personally Godfather, i'd be a little more concerned that the now ex Commander of the International Security Assistance Force was such a blabbermouth and didn't have enough common sense to know that his comments would clearly be deemed to be out of line.
lets hope he has been a lot more selective in regards to security when he has been shooting his mouth off.
Bry my opinion is what it is man and I'm not changing it,no disrespect to you or anybody else that side with the reporter, that also is what it is right ..it's all good and I just gave my opinion.
fact is I think the media has waaay to much power,they have a great influence on the world and how the people see and hear the current events and in my opinion they should be careful what and how they report in the news.
personally Godfather, i'd be a little more concerned that the now ex Commander of the International Security Assistance Force was such a blabbermouth and didn't have enough common sense to know that his comments would clearly be deemed to be out of line.
lets hope he has been a lot more selective in regards to security when he has been shooting his mouth off.
personally Godfather, i'd be a little more concerned that the now ex Commander of the International Security Assistance Force was such a blabbermouth and didn't have enough common sense to know that his comments would clearly be deemed to be out of line.
lets hope he has been a lot more selective in regards to security when he has been shooting his mouth off.
just a thought of course.
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Someone should have given General McCrystal a copy of 'Almost Famous' to review.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
personally Godfather, i'd be a little more concerned that the now ex Commander of the International Security Assistance Force was such a blabbermouth and didn't have enough common sense to know that his comments would clearly be deemed to be out of line.
lets hope he has been a lot more selective in regards to security when he has been shooting his mouth off.
just a thought of course.
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Someone should have given General McCrystal a copy of 'Almost Famous' to review.
That is exactly what I first thought! At least he didn't stand on a roof and announce to his staff that he was a golden god.
rollingstone should have never printed that story knowing that a man could loose his command because of it.
back in the old day's this would have never happend , the media knew what and what not to print.. I will never buy rollingstone again.
Godfather.
I got three words for you:
Woodward and Bernstein
where would you like me to stick the fork in you, you're sooo done!
(google "Woodward and Bernstein" if you don't know the reference, perhaps "journalism")
rollingstone should have never printed that story knowing that a man could loose his command because of it.
back in the old day's this would have never happend , the media knew what and what not to print.. I will never buy rollingstone again.
Godfather.
I got three words for you:
Woodward and Bernstein
where would you like me to stick the fork in you, you're sooo done!
(google "Woodward and Bernstein" if you don't know the reference, perhaps "journalism")
rollingstone should have never printed that story knowing that a man could loose his command because of it.
back in the old day's this would have never happend , the media knew what and what not to print.. I will never buy rollingstone again.
Godfather.
I got three words for you:
Woodward and Bernstein
where would you like me to stick the fork in you, you're sooo done!
(google "Woodward and Bernstein" if you don't know the reference, perhaps "journalism")
OOOOOOO and you can count too !
so whats your point ?
Godfather.
you see, in the early seventies there was a President named Richard Nixon who lost his job because of an article written by Two reporters named Bob Woodward (republican) and Carl Bernstein.
It's freedom of the press plain and simple, it's in the Bill of rights in the constitution. You know, that document conservatives follow in theory but actually hate when it goes against their personal opinions.
Don't worry, McChrystal will be fine. He'll have a book out soon and a nice cozy spot on Fox soon enough.
were they around during the Kennedy era ? you know when JFK was banging Miss Monroe or how about the presidents before JFK.? who made deals with the mafia ?
there was lots of shady stuff during those years that the reporters did not dare put to print..they knew better.
we can go back and forth all day ...dose it matter ? you will not change my opinion.
were they around during the Kennedy era ? you know when JFK was banging Miss Monroe or how about the presidents before JFK.? who made deals with the mafia ?
there was lots of shady stuff during those years that the reporters did not dare put to print..they knew better.
we can go back and forth all day ...dose it matter ? you will not change my opinion.
Godfather.
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Q. You know who should have kept his mouth shut?
A. General McChrystal.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
rollingstone should have never printed that story knowing that a man could loose his command because of it.
back in the old day's this would have never happend , the media knew what and what not to print.. I will never buy rollingstone again.
Godfather.
uh no. we the people have a right to know if there are problems in the military command. you are crazy for thinking reporters who keep quite are helping society. in fact, just the opposite.
and why the hell does anyone buy Rolling Stone anyway?
