Would you marry someone of a different political ideology?

TriumphantAngel
TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
edited January 2010 in A Moving Train
G under P asked this in a different thread and it didn't get any responses, so i thought i'd start a thread on it's own. it's not something that i've ever had to worry about.
g under p wrote:
would you marry someone of a different political ideology?

Peace
really it depends on how different. we'd have to agree on some things, and i'd like to think we shared some common ground on the things closest to my heart. that aside though, if you truly love and respect someone, you should be able to work through anything.

a few examples of definite no no no and ginormous no for me.

reading Hannity's ''i'm a little tea pot short and stout, here is my handle, here is my spout" books on a lazy sunday afternoon while sitting on the porch.
putting a bumper sticker on my car saying ''Hockey moms say puck Obama"
waving signs at rallys saying "I'm a pro-lifer, but support the death penalty"
screaming out ''there i am!" when i swear i see my face on national television at the latest rally i attend, even though Glenn Beck used different footage to inflate the numbers in the hopes that repeating the fantasy enough times will make it reality.
when i say Kucinich, instead of recognizing i'm talking about "the man", it's mistaken as a sweet term of endearment directed at them. eww.

this should go without saying, but that would be a little too much for me.
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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,726
    im not the marriege type of man,,but if meet a woman,i love ,i care,and wanna wake up everyday in her side for the rest of my life no problem..i ll respect what she believe in..like she had too...mine political ideology is pearl jam..i vote always with a pj sticker in elections here.. :D
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • Brisk.
    Brisk. Posts: 11,581
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    im not the marriege type of man,,but if meet a woman,i love ,i care,and wanna wake up everyday in her side for the rest of my life no problem..i ll respect what she believe in..like she had too...mine political ideology is pearl jam..i vote always with a pj sticker in elections here.. :D

    how come you dont get sick of this band?
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,726
    Brisk. wrote:
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    im not the marriege type of man,,but if meet a woman,i love ,i care,and wanna wake up everyday in her side for the rest of my life no problem..i ll respect what she believe in..like she had too...mine political ideology is pearl jam..i vote always with a pj sticker in elections here.. :D

    how come you dont get sick of this band?
    when im alone and no one watching,im listening Greed.. :mrgreen: :roll: :roll:
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    g under p wrote:
    would you marry someone of a different political ideology?

    At the risk of sounding obvious; 'No'. :oops:

    Though I very rarely ever talk politics when I'm in a bar or wherever, but if the person were a right wing flag-waver I'm pretty sure it wouldn't take very long to figure it out.
  • KDH12
    KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    No

    I am already hard enough to get along with we do not need to add politics into the mix
    **CUBS GO ALL THE WAY IN......never **
  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    KDH12 wrote:
    No

    I am already hard enough to get along with we do not need to add politics into the mix
    what if she wanted you to get a H1N1 vaccination?

    ;)

    ps. please don't kill me. i kid. i kid.
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    Probably not. But ya know, people change, so it's hard to tell. Perhaps maybe you may marry a hard-core Liberal, and ten years later, you wake up next to a gun loving conservative. What would someone do then? Probably put up with it, if you love that person.

    I mean, look at Pearl Jam. They are slowly going from far left towards the middle... People change. (although I know I probably won't ever go conservative... That, I somehow know.) ;)
  • Heatherj43
    Heatherj43 Posts: 1,254
    I would marry outside my religious views, but not outside my political views. I just couldn't get along with them.
    I am too passionate about it.
    When I was young, I did marry outside my political views, but at that time, I wasn't so passionate about politics. Problem now with that long dissolved marriage is that we had 2 kids who have 2 parents with differing views, as well as the extended families being opposite in views. Many people just follow the politics their parents did.
    So, one kid is democrat and the other republican. Ouch!!
    Save room for dessert!
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,875
    no i would never marry outside of my political ideology. it is hard enough to go through your daily life living like you believe you should and living according to your principles, and then to come home and have to forsake all of that and check all of that at the door....you would have to bottle all of that up and the one person you should be able to have a civil discussion with and have them respect your views and you respect theirs is your spouse. in my opinion it would not work. i would never be completely happy in a situation like that....

