robert deleo vs. jeff ament

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edited January 2008 in The Porch
with the rumour of a stone temple pilots reunion i've been on an early 90s kick. between watching live STP clips and listening to purple and tiny music.. i'm quickly becoming impressed by how fucking amazing a bass player (ability and bass lines) robert deleo is.

better then jeff? perhaps.
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  • Hobbes wrote:
    with the rumour of a stone temple pilots reunion i've been on an early 90s kick. between watching live STP clips and listening to purple and tiny music.. i'm quickly becoming impressed by how fucking amazing a bass player (ability and bass lines) robert deleo is.

    better then jeff? perhaps.

    I've never thought to compare them. The DeLeo brothers both seem to have more of a jazz background. I guess I've always thought them too stylistically different to really compare.
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  • i dont wanna be so quick to compare the two... but id say robs stuff is a more apparent part of STP's work than jeffs is with PJ... jeff definitely stands out on a few tracks but id say usually PJ is a straight ahead pure rockin band where the bass is keeping time along with the drums... STP gets a lil more experimental with some of their stuff and since they have less members the bass probably just stands out a lil more... i love both of their work tho and it fits perfectly for both bands!

    i would LOVE to see an STP reunion! (scotts voice sounded a lil shaky live with velvet revolver IMO but it could still work)
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  • dannydanny Posts: 2,068
    Hobbes wrote:
    with the rumour of a stone temple pilots reunion i've been on an early 90s kick. between watching live STP clips and listening to purple and tiny music.. i'm quickly becoming impressed by how fucking amazing a bass player (ability and bass lines) robert deleo is.

    better then jeff? perhaps.



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  • i agree. i would be very excited to go see them. i saw them twice (for tiny music and no. 4) and they were such an incredible band back when tiny music came out. the show i was at in san diego was their last show for a long time (scott went to jail).

    but i agree. robert plays a more integral part of STPs music. the guy is incredible.
  • Robert DeLeo certainly knows how to look damn cool.
    Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
  • Robert DeLeo certainly knows how to look damn cool.
    nice! one of my favorite STP songs! scott looks like hed fit in better with judas priest tho :D

    (and come to think of it, scotts voice was never really that strong live so that definitely shouldnt be a deterent to reforming the band)
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  • sgossard3 wrote:
    nice! one of my favorite STP songs! scott looks like hed fit in better with judas priest tho :D

    (and come to think of it, scotts voice was never really that strong live so that definitely shouldnt be a deterent to reforming the band)

    I think his voice is just better suited to slower songs, live at least. I'm definitely for an STP reunion, so long as they include Ireland in the itinerary.:D

    And now I'm watching more clips of this gig... Robert really was the cornerstone of this band... A very strong songwriter, a decent backing vocalist, and a cool presence on stage.

    Him and Jeff are very alike.:p
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  • I think his voice is just better suited to slower songs, live at least. I'm definitely for an STP reunion, so long as they include Ireland in the itinerary.:D
    agreed... their MTV unplugged performance is incredible! and i remember their SNL performances being real strong too... i was too young to have seen em live before so itd be great to a second chance (ive gotten alot of second chances lately with SP, AIC, RAGE, etc :D )

    i hate to play into the whole "grunge" thing from back in the day but itd be great for all the great bands from that movement to tour together... would never happen... but DAMN would that be cool... provided SG reunites of course!
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  • Robert really was the cornerstone of this band... A very strong songwriter, a decent backing vocalist, and a cool presence on stage.

    you nailed it! robert is just amazing..
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  • sgossard3 wrote:
    i hate to play into the whole "grunge" thing from back in the day but itd be great for all the great bands from that movement to tour together... would never happen... but DAMN would that be cool... provided SG reunites of course!
    ok... i was just thinking about this some more... who wouldnt go see this lineup?

    -Pearl Jam
    -Soundgarden
    -Temple of the Dog (of course)
    -AIC
    -maybe a Mad Season tribute thing
    -Mudhoney
    -Green River (of course)
    -STP
    -Smashing Pumpkins
    -Janes Addiction
    -Rage Against the Machine
    -Foo Fighters (not nirvana but the closest connection)
    -Nine Inch Nails (same time period, not really "grunge")
    -Red Hot Chili Peppers

    yah... that would be sweet... lets start one of our famous petitions :D
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  • sgossard3 wrote:

    i would LOVE to see an STP reunion! (scotts voice sounded a lil shaky live with velvet revolver IMO but it could still work)

    yeah i felt that way too. Scott was such a goof ball on stage as well. I didn't realize he pranced around like that with STP too until i saw the video below. Such a cheezeball with extra parmasian.
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  • a5pja5pj Hershey PAPosts: 3,248
    I've met rob and dean, both awesome guys.

