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  • JaneNY
    JaneNY Posts: 4,438
    In the time we live in, people lose jobs for way less - people have lost jobs for posting something on facebook. We may not like it but that's the way it is. Anyone with common sense knows you don't trash talk the boss in public if you'd like to keep your job. I am eagerly awaiting my issue of said rag, and look forward to reading the article. Replacing him with Petraeus is a brilliant move however.
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  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    JaneNY wrote:
    In the time we live in, people lose jobs for way less - people have lost jobs for posting something on facebook. We may not like it but that's the way it is. Anyone with common sense knows you don't trash talk the boss in public if you'd like to keep your job. I am eagerly awaiting my issue of said rag, and look forward to reading the article. Replacing him with Petraeus is a brilliant move however.

    I'm expecting the magazine to sell out fast! I think a lot of folks are anxiously waiting....I know I am....
    :?
  • Stypo420
    Stypo420 Posts: 519
    Kudos to RS for printing this story. As we all have learned by now this type of talk is forbidden by the military code of conduct. so I say good for RS for bringing it to light because NBC's parent GE wouldn't want to loose any defense contracts.
  • WM31482
    WM31482 New York, NY Posts: 563
    Dirtie_Frank wrote:
    Any way RS is a rag. I had a thread that was locked because of bickering, they did not even have one PJ song in the top 500, when the likes of R Kelly and Lady Gaga are in it.


    you need to give that up already... seriously who cares that much...
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    Godfather. wrote:
    cool, thanks for the info tony and like I said the general got what he had coming but I still think the reporter messed up, I could be wrong but this wouldn't have happened back in the day because reporters knew what lines not to cross....yea yea.. I learned that on the history channel :D

    Godfather.


    c'mon man, this isn't the cuban missile crisis...it's a pissed off general popping off about his commander in chief on the record...no self respecting journalist would pass on this one...regardless of his political leanings
  • WM31482
    WM31482 New York, NY Posts: 563
    JR8805 wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    rollingstone should have never printed that story knowing that a man could loose his command because of it.
    back in the old day's this would have never happend , the media knew what and what not to print.. I will never buy rollingstone again.

    Godfather.


    I find it kind of amazing that a person can say this and actually be enough of a fan to be a member of ten club-

    have you ever actually been to a pearl jam concert?
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    JaneNY wrote:
    In the time we live in, people lose jobs for way less - people have lost jobs for posting something on facebook. We may not like it but that's the way it is. Anyone with common sense knows you don't trash talk the boss in public if you'd like to keep your job. I am eagerly awaiting my issue of said rag, and look forward to reading the article. Replacing him with Petraeus is a brilliant move however.

    you all are right and I'm not arguing that at all I just feel the reporter could have kept his mouth shut about what ever it is McCrystal said that was so bad...but maybe Petraeus will be the guy to help bring the crap to an end (war).

    Godfather.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    WM31482 wrote:
    JR8805 wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    rollingstone should have never printed that story knowing that a man could loose his command because of it.
    back in the old day's this would have never happend , the media knew what and what not to print.. I will never buy rollingstone again.

    Godfather.


    I find it kind of amazing that a person can say this and actually be enough of a fan to be a member of ten club-

    have you ever actually been to a pearl jam concert?

    what ?????? ! what are some you kind of kook that lets their favorite band control their interest and thoughts ?
    get a grip man, PJ is one of the more tallented bands I have heard in a long time and ONE of my favorites and no I have not had the opertunity to see them live yet, please save your high school drama for someone else.
    :crazy:

    Godfather.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    norm wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    cool, thanks for the info tony and like I said the general got what he had coming but I still think the reporter messed up, I could be wrong but this wouldn't have happened back in the day because reporters knew what lines not to cross....yea yea.. I learned that on the history channel :D

    Godfather.


    c'mon man, this isn't the cuban missile crisis...it's a pissed off general popping off about his commander in chief on the record...no self respecting journalist would pass on this one...regardless of his political leanings

    sorry Norm I'm a old school guy who grew up learning to keep my mouth shut and I don't disagree with you or the others about this,it just pisses me off that this reporter would rat out a military general over a comment he recorded, things like this could have a adverse effect on more people than just McCrystal..not that they will this time but still what else will this reporter leek out that could have worse repercussions ?

    Godfather.
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Godfather. wrote:
    norm wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    cool, thanks for the info tony and like I said the general got what he had coming but I still think the reporter messed up, I could be wrong but this wouldn't have happened back in the day because reporters knew what lines not to cross....yea yea.. I learned that on the history channel :D

    Godfather.


    c'mon man, this isn't the cuban missile crisis...it's a pissed off general popping off about his commander in chief on the record...no self respecting journalist would pass on this one...regardless of his political leanings

    sorry Norm I'm a old school guy who grew up learning to keep my mouth shut and I don't disagree with you or the others about this,it just pisses me off that this reporter would rat out a military general over a comment he recorded, things like this could have a adverse effect on more people than just McCrystal..not that they will this time but still what else will this reporter leek out that could have worse repercussions ?

    Godfather.

    I still don't see how you can blame the reporter on this one... Any reporter doing and interview would have written those comments. Great, you grew up learning to keep your mouth shut... but by job description, a reporter is paid to speak/write, not keep his/her mouth shut. Like said above, this wasn't sitting on a story about the Cuban Missile Crisis or anything, this was a General's comments that he knowingly made to a reporter and showed no regret in doing so.

