does exercise really keep us healthy?

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edited February 2010 in All Encompassing Trip
yikes...
rarely read info like this...
http://health.nytimes.com/ref/health/he ... e-ess.html


In Brief:

While exercise can boost mood, its health benefits have been oversold.

Moderate exercise can reduce the risk of diabetes in people at risk. Exercise may reduce the risk of heart disease and breast and colon cancers.

Though the evidence is mixed, exercise may also provide benefits for people with osteoporosis.

Physical activity alone will not lead to sustained weight loss or reduce blood pressure or cholesterol.

Exercise has long been touted as the panacea for everything that ails you. For better health, simply walk for 20 or 30 minutes a day, boosters say — and you don’t even have to do it all at once. Count a few minutes here and a few there, and just add them up. Or wear a pedometer and keep track of your steps. However you manage it, you will lose weight, get your blood pressure under control and reduce your risk of osteoporosis.

If only it were so simple. While exercise has undeniable benefits, many, if not most, of its powers have been oversold. Sure, it can be fun. It can make you feel energized. And it may lift your mood. But before you turn to a fitness program as the solution to your particular health or weight concern, consider what science has found.

Moderate exercise, such as walking, can reduce the risk of diabetes in obese and sedentary people whose blood sugar is starting to rise. That outcome was shown in a large federal study in which participants were randomly assigned either to an exercise and diet program, to take a diabetes drug or to serve as controls. Despite trying hard, those who dieted and worked out lost very little weight. But they did manage to maintain a regular walking program, and fewer of them went on to develop diabetes.

Exercise also may reduce the risk of heart disease, though the evidence is surprisingly mixed. There seems to be a threshold effect: Most of the heart protection appears to be realized by people who go from being sedentary to being moderately active, usually by walking regularly. More intense exercise has been shown to provide only slightly greater benefits. Yet the data from several large studies have not always been clear, because those who exercise tend to be very different from those who do not.

Active people are much less likely to smoke; they’re thinner and they eat differently than their sedentary peers. They also tend to be more educated, and education is one of the strongest predictors of good health in general and a longer life. As a result, it is impossible to know with confidence whether exercise prevents heart disease or whether people who are less likely to get heart disease are also more likely to be exercising.

Scientists have much the same problem evaluating exercise and cancer. The same sort of studies that were done for heart disease find that people who exercised had lower rates of colon and breast cancer. But whether that result is cause or effect is not well established.

Exercise is often said to stave off osteoporosis. Yet even weight-bearing activities like walking, running or lifting weights has not been shown to have that effect. Still, in rigorous studies in which elderly people were randomly assigned either to exercise or maintain their normal routine, the exercisers were less likely to fall, perhaps because they got stronger or developed better balance. Since falls can lead to fractures in people with osteoporosis, exercise may prevent broken bones — but only indirectly.

And what about weight loss? Lifting weights builds muscles but will not make you burn more calories. The muscle you gain is minuscule compared with the total amount of skeletal muscle in the body. And muscle has a very low metabolic rate when it’s at rest. (You can’t flex your biceps all the time.)

Jack Wilmore, an exercise physiologist at Texas A & M University, calculated that the average amount of muscle that men gained after a serious 12-week weight-lifting program was 2 kilograms, or 4.4 pounds. That added muscle would increase the metabolic rate by only 24 calories a day.

Exercise alone, in the absence of weight loss, has not been shown to reduce blood pressure. Nor does it make much difference in cholesterol levels. Weight loss can lower blood pressure and cholesterol levels, but if you want to lose weight, you have to diet as well as exercise. Exercise alone has not been shown to bring sustained weight loss.Just ask Steven Blair, an exercise researcher at the University of South Carolina. He runs every day and even runs marathons. But, he adds, “I was short, fat and bald when I started running, and I’m still short, fat and bald. Weight control is difficult for me. I fight the losing battle.”

The difficulty, Dr. Blair says, is that it’s much easier to eat 1,000 calories than to burn off 1,000 calories with exercise. As he relates, “An old football coach used to say, ‘I have all my assistants running five miles a day, but they eat 10 miles a day.’”