    Can't say whose better at bass though...
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  • sgossard3 wrote:
    ok... i was just thinking about this some more... who wouldnt go see this lineup?

    -Pearl Jam
    -Soundgarden
    -Temple of the Dog (of course)
    -AIC
    -maybe a Mad Season tribute thing
    -Mudhoney
    -Green River (of course)
    -STP
    -Smashing Pumpkins
    -Janes Addiction
    -Rage Against the Machine
    -Foo Fighters (not nirvana but the closest connection)
    -Nine Inch Nails (same time period, not really "grunge")
    -Red Hot Chili Peppers

    yah... that would be sweet... lets start one of our famous petitions :D


    Can we add Candlebox to that? Ill sign it after they are added....
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  • Can we add Candlebox to that? Ill sign it after they are added....
    of course! lets add sponge, toad the wet sprocket, seven mary three, the afghan whigs, jesus and mary chain, bush, dinosaur jr, and guns n roses too
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  • i hate comparing musicians...but i think its fair to say that both jeff ament and robert deleo are two of the best bass guitarists out there. I love DeLeo's "James Jamerson" motown style though
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    he's good, but Jeff's the master
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  • btb002btb002 Posts: 183
    I'm a huge Pearl Jam fan. And they are my favorite band of all time. That being said, if you don't think Robert is better than Jeff, you're just fooling yourself. Robert was the main song writer for a band that maintained superstar status in probably the most competitive time for rock in history. Not trying to demean Jeff in anyway. Robert DeLeo is just one of the most underrated song writers pretty much ever. Nothing Jeff has written, with the exception of Jeremy, can hold up to his songs.

    -Creep, Plush, Crackerman, Interstate Love Song, Kitchen and Candybars, Big Bang Baby, Lady Picture Show, Down, and the highly underrated, almost criminally ignored, Glide. These are songs where he receives all musical credit, with the exception of the words.

    His songs are always the most throughly composed, you think Jeff could write any music even close to Interstate Love Song, Kitchen and Candybars, or Glide?
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  • btb002 wrote:
    I'm a huge Pearl Jam fan. And they are my favorite band of all time. That being said, if you don't think Robert is better than Jeff, you're just fooling yourself. Robert was the main song writer for a band that maintained superstar status in probably the most competitive time for rock in history. Not trying to demean Jeff in anyway. Robert DeLeo is just one of the most underrated song writers pretty much ever. Nothing Jeff has written, with the exception of Jeremy, can hold up to his songs.

    -Creep, Plush, Crackerman, Interstate Love Song, Kitchen and Candybars, Big Bang Baby, Lady Picture Show, Down, and the highly underrated, almost criminally ignored, Glide. These are songs where he receives all musical credit, with the exception of the words.

    His songs are always the most throughly composed, you think Jeff could write any music even close to Interstate Love Song, Kitchen and Candybars, or Glide?

    i couldn't have said it better myself.
  • RicsardRicsard Posts: 1,933
    btb002 wrote:
    I'm a huge Pearl Jam fan. And they are my favorite band of all time. That being said, if you don't think Robert is better than Jeff, you're just fooling yourself. Robert was the main song writer for a band that maintained superstar status in probably the most competitive time for rock in history. Not trying to demean Jeff in anyway. Robert DeLeo is just one of the most underrated song writers pretty much ever. Nothing Jeff has written, with the exception of Jeremy, can hold up to his songs.

    -Creep, Plush, Crackerman, Interstate Love Song, Kitchen and Candybars, Big Bang Baby, Lady Picture Show, Down, and the highly underrated, almost criminally ignored, Glide. These are songs where he receives all musical credit, with the exception of the words.

    His songs are always the most throughly composed, you think Jeff could write any music even close to Interstate Love Song, Kitchen and Candybars, or Glide?