Maybe...General McChrystal just wants to let the people know how incompetent this administration is…showing up for a meeting not prepared, WTF?
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
were they around during the Kennedy era ? you know when JFK was banging Miss Monroe or how about the presidents before JFK.? who made deals with the mafia ?
there was lots of shady stuff during those years that the reporters did not dare put to print..they knew better.
we can go back and forth all day ...dose it matter ? you will not change my opinion.
Godfather.
g.
gotta ask
"they knew better"
is it better to not expose the "shady" deals with the mafia?
is it better to not expose the "shady" corruption in government?
what kind of "news" do you want?
what kind of corruption are you ok with?
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
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were they around during the Kennedy era ? you know when JFK was banging Miss Monroe or how about the presidents before JFK.? who made deals with the mafia ?
there was lots of shady stuff during those years that the reporters did not dare put to print..they knew better.
we can go back and forth all day ...dose it matter ? you will not change my opinion.
Godfather.
doesn't change that you are wrong either.
Kennedy was smart enough to shut the fuck up to reporters and keep things on the DL.
were they around during the Kennedy era ? you know when JFK was banging Miss Monroe or how about the presidents before JFK.? who made deals with the mafia ?
there was lots of shady stuff during those years that the reporters did not dare put to print..they knew better.
we can go back and forth all day ...dose it matter ? you will not change my opinion.
Godfather.
g.
gotta ask
"they knew better"
is it better to not expose the "shady" deals with the mafia?
is it better to not expose the "shady" corruption in government?
some things are better left unsaid...and some are not.
were they around during the Kennedy era ? you know when JFK was banging Miss Monroe or how about the presidents before JFK.? who made deals with the mafia ?
there was lots of shady stuff during those years that the reporters did not dare put to print..they knew better.
we can go back and forth all day ...dose it matter ? you will not change my opinion.
Godfather.
doesn't change that you are wrong either.
Kennedy was smart enough to shut the fuck up to reporters and keep things on the DL.
comparing Monroe to Watergate? Brilliant.
prove me wrong, and btw there were photos of Kennedy and Monroe that didn't make the mag's.
who's comparing ?...you and your brilliant watergate post "you are so done" how long did it take you dig that up from the internet, also not being able to "shut the fuck up" is what got John and Bobby dead, I have 3 words for you...GET A CLUE.
I don't think JFK was breaking any laws banging Marlyn Monroe...
Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
i say kudos to rolling stone for exposing this guy for who he really is. rolling stone has always pushed the envelope and has always presented stories like this. if the guy was more disciplined he would have known to shut up when the reporter was there with a running tape recorder. i am of the opinion that he wanted out of the job. what is a way to save face, resign on your own and admit failure and blame others or do something so incompetent that you would have to be fired??
rolling stone has always been out in front on the issues, going all the way back to vietnam and several of their writers have won journalistic awards. Hunter S. Thompson was one of them. I know for a fact that they recently won awards for their coverage of the stolen 2004 election in ohio, the coverage of hurricane katrina, the coverage of the 2008 presidential campaign, their coverage of environmental issues and corporate/industrial farming, and Matt Tiabbi has won a few prestigious awards for his work. for one to dismiss it as a "rag" is proof that that person has never read a rolling stone in the last 30 years.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
as for the rest of the incoherency of your post, I am willing to let it be just that.
????? you have nothing there, letter of the law has always been there but unwritten laws of journalism have changed, it seems every reporter is out to dig up dirt on anybody they can, why do you insist on pushing this stuff ? , are you saying that thing's were not different with reporters back in the days of JFK and earlier ? and incoherency? how about a blind eye to history and the truth you seem to have,you have not proved me wrong and you can't but it really dose not matter,thing's were different and reporters had more respect for their subjects and their profession now it's a free for all to see who can expose the most dirt no matter how minor or how harmful it is to the subject or the nation and the people, times have changed and if you are too young to see that then do some history and have a look back you will find it very interesting.
yellow journalism is as old as journalism. they were diging up dirt on Andrew Jackson's wife for being a adultress slut back in the day. come on man.
but they didnt dig up anything on the General, he freaking told them! in fact he went out of his way to get his derision of the commander in chief in print so he could pretend to be a rockstar! his ass is lucky he wasnt canned for insubordination.
