Ten Club Ticket Process

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  • PearlJamVixen
    PearlJamVixen Posts: 88
    JRNYC,
    I'm not sure how the system I proposed is selfish? As I see it, all numbers get an opportunity to buy tickets....so...not really sure how that's selfish.... :?
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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    PearlJamVixen wrote:
    As a long time fan and Ten Club member (member number 94xxx), I am definitely NOT happy with the current ticketing system. I got shut out trying to buy tickets for the 2010 MSG shows and also the 2008 Boston Eddie Vedder solo shows. Both experiences were very frustrating and upsetting, to say the least. I have a really fast internet connection, so that was not my problem in either instance. And, I understand that the 2010 MSG shows were in high demand, but still... I don't think it's fair for someone who has loyally paid membership dues for 15+ years to be shut out like that.

    I never had a problem with the mail system, EVER. But, I'm not sure the Ten Club should go back to that either because there seems to be potential flaws with that system as well.

    After getting shut out for the 2010 MSG shows, I emailed the Ten Club with an idea (I didn't receive a response, of course) which was this: online ticket purchase in order of the seniority of your Ten Club membership number. For example, member numbers 1-99,999 (and only those members) are able to buy tickets at 1:00 pm for x show on the pre-sale day (meaning you enter your number during the presale process and if it is not in that number range, the system would bump you out). Member numbers 100,000 to 199,999 (and only those members) are able to buy tickets at 3:00 pm on that sale day...and so on. There could still be a seat lottery, too. I think that would be a really fair system that would cut down on server traffic, and still be efficient and fair to everyone.

    In any case, I hope they improve the ticketing system, because it currently sucks.
    your 25 $ is the same as mine,as all fans..you have low number,great. u get better seats...
    but tickets is fair ,all fans to have their chances..if u have 480.000- number you wouldnt say the same
    the system now is fair..
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  • Dercheef
    Dercheef Germany Posts: 732
    PearlJamVixen wrote:
    JRNYC,
    I'm not sure how the system I proposed is selfish? As I see it, all numbers get an opportunity to buy tickets....so...not really sure how that's selfish.... :?
    It's sellfish because the 10c ticket allotment would sell out (atleast in NYC and Boston) before every number had the chance to buy tickets. The lower your number is, the bigger is your chance of getting them and since your number is pretty low it's sellfish.
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  • PearlJamVixen
    PearlJamVixen Posts: 88
    Dimitrispearljam,
    Again, still not sure why/how what I proposed is unfair. If there were a block of tickets reserved for each membership number group (the SAME number of tickets available for each group)...how is that not fair???? If each group is able to purchase from a pool of say, 1000 tickets (or whatever)...why would it matter what your number is??
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,126
    mudhoney_253 wrote:
    Get_Right wrote:
    comatose_253 wrote:
    Don't we have a lottery right now? Most folks get the tickets they want and some don't. Requesting tickets would be the same thing! Most would get the tickets they want and some wouldn't, but without sitting at a computer for days and hours trying.
    no
    the current system allows some users to get through and purchase tix while others cant get through

    If everyone just placed an order, how exactly would the tickets be distributed? We would never know the real answer-kinda like now with the front row lottery

    This sounds like pure chance . . . just like a lottery, some would get tickets and some would not.

    If you had 500 pairs of tickets and 600 orders or requests for tickets. You would randomly selected 500 and some would get tickets and some would not.

