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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,583
    Oceans
    Wash
    Garden
    Brother
    Let Me Sleep
    Bee Girl

    Great idea, thanks for setting this up.
    ___________________________________________

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  • samjamsamjam New York Posts: 9,283
    1. Oceans
    2. Deep
    3. Alone
    4. Brother
    5. Out of my Mind
    6. W.M.A.
    "Sometimes you find yourself having to put all your faith in no faith."
    ~not a dude~
    2010: MSGx2
    2012: Made In America
    2013: Pittsburgh, Brooklynx2, Hartford, Baltimore
    2014: Leeds, Milton Keynes, Detroit
    2015: Global Citizen Festival
    2016: Phillyx2, MSGx2, Fenwayx2
    2018: Barcelona, Wrigleyx2
  • Evil-Little-GoatEvil-Little-Goat Posts: 126
    1- Oceans
    2- Deep
    3- Garden
    4- Brother
    5- Let Me Sleep
    6- W.M.A.
  • FrankieGFrankieG Abingdon MD Posts: 9,100
    LoveBoatAdmiral wrote:
    sstuart42 wrote:
    I agree , I already don't agree with the wild cards

    I'll admit, it was difficult to seed the songs, especially the songs on Ten. The wild card songs become more like throw away songs later on (there's a Whale Song vs. Santa Cruz matchup on the horizon), but I had to make some tough calls early on. 100 different people could organize this and we'd have 100 different brackets, but since there's no AP poll on this particular subject, I had to make some judicious calls. Just know that what you see now is just a fraction of the whole thing, and as long as you keep voting for your favorites, the best songs will rise to the top.

    You might be able to list them according to a ratio of number of times played lived / # of years each song has been released.

    Even Flow = 650 plays / 19 year = 34.21
    Fixer = 32 plays / 1 "year" = 32
    etc etc

    and then set up the brackets that way?
    2003: 7/14 NJ ... 2006: 6/1 NJ, 6/3 NJ ... 2007: 8/5 IL ... 2008: 6/24 NY, 6/25 NY, 8/7 EV NJ ... 2009: 10/27 PA, 10/28 PA, 10/30 PA, 10/31 PA
    2010: 5/20 NY, 5/21 NY ... 2011: 6/21 EV NY, 9/3 WI, 9/4 WI ... 2012: 9/2 PA, 9/22 GA ... 2013: 10/18 NY, 10/19 NY, 10/21 PA, 10/22 PA, 10/27 MD
    2015: 9/23 NY, 9/26 NY ... 2016: 4/28 PA, 4/29 PA, 5/1 NY, 5/2 NY, 6/11 TN, 8/7 MA, 11/4 TOTD PA, 11/5 TOTD PA ... 2018: 8/10 WA
    2022: 9/14 NJ ... 2024: 5/28 WA, 9/7 PA, 9/9 PA ---- http://imgur.com/a/nk0s7
  • LoveBoatAdmiralLoveBoatAdmiral Posts: 1,191
    FrankieG wrote:
    LoveBoatAdmiral wrote:
    sstuart42 wrote:
    I agree , I already don't agree with the wild cards

    I'll admit, it was difficult to seed the songs, especially the songs on Ten. The wild card songs become more like throw away songs later on (there's a Whale Song vs. Santa Cruz matchup on the horizon), but I had to make some tough calls early on. 100 different people could organize this and we'd have 100 different brackets, but since there's no AP poll on this particular subject, I had to make some judicious calls. Just know that what you see now is just a fraction of the whole thing, and as long as you keep voting for your favorites, the best songs will rise to the top.

    You might be able to list them according to a ratio of number of times played lived / # of years each song has been released.

    Even Flow = 650 plays / 19 year = 34.21
    Fixer = 32 plays / 1 "year" = 32
    etc etc

    and then set up the brackets that way?