you make it sound like he was tricked. he knew he was on the record and knew exactly what he was doing.
you're seriously going to cite fox news in a thread where you're decrying the ethics of journalism?
indeed!
at least the rolling stone reporter went on the record, all fox has to say is "some say" and they can spew any crap they want. They should just say "here's some stuff we made up". it doesn't matter because it's what their audiences want to believe anyway.
you're seriously going to cite fox news in a thread where you're decrying the ethics of journalism?
indeed!
at least the rolling stone reporter went on the record, all fox has to say is "some say" and they can spew any crap they want. They should just say "here's some stuff we made up". it doesn't matter because it's what their audiences want to believe anyway.
Obama lowered taxes btw.
I knew I could get you to respond to this....your tooo ez.
have a nice day Breath123, serious question; what taxes were lowered and how much ?
As to this whole "unspoken agreement" business: the reason Lara Logan thinks this is because she's like pretty much every other "reputable" journalist in this country, in that she suffers from a profound confusion about who she's supposed to be working for. I know this from my years covering presidential campaigns, where the same dynamic applies. Hey, assholes: you do not work for the people you're covering! Jesus, is this concept that fucking hard? On the campaign trail, I watch reporters nod solemnly as they hear about the hundreds of millions of dollars candidates X and Y and Z collect from the likes of Citigroup and Raytheon and Archer Daniels Midland, and it blows my mind that they never seem to connect the dots and grasp where all that money is going. The answer, you idiots, is that it's buying advertising! People like George Bush, John McCain, Barack Obama, and General McChrystal for that matter, they can afford to buy their own P.R. — and they do, in ways both honest and dishonest, visible and invisible.
They don't need your help, and you're giving it to them anyway, because you just want to be part of the club so so badly. Disgustingly, that's really what it comes down to. Most of these reporters just want to be inside the ropeline so badly, they want to be able to say they had that beer with Hillary Clinton in a bowling alley in Scranton or whatever, that it colors their whole worldview. God forbid some important person think you're not playing for the right team!
Meanwhile, the people who don't have the resources to find out the truth and get it out in front of the public's eyes, your readers/viewers, you're supposed to be working for them — and they're not getting your help. What the hell are we doing in Afghanistan? Is it worth all the bloodshed and the hatred? Who are the people running this thing, what is their agenda, and is that agenda the same thing we voted for? By the severely unlikely virtue of a drunken accident we get a tiny glimpse of an answer to some of these vital questions, but instead of cheering this as a great break for our profession, a waytago moment, one so-called reputable journalist after another lines up to protest the leak and attack the reporter for doing his job. God, do you all suck!
"I thought I'd seen everything when I read David Brooks saying out loud in a New York Times column that reporters should sit on damaging comments to save their sources from their own idiocy. But now we get CBS News Chief Foreign Correspondent Lara Logan slamming our own Michael Hastings on CNN's "Reliable Sources" program, agreeing that the Rolling Stone reporter violated an "unspoken agreement" that journalists are not supposed to "embarrass [the troops] by reporting insults and banter."
WOW !! that was a cool read Norm "unspoken agreement".
so much about being reporter we don't know, dose this back case ?
Comments
lets hope he has been a lot more selective in regards to security when he has been shooting his mouth off.
just a thought of course.
fact is I think the media has waaay to much power,they have a great influence on the world and how the people see and hear the current events and in my opinion they should be careful what and how they report in the news.
Godfather.
good point I agree.
Godfather.
Someone should have given General McCrystal a copy of 'Almost Famous' to review.
Hail, Hail!!!
I got three words for you:
Woodward and Bernstein
where would you like me to stick the fork in you, you're sooo done!
(google "Woodward and Bernstein" if you don't know the reference, perhaps "journalism")
so whats your point ?
Godfather.
you see, in the early seventies there was a President named Richard Nixon who lost his job because of an article written by Two reporters named Bob Woodward (republican) and Carl Bernstein.
It's freedom of the press plain and simple, it's in the Bill of rights in the constitution. You know, that document conservatives follow in theory but actually hate when it goes against their personal opinions.
Don't worry, McChrystal will be fine. He'll have a book out soon and a nice cozy spot on Fox soon enough.
there was lots of shady stuff during those years that the reporters did not dare put to print..they knew better.
we can go back and forth all day ...dose it matter ? you will not change my opinion.