    i am very very lucky that my girlfriend and i have very similar views. i think we have affected and reinforced each other's pre-existing views and meeting her has galvanized my position on many issues that i was on the fence about before, such as the isreal-palestine situation. we are both very passionate people about our beliefs and what we feel is right and wrong and i think that having that agreement on things makes our bond that much stronger...most of my friends all have the same beliefs as we do, and her belief in me allows me to get into the debates on this forum with confidence that even though many on here would disagree with my politics, her belief in me makes me feel that at least in her eyes and my eyes i am right and i can keep fighting the good fight, or the good fight as we both see it...and for that, as well as everything else, i thank her....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • KDH12
    KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    TriumphantAngel wrote:
    KDH12 wrote:
    No

    I am already hard enough to get along with we do not need to add politics into the mix
    what if she wanted you to get a H1N1 vaccination?

    ;)

    ps. please don't kill me. i kid. i kid.


    we agree on that too :mrgreen:
    **CUBS GO ALL THE WAY IN......never **
  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    TriumphantAngel wrote:
    KDH12 wrote:
    No

    I am already hard enough to get along with we do not need to add politics into the mix
    what if she wanted you to get a H1N1 vaccination?

    ;)

    ps. please don't kill me. i kid. i kid.

    :lol::lol::lol:
  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    no i would never marry outside of my political ideology. it is hard enough to go through your daily life living like you believe you should and living according to your principles, and then to come home and have to forsake all of that and check all of that at the door....you would have to bottle all of that up and the one person you should be able to have a civil discussion with and have them respect your views and you respect theirs is your spouse. in my opinion it would not work. i would never be completely happy in a situation like that....

    i am very very lucky that my girlfriend and i have very similar views. i think we have affected and reinforced each other's pre-existing views and meeting her has galvanized my position on many issues that i was on the fence about before, such as the isreal-palestine situation. we are both very passionate people about our beliefs and what we feel is right and wrong and i think that having that agreement on things makes our bond that much stronger...most of my friends all have the same beliefs as we do, and her belief in me allows me to get into the debates on this forum with confidence that even though many on here would disagree with my politics, her belief in me makes me feel that at least in her eyes and my eyes i am right and i can keep fighting the good fight, or the good fight as we both see it...and for that, as well as everything else, i thank her....
    Heatherj43 wrote:
    I would marry outside my religious views, but not outside my political views. I just couldn't get along with them.
    I am too passionate about it.
    When I was young, I did marry outside my political views, but at that time, I wasn't so passionate about politics. Problem now with that long dissolved marriage is that we had 2 kids who have 2 parents with differing views, as well as the extended families being opposite in views. Many people just follow the politics their parents did.
    So, one kid is democrat and the other republican. Ouch!!

    Well said, both of you! :)
  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    I hope I wouldn't marry someone with strong, differing political ideology. I don't see myself falling for such a person anyway, and I don't see them falling for me. For instance, why would a pro-lifer want to marry someone who runs an abortion program? They'd have to not feel that strongly about it. And why would I even have sex with someone who doesn't believe that a woman should have a choice to have an abortion? (It wouldn't keep me from having an abortion, but it would probably ruin our relationship if I had one and couldn't count on him for support.) I feel like I feel passionately enough about politics that I need to spend my life with someone who feels like I do and is supportive of this huge part of my life.

    But the main issue is kids. Kids change everything. There are plenty of issues in life where I can agree to disagree... but I'll be damned if I'm going to let someone raise my kids that way! For instance, I would never want my kids raised to believe that poor people are less deserving than those with more money, or that women who have unintended pregnancies are necessarily irresponsible, or that war is the answer.