    The reporter said he fact checked with McCrystal afterward, and there was no hesitation confirming what was said... And worse was said "off the record". So, it seems to me that either McCrystal was just so frustrated with civilian leadership that he didn't care, or that he was looking for a way out of his position. A career military man and four star General doesn't make that sort of careless mistake without knowing it would be printed, and knowing the consequences. Every single military talking head I've seen on TV the night before he was relieved, said that McCrystal had to go... They knew what action had to be taken, and you gotta bet that McCrystal did too.
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  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    personally Godfather, i'd be a little more concerned that the now ex Commander of the International Security Assistance Force was such a blabbermouth and didn't have enough common sense to know that his comments would clearly be deemed to be out of line.

    lets hope he has been a lot more selective in regards to security when he has been shooting his mouth off.

    just a thought of course.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Bry my opinion is what it is man and I'm not changing it,no disrespect to you or anybody else that side with the reporter, that also is what it is right ..it's all good and I just gave my opinion.
    fact is I think the media has waaay to much power,they have a great influence on the world and how the people see and hear the current events and in my opinion they should be careful what and how they report in the news.

    Godfather.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    TriumphantAngel wrote:
    personally Godfather, i'd be a little more concerned that the now ex Commander of the International Security Assistance Force was such a blabbermouth and didn't have enough common sense to know that his comments would clearly be deemed to be out of line.

    lets hope he has been a lot more selective in regards to security when he has been shooting his mouth off.

    just a thought of course.

    good point I agree.

    Godfather.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    TriumphantAngel wrote:
    personally Godfather, i'd be a little more concerned that the now ex Commander of the International Security Assistance Force was such a blabbermouth and didn't have enough common sense to know that his comments would clearly be deemed to be out of line.

    lets hope he has been a lot more selective in regards to security when he has been shooting his mouth off.

    just a thought of course.
    ...
    Someone should have given General McCrystal a copy of 'Almost Famous' to review.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,305
    Cosmo wrote:
    TriumphantAngel wrote:
    personally Godfather, i'd be a little more concerned that the now ex Commander of the International Security Assistance Force was such a blabbermouth and didn't have enough common sense to know that his comments would clearly be deemed to be out of line.

    lets hope he has been a lot more selective in regards to security when he has been shooting his mouth off.

    just a thought of course.
    ...
    Someone should have given General McCrystal a copy of 'Almost Famous' to review.
    That is exactly what I first thought! At least he didn't stand on a roof and announce to his staff that he was a golden god.
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  • breath123
    breath123 Posts: 397
    Godfather. wrote:
    rollingstone should have never printed that story knowing that a man could loose his command because of it.
    back in the old day's this would have never happend , the media knew what and what not to print.. I will never buy rollingstone again.

    Godfather.

    I got three words for you:

    Woodward and Bernstein

    where would you like me to stick the fork in you, you're sooo done!

    (google "Woodward and Bernstein" if you don't know the reference, perhaps "journalism")
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    breath123 wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    rollingstone should have never printed that story knowing that a man could loose his command because of it.
    back in the old day's this would have never happend , the media knew what and what not to print.. I will never buy rollingstone again.

    Godfather.

    I got three words for you:

    Woodward and Bernstein

    where would you like me to stick the fork in you, you're sooo done!

    (google "Woodward and Bernstein" if you don't know the reference, perhaps "journalism")


    :o OOOOOOO and you can count too !

    so whats your point ?

    Godfather.
  • breath123
    breath123 Posts: 397
    Godfather. wrote:
    breath123 wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    rollingstone should have never printed that story knowing that a man could loose his command because of it.
    back in the old day's this would have never happend , the media knew what and what not to print.. I will never buy rollingstone again.

    Godfather.

    I got three words for you:

    Woodward and Bernstein

    where would you like me to stick the fork in you, you're sooo done!

    (google "Woodward and Bernstein" if you don't know the reference, perhaps "journalism")


    :o OOOOOOO and you can count too !

    so whats your point ?

    Godfather.

    you see, in the early seventies there was a President named Richard Nixon who lost his job because of an article written by Two reporters named Bob Woodward (republican) and Carl Bernstein.

    It's freedom of the press plain and simple, it's in the Bill of rights in the constitution. You know, that document conservatives follow in theory but actually hate when it goes against their personal opinions.

    Don't worry, McChrystal will be fine. He'll have a book out soon and a nice cozy spot on Fox soon enough.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    were they around during the Kennedy era ? you know when JFK was banging Miss Monroe or how about the presidents before JFK.? who made deals with the mafia ?
    there was lots of shady stuff during those years that the reporters did not dare put to print..they knew better.
    we can go back and forth all day ...dose it matter ? you will not change my opinion.

    Godfather.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    Godfather. wrote:
    were they around during the Kennedy era ? you know when JFK was banging Miss Monroe or how about the presidents before JFK.? who made deals with the mafia ?
    there was lots of shady stuff during those years that the reporters did not dare put to print..they knew better.
    we can go back and forth all day ...dose it matter ? you will not change my opinion.

    Godfather.
    ...
    Q. You know who should have kept his mouth shut?
    A. General McChrystal.
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