Does Soundgarden = Matt + Ayotte?

I have a hard time believing the Matt wld jump ship??? If he does, that most likely means PJ will not do a major US tour in 2010. :( SG is cool (Bad Motor Finger) but fuck me man, Matt has made it big time with PJ....I dont know. Its like having to choose between living with your Mom or Dad......

DewieCox wrote:

Appleseed wrote:

Matt has made it big time with PJ....

If SG reunites that will be bigger news than anything PJ has done for a good while.

oh.... it wasn't a joke... :evil:

So here's what me and my friend were talking about this am

soundgarden/pearl jam super tour with special guest temple of the dog.
Matts arms would fall off by the end if the tour

Soundgarden are reuniting but that dosen't mean Matt will leave PJ. I think that Chris has probably already written a bunch of songs cause these rumours have been floating around for quite some time, and that they will record an album and tour around PJ's schedule. The beautiful thing about both of these bands is that they can do as they please. And I highly doubt that after all PJ has done for Matt he would just jump ship because Chris Cornell's album with Timbaland flopped because it SUCKED ASS! He need's another restaurant in Paris, and Soundgarden have been gone just long enough to be nostalgic, so let's do a one off album and tour and make a bunch of money. Chris Cornell changes his mind and musical direction more than PJ have changed drummer's and I'm sure Matt is aware of that.

So Dewie Cox, while it may be big news, that dosen't mean Matt is the glory hound you are, I'm sure he would do it to make some great music, and I agree that SG were a great band, but they don't come close to the magic that is PJ. And I can't understand why you spend so much time on this site when clearly PJ just don't do it for you anymore. You know the saying if you don't have something good to say then shut the fuck up?

Shut the fuck up.

left the porch wrote:

Soundgarden are reuniting but that dosen't mean Matt will leave PJ. I think that Chris has probably already written a bunch of songs cause these rumours have been floating around for quite some time, and that they will record an album and tour around PJ's schedule. The beautiful thing about both of these bands is that they can do as they please. And I highly doubt that after all PJ has done for Matt he would just jump ship because Chris Cornell's album with Timbaland flopped because it SUCKED ASS! He need's another restaurant in Paris, and Soundgarden have been gone just long enough to be nostalgic, so let's do a one off album and tour and make a bunch of money. Chris Cornell changes his mind and musical direction more than PJ have changed drummer's and I'm sure Matt is aware of that.

So Dewie Cox, while it may be big news, that dosen't mean Matt is the glory hound you are, I'm sure he would do it to make some great music, and I agree that SG were a great band, but they don't come close to the magic that is PJ. And I can't understand why you spend so much time on this site when clearly PJ just don't do it for you anymore. You know the saying if you don't have something good to say then shut the fuck up?

Shut the fuck up.

Dude, you need to chill!

That being said, I really hope he doesn't try to use the same drumsound in a reunited SG that he's been using for PJ caue I think he a heavier sound would suit the music better.

Dude, you need to chill!

That being said, I really hope he doesn't try to use the same drumsound in a reunited SG that he's been using for PJ caue I think he a heavier sound would suit the music better.

No I really don't. I'm just sick of the people who think that saying things like the new album sucks and this song sucks, don't find another place to complain and criticize and live in the past. They're not going to remake Binaural ok! And a SG reunion is bigger than anything PJ has done recently? Really? How about celebrating the fact they never broke up? That they never stopped making music? And Backspacer is a great album. I think. And I'm sure a lot of other people on this site do too. It does happen to be the official FAN club site. Probably not the best place to bash this band in any way. And you can say what you want about being entitled to an opinion, which you are, just air it somewhere else. Either that or expect some back lash.

And glory hound comes from the fact you said it was "bigger news" than anything PJ has done in quite awhile. Who cares about news? Glory hounds. Who posts over 2000 times? Glory hounds.

If this is the "Pearl Jam is, now and forever, perfect in every way" forum, then I'm not sure I want to spend any time here. Anyone, and certainly any band, is open to criticism. I don't think anyone would spend any time here if they didn't like the music of Pearl Jam. That being said, they've made decisions that I disagree with, and they've made some music I haven't enjoyed as much as others.

