Scientology

Gern Blansten
Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,185
edited July 2013 in A Moving Train
I used to think that Scientology was just a tax dodge...a way for wealthy snobs to make tax deductible contributions to a "religious" organization while that organization provided them with benefits like travel/entertainment/etc

These people are fucked....

http://www.xenu.net/archive/infopack/6.htm

http://www.scientology.org/

Have any of you dug into this?
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  • Lizard
    Lizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    A few years ago I read about them strictly from the internet ---mostly anti-member boards-- to get their take. VERY WEIRD and you have to pay a lot of $$$$ to move up to the next level.

    I also recently was read about Mormonism since I was curious---they have some beliefs that are whack (to me)-- like the Earth is only 10,000 years old, Dinosaurs did not live on earth but God brought their bones over here (not sure why!!), the Garden of Eden was in MISSOURI somewhere and also, the sun is powered by some other planet!!!!!!!!!


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  • CJMST3K
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    ...on the first read, I thought Lizard say "Moronism". :lol:
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  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    Lizard wrote:
    Dinosaurs did not live on earth but God brought their bones over here (not sure why


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  • Lizard
    Lizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    Lizard wrote:
    Dinosaurs did not live on earth but God brought their bones over here (not sure why


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwskEE_Ks_g
    :lol::lol:
    Well thanks for that---now it ALL makes sense!!
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  • kl277374
    kl277374 Posts: 20
    The most interesting thing about it is that it began as a bet between L. Ron Hubbard and Philip K. Dick (Minority Report, among others). Or so I've heard. They were both writing students and they bet each other as to who could start a religion first.
    Urban legend? Maybe. But it's just too ridiculous to be less than skeptical. Kind of seems like the bet is a feasible explanation.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,185
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,305
    I worked with a guy in San Diego that tried to turn me on to Scientology. I knew enough about the origins that I wanted to stay clear of it. It's one thing to place your faith in events that took place 2,000 years ago. But I'm able to shoot holes in any religion that has come about in the last 100 years. The whole background story is just absurd.

    But I will say this, the scientologists all seem to be very happy and decent human beings. Maybe the real joke is on us . . .
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  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    All religions are absolutely ridiculous on some obvious level if you don't yourself believe them. Half the world believe in zombie's or talking snakes, yet this is the mark of Christianity and the Bible. :shock:
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,185
    yeah I always think it is interesting to hear christians say how ridiculous Scientology or the LDS beliefs are when they do the zombie thing
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • dcfaithful
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    Lizard wrote:
    I also recently was read about Mormonism since I was curious---they have some beliefs that are whack (to me)-- like the Earth is only 10,000 years old, Dinosaurs did not live on earth but God brought their bones over here (not sure why!!), the Garden of Eden was in MISSOURI somewhere and also, the sun is powered by some other planet!!!!!!!!!

    Jesus Christ...try living in Utah.

    Bill Hicks has a great bit on their belief of the Earth's age and Dinosaurs by the way.

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  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    Scientology is BRILLIANT
    observe any religion and you'll realise how much money you can make off its believers...
    now just hike up the prices and you're set.
    better business plan than creating google ;)
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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    yeah I always think it is interesting to hear christians say how ridiculous Scientology or the LDS beliefs are when they do the zombie thing

    Yes, don't you know Jesus was born by a virgin, crucified for our sins and rose from the dead. Extremely plausible.
  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    yeah I always think it is interesting to hear christians say how ridiculous Scientology or the LDS beliefs are when they do the zombie thing
    lol i've never heard someone put it that way
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,185
    haffajappa wrote:
    yeah I always think it is interesting to hear christians say how ridiculous Scientology or the LDS beliefs are when they do the zombie thing
    lol i've never heard someone put it that way

    heh....I didn't even get to the talking snakes and burning shrubbery yet!!
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    haffajappa wrote:
    yeah I always think it is interesting to hear christians say how ridiculous Scientology or the LDS beliefs are when they do the zombie thing
    lol i've never heard someone put it that way

    heh....I didn't even get to the talking snakes and burning shrubbery yet!!
    or that we were all populated by a form of inbreeding? :shock:
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  • http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/50824/


    Church of Scientology Probed by FBI Over Human Trafficking Claims: Report


    The Church of Scientology is under investigation by the FBI over allegations that it engaged in human trafficking, according to an exclusive report by Lawrence Wright of The New Yorker magazine. In other reports, the Church has denied such claims, saying the "complaint was resoundingly dismissed" by a judge.