Publish date: 1/8/08
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,246
    YES, yes, yes in every way weight, mood, sleep, sex etc. Much better than sitting and eating then doing nothing, welcome home heart attack. :(

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  • peacegirl
    peacegirl Posts: 841
    g under p wrote:
    YES, yes, yes in every way weight, mood, sleep, sex etc. Much better than sitting and eating then doing nothing, welcome home heart attack. :(

    Peace

    totally agree....I feel like shit if I don't exercise for a few days
  • decides2dream
    decides2dream Posts: 14,977
    g under p wrote:
    YES, yes, yes in every way weight, mood, sleep, sex etc. Much better than sitting and eating then doing nothing, welcome home heart attack. :(

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    i don't disagree....but it is an interesting article.
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  • eyedclaar
    eyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    Well, I don't diet in any way shape or form. I eat what I like and I drink what I like and the only reason I can get away with that lifestyle is because I exercise all the time. I never exercise to exercise, you will not ever find me in a gym, but I play hard at least 3-4 times a week doing various activities. I'm pretty fit as a result. Of course, I have some chronic aches and pains from having broke about 100 bones in my body over the course of all that playing... so I guess it might have a down side. Still, I'm gonna keep it up until I can no longer drag this sack of meat out of bed.
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
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    peacegirl wrote:
    g under p wrote:
    YES, yes, yes in every way weight, mood, sleep, sex etc. Much better than sitting and eating then doing nothing, welcome home heart attack. :(

    Peace

    totally agree....I feel like shit if I don't exercise for a few days

    I don't think exercise helps me lose all that much weight, but it sure makes me feel better in every way! When my exercise program slips, I start going through bottles of Tums. Once I'm back into it, the Tums just stay in the bottle. Never fails.
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  • nuffingman
    nuffingman Posts: 3,014
    I suppose exercise is going to help make us healthy but like all things don't take it to extremes. I used to run marathons and play squash 4 times a week and I felt great. The only problem now is my knees and back are fucked.
  • nuffingman
    nuffingman Posts: 3,014
    I don't think exercise helps me lose all that much weight, but it sure makes me feel better in every way!
    Possibly because exercise can help you build muscle which is heavier than fat. So I've been told.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,246
    nuffingman wrote:
    I suppose exercise is going to help make us healthy but like all things don't take it to extremes. I used to run marathons and play squash 4 times a week and I felt great. The only problem now is my knees and back are fucked.

    Back in the day I was playing softball both fast/slowpitch 5 days a week plus traveling tournaments, street hockey, basketball plus ALL the playing at work. That included frisbee football, lacrosse, century road cycling rides and basketball and I was in consant state of aches and pains in my right knee. Finally had knee surgery which led to a a cutback in my physical activity bigtime, getting married and having a child contributed too. :D

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  • IwasBit10
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    nuffingman wrote:
    I don't think exercise helps me lose all that much weight, but it sure makes me feel better in every way!
    Possibly because exercise can help you build muscle which is heavier than fat. So I've been told.

    Depends on your eating habits as well.

    I played football (offensive line) and threw shot all through high school and college and I'd do these crazy olympic-style weight-lifting and intense conditioning programs. I'd also eat enough for 2-3 people at every meal. Now that that's all over, I haven't routinely lifted (or exercised) in a good two years, but I weigh a lot less because I started to watch what I eat. Plus all that hard muscle has melted into a nice, soft beer gut. :lol:
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  • exercise??what tha means???dont have this word in my vocabulary.. :roll:
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  • nuffingman
    nuffingman Posts: 3,014
    g under p wrote:
    nuffingman wrote:
    I suppose exercise is going to help make us healthy but like all things don't take it to extremes. I used to run marathons and play squash 4 times a week and I felt great. The only problem now is my knees and back are fucked.

    Back in the day I was playing softball both fast/slowpitch 5 days a week plus traveling tournaments, street hockey, basketball plus ALL the playing at work. That included frisbee football, lacrosse, century road cycling rides and basketball and I was in consant state of aches and pains in my right knee. Finally had knee surgery which led to a a cutback in my physical activity bigtime, getting married and having a child contributed too. :D

    Peace
    If you said "I finally had knee surgery" to a lardy butt they'd give that as an excuse why exercise wasn't good for you. :lol:

    I found that I still did a lot of running when the kids were born. Anything to get out of the house.
  • nuffingman
    nuffingman Posts: 3,014
    IwasBit10 wrote:
    Depends on your eating habits as well.