    What is the difference?
    the difference is that there is an additional variable-the person or machine doing the random selection
    now, it is pure chance, but there isnt some arbitrary person or computer selecting you
    you either get through or you dont. Who is doing the random selection in the true lottery? Thats the difference.
    Of course its a crap shoot either way, but you dont have someone selecting people out of a pool
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    PearlJamVixen wrote:
    Dimitrispearljam,
    Again, still not sure why/how what I proposed is unfair. If there were a block of tickets reserved for each membership number group (the SAME number of tickets available for each group)...how is that not fair???? If each group is able to purchase from a pool of say, 1000 tickets (or whatever)...why would it matter what your number is??
    its not fair to categorize fans like that...u are online and try for tickets all ok...u score ,lucky,not score unlucky..all from number 1 to 500000 must have the same chances..exable
    from 1-99999 there are less active members than 400.000 -500.000...if they split the sales..the first group has % better chance to get tickets than the last group...25 $me..25$ you..so all in the presale the same time with the same %
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    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,126
    mudhoney_253 wrote:
    No, flat out false. A lottery would give each member an equal chance at scoring tickets. Fans that have a faster computer, faster connection speed, or use multiple computers have a better chance at scoring tickets. The current system does not provide everyone and equal chance at the high demand shows.

    everybody has an equal chance to score a ticket


    the last thing I want is a random selection for each show-you will never know how they are allocated
    the online sale is simple and fair and you know almost immediately if you are in or out
    truthfully, it works great except for the shows in high demand
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,126
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    ...25 $me..25$ you..so all in the presale the same time with the same %
    exactly
    all members have an equal chance-simple and fair
  • PearlJamVixen
    PearlJamVixen Posts: 88
    Sorry Dimitri, but I don't agree. If you got shut out of 4 shows (EV Boston 1 & 2, MSG 1 & 2) and you had a low Ten Club number....you might think the current system sucks, too. I've paid my dues on time for over 15 years...is loyalty worth nothing???
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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    PearlJamVixen wrote:
    Sorry Dimitri, but I don't agree. If you got shut out of 4 shows (EV Boston 1 & 2, MSG 1 & 2) and you had a low Ten Club number....you might think the current system sucks, too. I've paid my dues on time for over 15 years...is loyalty worth nothing???
    worth..if u score tix better seats than me..,,is like i ask from 10c to secure me tix cos my membership lapse at 2015.layter than yours .and this would be unfair as well..its ok this system now..all pay membership,all the same % in the presale..but u have lower number?,,fair to have better seats,,i think its easy to understand it..and again if u was 480,000 or u scored tix in the last tour you wouldnt say this now..
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,426
    PearlJamVixen wrote:
    Sorry Dimitri, but I don't agree. If you got shut out of 4 shows (EV Boston 1 & 2, MSG 1 & 2) and you had a low Ten Club number....you might think the current system sucks, too. I've paid my dues on time for over 15 years...is loyalty worth nothing???
    Just because you've been paying your "dues " for 15 or so years means you get MORE than the specified contract with 10club? getting the opportunity to get better seats than those who joined after you and you want MORE than that? Fuck the loyalty arguement.

    Been a fan since the beginning . however due to life choices , didn't join til a couple years ago. WHERE'S the fan loyalty for me? hmmm? Shouldn't I "get" something for my loyalty in buying their music ALL these years? sometimes more than once? Yes I do/did. Enjoyment of the music that has sustaianed and sometimes carried me through.
    the system is what it is. they tour shorter, with more members vieing for tix. less supply and more demand. Get over it.
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  • BF89905
    BF89905 Posts: 1,447
    Dercheef wrote:
    PearlJamVixen wrote:
    JRNYC,
    I'm not sure how the system I proposed is selfish? As I see it, all numbers get an opportunity to buy tickets....so...not really sure how that's selfish.... :?
    It's sellfish because the 10c ticket allotment would sell out (atleast in NYC and Boston) before every number had the chance to buy tickets. The lower your number is, the bigger is your chance of getting them and since your number is pretty low it's sellfish.


    The Club sets aside "X" number of seats/pairs for each range of membership numbers.
  • PearlJamVixen
    PearlJamVixen Posts: 88
    Wow...the unmitigated rudeness is so...so...hmmm...what's the word? Oh yeah...classy....
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  • Mcam55
    Mcam55 Posts: 1,407
    PearlJamVixen wrote:
    Wow...the unmitigated rudeness is so...so...hmmm...what's the word? Oh yeah...classy....

    the sense of entitlement is so....whats the word...pathetic. Why dont we just reserve a seat for you on stage for every show since your a bigger fan than everyone else.
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,420
    PearlJamVixen wrote:
    Wow...the unmitigated rudeness is so...so...hmmm...what's the word? Oh yeah...classy....
    As a long time fanclub memeber I always get a kick out of the newer fanclub members getting so overwrought over concert tickets. Why not channel all this emotional energy into something really worthwhile.