    Religion, on the other hand, leaves more room for differences. I could totally marry someone with different religious beliefs, as long as those beliefs included tolerance for other beliefs. For instance, I could possibly (in theory) even marry someone who believed that abortion was a sin, as long as they didn't believe, politically, that women shouldn't have a right to make that determination for themselves. I agree with Gandhi: "Religions are but different roads that converge upon the same point. What difference does it make what road we take as long as we reach our destination?" Just don't try to block anyone else's road and we're good. ;)

    So, regarding politics, if the fundamental destination/objective is different (e.g. if someone's primary political objective values money above all else), it's much more of an issue than just what roads are taken.
  • InHerOwnWorld
    InHerOwnWorld Posts: 592
    Absolutely not. :|
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    I have the good fortune to be married to someone who is "middle of the road".
  • heidihi
    heidihi Posts: 114
    I married somebody that comes from the right (his Mum told him she would rather he married a prostitute that voted correctly!!). I have however reformed him and if anthing he is more mitiltantly left than I am now. We were quite young when we got together and as his Dad was an officer in the army, he really just did not know much different. I have a great time baiting my Mother-in-law when she annoys me. ;)
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,249
    TriumphantAngel wrote:
    G under P asked this in a different thread and it didn't get any responses, so i thought i'd start a thread on it's own. it's not something that i've ever had to worry about.
    g under p wrote:
    would you marry someone of a different political ideology?

    Peace
    really it depends on how different. we'd have to agree on some things, and i'd like to think we shared some common ground on the things closest to my heart. that aside though, if you truly love and respect someone, you should be able to work through anything.

    a few examples of definite no no no and ginormous no for me.

    reading Hannity's ''i'm a little tea pot short and stout, here is my handle, here is my spout" books on a lazy sunday afternoon while sitting on the porch.
    putting a bumper sticker on my car saying ''Hockey moms say puck Obama"
    waving signs at rallys saying "I'm a pro-lifer, but support the death penalty"
    screaming out ''there i am!" when i swear i see my face on national television at the latest rally i attend, even though Glenn Beck used different footage to inflate the numbers in the hopes that repeating the fantasy enough times will make it reality.
    when i say Kucinich, instead of recognizing i'm talking about "the man", it's mistaken as a sweet term of endearment directed at them. eww.

    this should go without saying, but that would be a little too much for me.

    Well I asked that question only because their seems to be a very strong split in this country down political lines. Religious is one thing which SHOULD be worked out before getting married especially if children are involved or if you plan on having children. The same can be said when it comes to the political spectrum, I've told my daughter a couple things never be afraid to ask questions and just because when it comes to politics I believe this particular party doesn't mean you have to do the same. Never be afraid to stand on your own even in the face of overwhelming opposition.

    Now as for my fiance' the last time she voted she vote for Bush 1. If she was to vote in 2008 she has told me she doesn't give a shit which party she would vote for. She believes they all lie, they all cheat and they ALL are power hungry mongers that are in power to strictly benefit themselves. When they can help her pay for her S&L bill and other bills then and only then she may consider one party or the other and it's ideology. She believes it's ALL a scam on the American people, a distraction to basically take up our time.

    I was a registered Democrat now Independent, but at least we have our eyes open as what our political system has become. They're in power not necessarily for the people but in power for themselves and their agenda. We see eye to eye on that level she wouldn't try to convince me otherwise and I wouldn't try and change her mind, we have too many children to waste our time. We both can put aside the political ideology in our relationship, now someone else with strong opposition political views my answer would be a definite NO.

    Peace

    Kucinich for President
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  • NoK
    NoK Posts: 824
    Politics, unlike religion which usually causes problems at the time of kids or family meetings, would come up countless times during discussions between two politically charged individuals. I personally doubt a relationship between two people from opposing sides would survive the bf/gf stage to reach marriage.
  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    scb wrote:
    Religion, on the other hand, leaves more room for differences. I could totally marry someone with different religious beliefs, as long as those beliefs included tolerance for other beliefs.
    i'm with you on this. it can work if you want it to. my mom has been a practicing catholic all her life and my dad is not. they have a great marriage.
  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    NoK wrote:
    Politics, unlike religion which usually causes problems at the time of kids or family meetings, would come up countless times during discussions between two politically charged individuals. I personally doubt a relationship between two people from opposing sides would survive the bf/gf stage to reach marriage.
    absolutely. i think you would have figured it out waaay before then.

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