Godfather.
Q. You know who should have kept his mouth shut?
A. General McChrystal.
Hail, Hail!!!
and why the hell does anyone buy Rolling Stone anyway?
To find out what Lady Gaga is up to?
...
Did I win?
Hail, Hail!!!
ed uses it to wipe his ass so there are some uses for it
g.
gotta ask
"they knew better"
is it better to not expose the "shady" deals with the mafia?
is it better to not expose the "shady" corruption in government?
what kind of "news" do you want?
what kind of corruption are you ok with?
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
doesn't change that you are wrong either.
Kennedy was smart enough to shut the fuck up to reporters and keep things on the DL.
comparing Monroe to Watergate? Brilliant.
prove me wrong, and btw there were photos of Kennedy and Monroe that didn't make the mag's.
who's comparing ?...you and your brilliant watergate post "you are so done" how long did it take you dig that up from the internet, also not being able to "shut the fuck up" is what got John and Bobby dead, I have 3 words for you...GET A CLUE.
Godfather.
rolling stone has always been out in front on the issues, going all the way back to vietnam and several of their writers have won journalistic awards. Hunter S. Thompson was one of them. I know for a fact that they recently won awards for their coverage of the stolen 2004 election in ohio, the coverage of hurricane katrina, the coverage of the 2008 presidential campaign, their coverage of environmental issues and corporate/industrial farming, and Matt Tiabbi has won a few prestigious awards for his work. for one to dismiss it as a "rag" is proof that that person has never read a rolling stone in the last 30 years.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IcZ2yBcvFQ
sure, here you go. http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/cons ... endment01/
as for the rest of the incoherency of your post, I am willing to let it be just that.
????? you have nothing there, letter of the law has always been there but unwritten laws of journalism have changed, it seems every reporter is out to dig up dirt on anybody they can, why do you insist on pushing this stuff ? , are you saying that thing's were not different with reporters back in the days of JFK and earlier ? and incoherency? how about a blind eye to history and the truth you seem to have,you have not proved me wrong and you can't but it really dose not matter,thing's were different and reporters had more respect for their subjects and their profession now it's a free for all to see who can expose the most dirt no matter how minor or how harmful it is to the subject or the nation and the people, times have changed and if you are too young to see that then do some history and have a look back you will find it very interesting.
Godfather.
but they didnt dig up anything on the General, he freaking told them! in fact he went out of his way to get his derision of the commander in chief in print so he could pretend to be a rockstar! his ass is lucky he wasnt canned for insubordination.
you make it sound like he was tricked. he knew he was on the record and knew exactly what he was doing.
Godfather.
Godfather.
you're seriously going to cite fox news in a thread where you're decrying the ethics of journalism?
at least the rolling stone reporter went on the record, all fox has to say is "some say" and they can spew any crap they want. They should just say "here's some stuff we made up". it doesn't matter because it's what their audiences want to believe anyway.
Obama lowered taxes btw.
I knew I could get you to respond to this....your tooo ez.
have a nice day Breath123, serious question; what taxes were lowered and how much ?
Godfather.
They don't need your help, and you're giving it to them anyway, because you just want to be part of the club so so badly. Disgustingly, that's really what it comes down to. Most of these reporters just want to be inside the ropeline so badly, they want to be able to say they had that beer with Hillary Clinton in a bowling alley in Scranton or whatever, that it colors their whole worldview. God forbid some important person think you're not playing for the right team!
Meanwhile, the people who don't have the resources to find out the truth and get it out in front of the public's eyes, your readers/viewers, you're supposed to be working for them — and they're not getting your help. What the hell are we doing in Afghanistan? Is it worth all the bloodshed and the hatred? Who are the people running this thing, what is their agenda, and is that agenda the same thing we voted for? By the severely unlikely virtue of a drunken accident we get a tiny glimpse of an answer to some of these vital questions, but instead of cheering this as a great break for our profession, a waytago moment, one so-called reputable journalist after another lines up to protest the leak and attack the reporter for doing his job. God, do you all suck!
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/ma ... 2137/83512
WOW !! that was a cool read Norm "unspoken agreement".
so much about being reporter we don't know, dose this back case ?
Godfather.