    Do I have a sense of entitlement? no
    Do I believe in the seniority system? Yes
    When I won the lottery in STL was I happy? Yes..did I feel the need to win? NO
    Do I spport the way 10club does tickets? yes
    Does it work for everyone? No
    Can I help that I joined 16 yrs ago and kept up my membership every year? yes
    Will everyone ever be happy with the ticketing system? no

    PearlJamVixen....I happen to agree with you about the level of rudeness and for lack of a better term, anger. Definitely not so classy.

    Everyone take a deep breath and think about getting angry and upset over something truly important.
  • jrnyc
    jrnyc Posts: 537
    PearlJamVixen wrote:
    Dimitrispearljam,
    Again, still not sure why/how what I proposed is unfair. If there were a block of tickets reserved for each membership number group (the SAME number of tickets available for each group)...how is that not fair???? If each group is able to purchase from a pool of say, 1000 tickets (or whatever)...why would it matter what your number is??


    Your original post didnt say anything about a block of tickets for each membership group #.
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,126
    PearlJamVixen wrote:
    Sorry Dimitri, but I don't agree. If you got shut out of 4 shows (EV Boston 1 & 2, MSG 1 & 2) and you had a low Ten Club number....you might think the current system sucks, too. I've paid my dues on time for over 15 years...is loyalty worth nothing???
    dont hate the game, hate the players

    seriously, the system has actually gotten much better for the everyday show
    I believe that tickets are much harder to get than they were in 2003 and even 2006

    Sure seems like more and more people are trying to get tickets to fewer shows. Really, I think that is why many long time members got shut out for the first time.

    More shows is the answer. The ticket system, flawed as it is, is pretty damn good and would be even better if PJ did 50 shows each time out.
  • PearlJamVixen
    PearlJamVixen Posts: 88
    Bentleyspop, thanks for agreeing, re: the rudeness! :) I don't know why people just can't have a logical, calm discussion....if someone thinks what I proposed is unfair, that's fine...just state your opinion and back it up with a logical explanation...not so hard, right?
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  • PearlJamVixen
    PearlJamVixen Posts: 88
    jrnyc wrote:
    PearlJamVixen wrote:
    Dimitrispearljam,
    Again, still not sure why/how what I proposed is unfair. If there were a block of tickets reserved for each membership number group (the SAME number of tickets available for each group)...how is that not fair???? If each group is able to purchase from a pool of say, 1000 tickets (or whatever)...why would it matter what your number is??


    Your original post didnt say anything about a block of tickets for each membership group #.

    Yes, true, I didn't say that. But OF COURSE I would not expect the first few groups to get a monopoly on all of the available fan club tickets! That would be ridiculous!
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  • EchosNobodyHears
    EchosNobodyHears Posts: 583
    As a member with an extremely high number I think the current system is the best and fairest way to do it. My number is 423xxx and with any of these proposed systems i would have no chance of getting tickets to more than one show. I have seen 9 shows in my 2 years in 10c and would never be able to obtain all those tickets in an other method of ticket purchasing. How is it that I can get tickets to Philly and both MSGs no problem but you people that have put in your "time" cant. Just because your 40 and were there for the early years of the band doesnt mean that me at 21 shouldnt have as good of a chance to get tickets. Its bad enough that ill never sit up close unless I hit the "lottery." Because youve been a fan for 10 or 15 years doesnt mean that your any bigger fan than I am, it just means your older than I am. Im sure there are 2 year members on here how like the band more and know more about that band than people who are in there 10th year of membership.
    This isn't elementary school, its first come first serve. Time to grow up.
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