    After interviewing former members of the church, including filmmaker Paul Haggis, Wright wrote that the L. Ron Hubbard-founded group is being investigated by the FBI over accusations that it unfairly treated workers.

    Citing court documents, the magazine alleged that Church leader David Miscavige engaged in violent acts against staff and members, claims that Miscavige and Scientology have denied.

    Wright, a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, reported that at Gold Base, a main church headquarters in the California desert, Miscavige instructed Scientology leaders to be "violent" and "aggressive" in disciplining members of the Sea Org, the group’s religious order.

    The New Yorker story also said the church subjected its members to forced labor camps.

    “Sea Org members who have ‘failed to fulfill their ecclesiastical responsibilities’ may be sent to one of the church’s several Rehabilitation Project Force locations,” the article said. “Defectors describe them as punitive reeducation camps.”

    Wright interviewed a former member, Claire Headley, who filed a lawsuit against the church.

    “Every last trace of my life, as I knew it, was thrown away,” she told Wright. “It was like living in George Orwell’s ‘1984.’”

    Citing former Scientology members, Wright also wrote that Miscavige drove around in fleets of luxury cars, flew on chartered jets, and lived a life of luxury. Wright noted that the Church also denied that these allegations were factual.

    The Australian obtained a statement from the church which rejected the accusations against it found in Wright’s article.

    "The Church [of Scientology] has never been advised of any government investigation, a fact The New Yorker knew before it went to print,” the church said in a statement obtained by the newspaper.

    “Moreover, the subject of the alleged investigation was recently raised in a lawsuit by the same individuals who are the sources for the article and the complaint was resoundingly dismissed by a Federal District Court Judge," it added.

    AOL News reported that the FBI has closed the case, which conflicts with Wright's claims that the probe is still open. "A federal law enforcement source told AOL News the investigation has fallen short and no criminal charges are expected to be filed," the report said.

    However, Wright maintained that two FBI sources close to the investigation "assured me that the case remains open."
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  • yeah I always think it is interesting to hear christians say how ridiculous Scientology or the LDS beliefs are when they do the zombie thing

    zombies?
    grace and peace
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,185
    samsonite wrote:
    yeah I always think it is interesting to hear christians say how ridiculous Scientology or the LDS beliefs are when they do the zombie thing

    zombies?

    def: a corpse brought to life

    Jesus = zombie
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • samsonite wrote:
    yeah I always think it is interesting to hear christians say how ridiculous Scientology or the LDS beliefs are when they do the zombie thing

    zombies?

    def: a corpse brought to life

    Jesus = zombie

    i see.

    we (christians) do believe some weird things. of course, if we dissect anyone's belief/worldview we'll find we ALL believe in some pretty weird things.
    grace and peace
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,822
    Lizard wrote:
    A few years ago I read about them strictly from the internet ---mostly anti-member boards-- to get their take. VERY WEIRD and you have to pay a lot of $$$$ to move up to the next level.

    I also recently was read about Mormonism since I was curious---they have some beliefs that are whack (to me)-- like the Earth is only 10,000 years old, Dinosaurs did not live on earth but God brought their bones over here (not sure why!!), the Garden of Eden was in MISSOURI somewhere and also, the sun is powered by some other planet!!!!!!!!!


    (cue the Twilight Zone music) :D

    If dinosaurs never lived here, how do they explain Fred Flintsone's crane at Mr. Slate's quarry?