    Wow. That sounds like math. I don't know if I like that :D

    Really, I just tried to be objective while taking into consideration what the band chooses to promote, what the casual fan knows, and what us geeks love and hate (that's why Evacuation is seeded poorly even though I happen to love that song). There was no science behind it though because I was just trying to fill some time, and I figure the best song is gonna win no matter what path it has to take.
    2006- Boston I
    2008- Boston I+II
    2009- Toronto, Philly III+IV
    2010- Bristow, Hartford, Boston, Newark
  • tinkerbelltinkerbell New Zealand Posts: 2,161
    1. Oceans
    2. Deep
    3. Garden
    4. Brother
    5. Let Me Sleep
    6. W.M.A

    Oooohhhh this gonna be fun!
    all you need is love, love is all you need
  • pdalowskypdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,211
    WILD CARD MATCHUPS PART 1:

    1. Oceans
    2. Deep
    3. Garden
    4. Brother
    5. Out of My Mind
    6. W.M.A.
  • craigbcraigb Posts: 806
    1. Oceans
    2. Deep
    3. Garden
    4. Brother
    5. Let Me SLeep
    6. W.M.A
    "Speak clearly if you speak at all; carve every word before you let it fall"

    Los Angeles 10.7.2009
  • Not For YouNot For You Posts: 360
    The only one I had trouble with is Wash Vs. Deep....So I went with the one rarely played live.

    1. Oceans
    2. Wash
    3. Garden
    4. Brother
    5. Out of my Mind
    6. W.M.A.
    Walks on his own... With thoughts he can't help thinking...
  • BenzorBenzor Posts: 886
    Oceans
    Deep
    Alone
    4. Brother
    Out of My Mind
    W.M.A.
  • BeeGirl86BeeGirl86 Pittsburgh Posts: 172
    1. Oceans vs. Just A Girl
    2. Wash vs. Deep
    3. Garden vs. Alone
    4. Brother vs. Dirty Frank
    5. Out of My Mind vs. Let Me Sleep
    6. Bee Girl vs. W.M.A.


    I reallllyyyy like this...I'm such a dork, ridiculous how excited I am!! haha

    1. Oceans
    2. Wash
    3. Garden
    4. Brother
    5. Let Me Sleep
    6. W.M.A.
    :D

    Can't wait to see what's up next!!
    I miss you alreddie.
  • pearljammonkeypearljammonkey Brisbane Posts: 205
    Oceans
    Wash
    Garden
    Dirty Frank
    Out of my Mind
    WMA
  • dpmaydpmay Posts: 643
    Oceans
    Deep
    Garden
    Dirty Frank
    Let Me Sleep
    W.M.A.
  • eddies in my treeeddies in my tree Posts: 486
    1 oceans
    2 deep
    3 garden
    4 brother
    5 out of my mind
    6 wma
    a wise man investigates what a fool passes by

    4/26/03 - pittsburgh
    4/28/03 - philly
    7/05/03 - camden
    7/12/03 - hershey
    5/28/06 - camden
    5/20/10 - msg
    5/21/10 - msg
    6/25/11 - upper darby - EV
  • ToneTone Posts: 1,206
    1. Oceans
    2. Wash (best song EVER!)
    3. Garden
    4. Dirty Frank
    5. Out of My Mind
    6. W.M.A.
    Glaciers melting in the dead of night and the superstars sucked into the supermassive.
  • Brain of JFKBrain of JFK Posts: 238
    1. Oceans
    2. Wash
    3. Garden
    4. Dirty Frank
    5. Let Me Sleep
    6. W.M.A.
    96: 10-2 Hartford
    03: 7-11 Mansfield 3
    04: 9-28 Boston 1
    08: 6-28 Mansfield 1
    09: 10-30 Philly 3, 10-31 Philly 4
    10: 5-15 Hartford, 5-17 Boston
    11: 9-3 Alpine Valley, 9-4 Alpine Valley
    13: 10-15 Worcester 1, 10-16 Worcester 2, 10-25 Hartford
    16: 4-29 Philly 2, 5-1 MSG 1, 8-5 Fenway 1, 8-7 Fenway 2
    18: 9-2 Fenway 1, 9-4 Fenway 2
    21: 9-26 Ohana
    22: 5-6 LA, 5-7 LA, 5-16 Fresno
    EV SOLO: 8-2-08 Boston 2, 6-8-09 Albany 1, 6-15-11 Providence, 6-16-11 Boston, 6-18-11 Hartford, 11-1-12 Las Vegas
    Tres Mts: 3-27-11 Boston
  • gregkitefangregkitefan Posts: 1,122
    Oceans
    Wash
    Garden
    Brother
    Out Of My Mind
    WMA
    38
  • danny ddanny d Posts: 90
    1. OCEANS
    2. DEEP
    3. GARDEN
    4. BROTHER
    5. OUT OF MY MIND
    6. W.M.A.
  • LoveBoatAdmiralLoveBoatAdmiral Posts: 1,191
    Here's the update of the voting so far. We've got some blow outs and some close ones. Remember, 2 1/2 more days of voting until the second of four wild card rounds begin.