    I am still voting for Jeff
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    btb002 wrote:
    I'm a huge Pearl Jam fan. And they are my favorite band of all time. That being said, if you don't think Robert is better than Jeff, you're just fooling yourself. Robert was the main song writer for a band that maintained superstar status in probably the most competitive time for rock in history. Not trying to demean Jeff in anyway. Robert DeLeo is just one of the most underrated song writers pretty much ever. Nothing Jeff has written, with the exception of Jeremy, can hold up to his songs.

    -Creep, Plush, Crackerman, Interstate Love Song, Kitchen and Candybars, Big Bang Baby, Lady Picture Show, Down, and the highly underrated, almost criminally ignored, Glide. These are songs where he receives all musical credit, with the exception of the words.

    His songs are always the most throughly composed, you think Jeff could write any music even close to Interstate Love Song, Kitchen and Candybars, or Glide?

    yep. think he can write one better. you should check out sleight of hand ;).

    robert deleo is amazing and underrated. no doubt. and maybe technically he is even better, i don't know. however, i prefer jeff because yes, pj is my favorite band and i am alot more attached to jeffs songs. i honestly think most of jeff's are better then the ones you listed because pj is my favorite band. just naturally i tend to love their songs more then any other band. a great pj song is normally better then a great song by another band. but stp is excellent, and so is robert. kitchenware and candybars and glide are absolutely amazing. no doubt.
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    btb002 wrote:
    I'm a huge Pearl Jam fan. And they are my favorite band of all time. That being said, if you don't think Robert is better than Jeff, you're just fooling yourself. Robert was the main song writer for a band that maintained superstar status in probably the most competitive time for rock in history. Not trying to demean Jeff in anyway. Robert DeLeo is just one of the most underrated song writers pretty much ever. Nothing Jeff has written, with the exception of Jeremy, can hold up to his songs.

    -Creep, Plush, Crackerman, Interstate Love Song, Kitchen and Candybars, Big Bang Baby, Lady Picture Show, Down, and the highly underrated, almost criminally ignored, Glide. These are songs where he receives all musical credit, with the exception of the words.

    His songs are always the most throughly composed, you think Jeff could write any music even close to Interstate Love Song, Kitchen and Candybars, or Glide?

    Well said!
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  • JulienJulien Posts: 2,457
    I've always loved the bass lines in ST, especially in Tiny Music... but Jeff is great too. They both have their own style.
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  • From what I've read Jeff has always seemed to have been a bass player. Robert is actually a gutiar player converted to playing bass. Which personally as a bass player this isn't always a good thing. Because to me a converted bass player tends to do to much. But I think Robert does a fantastic job. And prefer to play more walk type likes like Robert does. But don't get me wrong I love what Jeff does period. And if he ever wants to get rid of that Modulous Silvertone shaped bass, I'd love to take it off his hands. Of course I'd have to swap out the pick ups on it!
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  • http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=EIQf_3Cw6Q4

    some awesome bass work on this bad boy, fucking wicked performance from STP
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 10,479
    i hate comparing musicians...but i think its fair to say that both jeff ament and robert deleo are two of the best bass guitarists out there. I love DeLeo's "James Jamerson" motown style though

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  • rhcpjam1029rhcpjam1029 Posts: 1,918
    sgossard3 wrote:
    ok... i was just thinking about this some more... who wouldnt go see this lineup?

    -Pearl Jam
    -Soundgarden
    -Temple of the Dog (of course)
    -AIC
    -maybe a Mad Season tribute thing
    -Mudhoney
    -Green River (of course)
    -STP
    -Smashing Pumpkins
    -Janes Addiction
    -Rage Against the Machine
    -Foo Fighters (not nirvana but the closest connection)
    -Nine Inch Nails (same time period, not really "grunge")
    -Red Hot Chili Peppers

    yah... that would be sweet... lets start one of our famous petitions :D

    holy shit dude you just posted my top favorite bands of all time. thanks.
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  • JulienJulien Posts: 2,457
    http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=EIQf_3Cw6Q4

    some awesome bass work on this bad boy, fucking wicked performance from STP
    Awesome ! I got chills looking at that video. I hope they will reform and come in Europe...
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  • Julien wrote:
    Awesome ! I got chills looking at that video. I hope they will reform and come in Europe...

    Yeah the energy from the crowd at that show was insane!
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