If someone wants to follow this band blindly, declaring their infallibility as if they were Lord Jesus himself, then that's their privilege. But unless there's mean intentions, criticism and disagreement has always been welcome here.

I'll be one to say I've never quite gelled with Matt's drumming for Pearl Jam. I believe him to be a phenomenally talented drummer, musician, composer and singer, but I would take Jack Irons back in a heartbeat. No Code and Yield are my favorite albums, and have been since the albums came out over a decade ago. I know there are Dave A. fans in abundance as well, and Matt certainly has his fans. I can say that Matt has stabilized the band and been a backbone for them live, but I don't like the change in feel that accompanied his joining the band. Funny thing is, I think he was an AMAZING drummer when he played with Soundgarden, and I really look forward to seeing what that band does when they get back together. Kim, Chris, Matt and Ben (with props to Hiro) made some great music, stuff that was rhythmically challenging, dark, heavy, and yet melodic and soaring. Matt's affinity for alternate time signatures and funny turnarounds defined Soundgarden, and I will make every attempt to see them if they play any shows.

Then again, if I'm wrong, apparently I'm just a noob who doesn't know how things work around here.

mccreadyisgod wrote:

If this is the "Pearl Jam is, now and forever, perfect in every way" forum, then I'm not sure I want to spend any time here. Anyone, and certainly any band, is open to criticism. I don't think anyone would spend any time here if they didn't like the music of Pearl Jam. That being said, they've made decisions that I disagree with, and they've made some music I haven't enjoyed as much as others.

If someone wants to follow this band blindly, declaring their infallibility as if they were Lord Jesus himself, then that's their privilege. But unless there's mean intentions, criticism and disagreement has always been welcome here.

I'll be one to say I've never quite gelled with Matt's drumming for Pearl Jam. I believe him to be a phenomenally talented drummer, musician, composer and singer, but I would take Jack Irons back in a heartbeat. No Code and Yield are my favorite albums, and have been since the albums came out over a decade ago. I know there are Dave A. fans in abundance as well, and Matt certainly has his fans. I can say that Matt has stabilized the band and been a backbone for them live, but I don't like the change in feel that accompanied his joining the band. Funny thing is, I think he was an AMAZING drummer when he played with Soundgarden, and I really look forward to seeing what that band does when they get back together. Kim, Chris, Matt and Ben (with props to Hiro) made some great music, stuff that was rhythmically challenging, dark, heavy, and yet melodic and soaring. Matt's affinity for alternate time signatures and funny turnarounds defined Soundgarden, and I will make every attempt to see them if they play any shows.

Then again, if I'm wrong, apparently I'm just a noob who doesn't know how things work around here.

It's not about being right or wrong. And there are no rules here, it's called freedom of speech and I encourage it. And I don't think that I "follow this band blindly, declaring their infallibility as if they were Lord Jesus himself," I never said my word was gospel. If anyone thinks that it's you and Dewie with how much time you spend on here, writing your opinions and disecting the music like it's yours. I take exception to someone saying Backspacer or Self Titled sucked because I LIKE those albums. Do I think every single thing PJ has done is great? No, but the majority of it I love. So if you say that these albums suck, your saying that anyone who loves them is misguided on what truly good PJ music is, cause a certain drummer played on it? I love Jack too, but Matt has taken the band to new level live. And I've seen PJ play with Dave, Jack and Matt, and I definitely think Matt is the best fit, both musically and as a member with some history. He's known Jeff and Stone and Mike longer than Ed has.
What really bugged me about what he said was PJ haven't done anything big in quite a while? What constitutes big? PJ could've been the biggest band in the world but pulled back. I loved Soundgarden and I can't wait to see them again and hopefully get some new music too. But the fact remains that Chris Cornell always thought he was bigger than the band. I mean is everyone forgetting he just made a record with Timbaland? Or that Audioslave didn't fly because of his ego?
Pearl Jam are my favorite band. They have been since that hot August day back in 92. So yes, I get a little defensive when they are critcized by other "fans." I have stayed away from discussions like this in the past because I knew it would just turn into an argument. But Cox seems to have nothing good to say, ever, so I called him on some things. And I'm just as entitled as you guys are to defend things that are dear to me.

That's it, that's all, that's everything.