    Oceans (60) vs. Just a Girl (3)

    Wash (33) vs. Deep (30)

    Garden (48) vs. Alone (15)

    Brother (36) vs. Dirty Frank (27)

    Out of My Mind (37) vs. Let Me Sleep (26)

    Bee Girl (6) vs. W.M.A. (57)
    2006- Boston I
    2008- Boston I+II
    2009- Toronto, Philly III+IV
    2010- Bristow, Hartford, Boston, Newark
  • I Cant Believe Its LedbetterI Cant Believe Its Ledbetter Posts: 144
    1. Oceans
    2. Wash
    3.Garden
    4. Dirty Frank
    5. Out of my Mind
    6. W.M.A.
  • EastiesEasties Posts: 479
    1. Oceans
    2. Deep
    3. Garden
    4. Brother
    5. Out of my Mind
    6. W.M.A.
  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,090
    1. Oceans
    2. Deep
    3. Garden
    4. Brother
    5. Out Of My Mind
    6. WMA
    8/28/98- Camden, NJ
    10/31/09- Philly
    5/21/10- NYC
    9/2/12- Philly, PA
    7/19/13- Wrigley
    10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
    10/21/13- Philly, PA
    10/22/13- Philly, PA
    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    4/28/16- Philly, PA
    4/29/16- Philly, PA
    5/1/16- NYC
    5/2/16- NYC
    9/2/18- Boston, MA
    9/4/18- Boston, MA
    9/14/22- Camden, NJ
    9/7/24- Philly, PA
    9/9/24- Philly, PA
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
    RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
  • skidmanskidman Posts: 66
    1) Oceans
    2) Wash
    3) Garden
    4) Brother
    5) Out Of My Mind
    6) WMA


    Nearly went with Dirty Frank....
    Now bring me my beer.
  • Blood Red MosquitoBlood Red Mosquito Posts: 1,611
    Oceans
    Wash
    Garden
    Brother
    Out Of My Mind
    WMA
    1995: San Francisco, San Diego
    2000: Phoenix
    2008: Camden 2
    2009: San Diego, Philly 1, Philly 2
    2010: MSG 1, MSG 2
    2011: Alpine 1, Alpine 2
    2012: Missoula
    2013: Wrigley, Phoenix, San Diego, LA1, LA2, Oakland
    2014: Denver
    2016: MSG1, MSG2, Fenway 1, Fenway 2
    2018: Fenway 1
    2022: San Diego, LA1
    2024: LA1
  • crusadersjamcrusadersjam Posts: 48
    oceans
    deep
    garden
    brother
    out of my MIND
    WMA
    1998 Wellington
    2001 Rock Am Ring
    2009 CHCH and Melbourne
    2012 Manchester x 2
  • slingsling Posts: 169
    No need to do brackets... After it's all said & done, the winner's got to be Release, right?!
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,340
    sling wrote:
    No need to do brackets... After it's all said & done, the winner's got to be Release, right?!

    Hmmm. I like the idea of doing the bracket, actually. Something to distract me from actually working.
    Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; Phila, PA 10/21/13; Phila, PA 10/22/13; Baltimore Arena 10/27/13;
    Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
    Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24; Pittsburgh 5/16/25; Pittsburgh 5/18/25

    Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 31,439
    i'm not votin the best song is missing !!

    Breath
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,724
    1. Oceans
    2. Deep
    3. Garden
    4. Brother
    5. Out of My Mind
    6. W.M.A.
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • nevmilesnevmiles Ottawa, ON Posts: 1,363
    The ONLY problem that this will cause for me is that as this goes on, I'm going to vote for the song that I like more "at that moment". My favourite PJ songs change on weekly basis . . .

    For example, Wash vs. Deep . . . I LOVE them both, but have heard a lot of Wash lately and would prefer to listen to Deep at the moment . . . meaning it gets my vote :roll: (don't count this as a vote for Deep as I have already submitted my list :))
    Barrie 08/22/98
    Montreal 10/04/00
    Toronto 10/05/00
    Toronto 06/28/03
    Kitchener 09/11/05
    Ottawa 09/16/05
    Toronto 08/21/09
    Toronto 09/11/11
    Ottawa 09/14/11
    Buffalo 10/12/13
    Ottawa 05/08/16
    Chicago 08/20/18
    Ottawa 09/03/22
    Nashville 09/16/22
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