really think santos or somebody else from the management SHOULD clarify us what exactly we eill get from our CD purchase.

    Are we will going to receive a CD-R with no artwork package? no labeled? if the answwer is yes i want my money back since i bought ALL the Cds available and plans to get the rest aswell.... this silence from the responsible people looks too long..... please somebody post a preview of the CD package
    They are working on it. That's why there is a 3 week delay after the purchase.

    I hope they have a different design for each venue. :D
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  • Brez
    Brez Posts: 570
    What's the difference between a CD and a CD-R?
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  • bazzer
    bazzer Posts: 3,126
    antero wrote:
    I really think santos or somebody else from the management SHOULD clarify us what exactly we eill get from our CD purchase.

    Are we will going to receive a CD-R with no artwork package? no labeled? if the answwer is yes i want my money back since i bought ALL the Cds available and plans to get the rest aswell.... this silence from the responsible people looks too long..... please somebody post a preview of the CD package
    Since they haven't shipped them yet, why don't you ask them to cancel your order(s) and wait until someone reports receiving it to decide if it's good value or not? They're going to be available for a while I'd think, so there's no loss if you order next month rather than right now.
  • corduroy10
    corduroy10 Posts: 199
    Brez wrote:
    What's the difference between a CD and a CD-R?

    Technically, a CD is mass produced in a factory, using machines that give us a final finished product.

    A CD-R is a recordable CD, that you can burn data onto using an ordinary computer ROM drive. The advantage to the 10C is that they can offer a hard copy product that people have been asking for, without having to comission minimum orders to a factory only to have piles of unsold bootlegs sitting in a warehouse somewhere. This way they can literally "Make-to-order" in house, while driving costs down significantly.

    Where this becomes an issue of controversy is that CD-R's can sometimes be spotty on quality and definately degrade faster than a "pressed" CD.

    However, word has it on the board that 10C is using very high quality CD-R's and are guaranteeing them, so this may not be an issue.
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  • dr teeth
    dr teeth Posts: 115
    giventoflyjbs wrote:
    I don't give a shit if it's a CD-R. I'm buying the 'Roo boot anyway!

    Thnx 10C!!!

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  • Evacuation Rules
    Evacuation Rules Posts: 2,162
    Good CDR's last a long time, shitty ones don't. Lots of people bought shitty cheap CDR's back in the 90's and assumed that they would be just as good as any other. Now they're paying the price. I haven't had a CDR detriorate since I started using TDK's back in the 90's. A lot of people are still clueless about it. I can't even tell you how many CDR "demos" bands have given me when we go on tour, and by the time we get home and listen to them, half of them are already unplayable, either because they used cheap-o CDR's or put one of those fucking paper labels on the disc.
  • anakin_pdx
    anakin_pdx Posts: 396
    I'm still happy with guaranteed CD-Rs. I've purchased all three so far, and plan to buy the rest. $2 more for not having to burn and label the discs myself is fine. Actually less than $2 because I won't have to buy blank cds and labels or cases.

    Although all this got me thinking. I don't know what Santos looks like, but I'm picturing this guy sitting at his computer in the same clothes for the 5th straight day in a row pulling out a burned cd and inserting a blank back into the drive and clicking "burn" again. And then checking and getting pissed every time someone orders another boot because it's another 2 minutes gone from his life...

    Obviously that's not what's happening, but it's funny to think about it!
  • Frank Gibson
    Frank Gibson Italy Posts: 107
    I woun't buy any cd for now
    i want to see the artwork and how they will do the all work
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  • Julien
    Julien Posts: 2,457
    the artwork will certainly be like the 2000 and 2003 boots.
    looking at the good section page on pearljam.com and looking at verizon website, it seems clear to me that we'll have someting like the previous boots.
    And the news says: CDs will be made-to-order using recycled material.
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  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,235
    absolutely right...they'll come in a cardboard sleev of some sort.....

    The cd's will be great, I've ordered the lot so far.,....and cant wait to get them...

    Flacs for two bucks less makes this a very easy choice!!! its a bargain

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