    I played football (offensive line) and threw shot all through high school and college and I'd do these crazy olympic-style weight-lifting and intense conditioning programs. I'd also eat enough for 2-3 people at every meal. Now that that's all over, I haven't routinely lifted (or exercised) in a good two years, but I weigh a lot less because I started to watch what I eat. Plus all that hard muscle has melted into a nice, soft beer gut. :lol:
    Good for you! When I had to stop the running and squash due to injuries I ballooned because I was still eating the same. I can't believe how much I used to eat when I was really active. I might as well have put the armchair in the fridge. The hard muscle turned into flab and headed south quite quickly.
  • libragirl
    libragirl Posts: 4,632
    I'm sure this has been said before but it's really the whole picture. All I know is that I have been exercising regularly for 10 or so years and feel better then I did in my teens and early twenties. I really believe that exercise is really good for the body.
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  • Claireack
    Claireack Posts: 13,561
    I don't exercise enough, less than I used to, used to fell-walk, rock climb, hell, I would do anything on offer. Now I swim and walk. I enjoy it and feel better when I do it.

    That's all I have to say, thank you for listening.
  • any personal trainer or weightlifter or health nut will tell you that excersize is only 50% of the equation. Diet is the other 50%. I think the article is basically saying that. You have to do good at both to be healthy and to lose weight/build muscle.
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
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    nuffingman wrote:
    I don't think exercise helps me lose all that much weight, but it sure makes me feel better in every way!
    Possibly because exercise can help you build muscle which is heavier than fat. So I've been told.

    Nah, that's not it. It's because I just love to eat & drink too much. But I feel better exercising and eating/drinking more than I would doing both less. Just don't lose any weight as a result - oh well. I'm over it.
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,246
    nuffingman wrote:
    g under p wrote:
    nuffingman wrote:
    I suppose exercise is going to help make us healthy but like all things don't take it to extremes. I used to run marathons and play squash 4 times a week and I felt great. The only problem now is my knees and back are fucked.

    Back in the day I was playing softball both fast/slowpitch 5 days a week plus traveling tournaments, street hockey, basketball plus ALL the playing at work. That included frisbee football, lacrosse, century road cycling rides and basketball and I was in consant state of aches and pains in my right knee. Finally had knee surgery which led to a a cutback in my physical activity bigtime, getting married and having a child contributed too. :D

    Peace
    If you said "I finally had knee surgery" to a lardy butt they'd give that as an excuse why exercise wasn't good for you. :lol:

    I found that I still did a lot of running when the kids were born. Anything to get out of the house.

    I said finally because I played very competitive sports and the last 2 years I saw a decline in my play due to cartilige damage in that knee. i could barely run so i had the surgery and I played much better for several more years then a family came along and that beacme more important. I played all those sports because i had time and I was good at them. However, i do understand what you're saying. :D

    Peace
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  • nuffingman wrote:
    I don't think exercise helps me lose all that much weight, but it sure makes me feel better in every way!
    Possibly because exercise can help you build muscle which is heavier than fat. So I've been told.

    Nah, that's not it. It's because I just love to eat & drink too much. But I feel better exercising and eating/drinking more than I would doing both less. Just don't lose any weight as a result - oh well. I'm over it.

    my motto: excess in moderation. Eat well-balanced meals and be a health nut during the weekend, then drink and eat what you want on the weekend (or one day a week).
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • decides2dream
    decides2dream Posts: 14,977
    any personal trainer or weightlifter or health nut will tell you that excersize is only 50% of the equation. Diet is the other 50%. I think the article is basically saying that. You have to do good at both to be healthy and to lose weight/build muscle.




    absolutely.
    and also points out, so much of the 'magic bullet' ideas tied to exercise, well...they just aren't conclusive necessarily. basically states it's very difficult to draw clear conclusions of cause/effect. seems such conclusions are more clear-cut for those completely sedentary and then active, or already borderline ill and then exercise, etc. i thought it interesting, and made sense...that a lot of the 'good' assigned to exercise, well, probably more many-pronged; stating that exercisers ate differently, lived differently, period....than those who don't, and that more than likely ALL those factors play a role rather than a clear-cut, specific, exercise alone can cure/help/improve ..........whatever. it always amazes me on some level too, just how much is linked to education level.
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  • Leathe?ma?
    Leathe?ma? Яussia Posts: 354
    exercise and sport keep us ALIVE. what can be better?