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Corporate American Flag

donald Cronindonald Cronin Posts: 49
edited August 2012 in The Porch
I recall the press conference to annonce the South American tour a few years ago. Pearl Jam stood in front of an American flag in which each of the 50 stars was replaced with a corporate logo. I need to find a photo of this to ascertain if the Targer corporate logo was included.

It is interesting that just a few years ago they were lambasting the corporate control of America by affixing that flag to the wall behind them and now they have a commercial with a BIG RED TARGET logo flashing behind them in full support of such control.

Seems hypocritical to me, sorry if others don't see it but it is fairly transparent if you have followed the history of the band.

Stop following with your eyes closed....
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  • Pushin Forward BackPushin Forward Back Posts: 890
    please shut up-
  • LizardLizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    this was discussed months ago...you're late to the party.
    So I'll just lie down and wait for the dream
    Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
  • OlDiamondbackOlDiamondback Posts: 100
    adbusters.jpg
  • Backspacer_BackerBackspacer_Backer Posts: 1,023
    yeah, thank goodness they weren't attached to any corporations before this Target deal.
  • LizardLizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    Hmmm...No Target.
    So I'll just lie down and wait for the dream
    Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
  • KatKat Posts: 4,939
    And when someone chooses to work within the system and gets the corporation to make changes in the way they do things, what do we call that? I call it activism.

    Admin
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    mdf563913.jpg
  • DissidentmanDissidentman Posts: 15,378
    They can't truly live "off the grid" and still get a CD into your hands.
  • elwayvedderelwayvedder South Jersey Posts: 9,148
    Kat wrote:
    And when someone chooses to work within the system and gets the corporation to make changes in the way they do things, what do we call that? I call it activism.

    Admin

    or get the corporation to give back to the community and help make the world better as well....
    www.operationyellowribbon.org
  • G ForceG Force Posts: 1,393
    Pushin Forward Back wrote:
    please shut up-

    +1
  • WeBelongTogetherWeBelongTogether Posts: 340
    aNiMaL wrote:
    mdf563913.jpg

    God, Ed looks so cool in that photo...
    Camden - 5/28/06; Camden - 6/20/08; MSG - 6/25/08; Newark - (Ed Solo) 8/7/08; Philly - (Ed Solo) 6/12/09; Philly - 10/30/09; Philly - 10/31/09; Newark - 5/18/10; MSG - 5/20/10; MSG - 5/21/10
  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    Kat wrote:
    And when someone chooses to work within the system and gets the corporation to make changes in the way they do things, what do we call that? I call it activism.

    Admin
    I agree!

    And if you have followed the history of this band, you should also closely follow this Target deal and hear wht the band members themselves have said about it and understand the deal they made. How different it is from any other big box retail deal every done before by any other band.

    And, you would think this was the first time PJ has ever been partnered with a large corporation. I am not sure what you thought Sony Music was. But this time around, they got to cut out a couple big box retailers. So, they are actually with less corporations now than they ever have been in the past.
  • DissidentmanDissidentman Posts: 15,378
    Hey, what's wrong with Playboy???
  • skyeriverwinterskyeriverwinter Posts: 1,894
    aNiMaL wrote:
    mdf563913.jpg
    they don't look too thrilled to be there do they.......
  • sickwilliesickwillie Posts: 178
    Everyone is entitled to their opinion. That being said...

    boxxy-trolling.jpg
    "We've done really well with teenage death songs." -EV
  • oona leftoona left Posts: 1,677
    aNiMaL wrote:
    Kat wrote:
    And when someone chooses to work within the system and gets the corporation to make changes in the way they do things, what do we call that? I call it activism.

    Admin
    I agree!

    And if you have followed the history of this band, you should also closely follow this Target deal and hear wht the band members themselves have said about it and understand the deal they made. How different it is from any other big box retail deal every done before by any other band.

    And, you would think this was the first time PJ has ever been partnered with a large corporation. I am not sure what you thought Sony Music was. But this time around, they got to cut out a couple big box retailers. So, they are actually with less corporations now than they ever have been in the past.



    I love the fact that the band is with a distributor that keeps its disembodied hands off the music!!!
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    i'm gonna go buy a bunch of useless crap at Target in honor of this thread.
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    donald Cronin wrote:
    It is interesting that just a few years ago they were lambasting the corporate control of America by affixing that flag to the wall behind them and now they have a commercial with a BIG RED TARGET logo flashing behind them in full support of such control.

    Seems hypocritical to me, sorry if others don't see it but it is fairly transparent if you have followed the history of the band.

    Stop following with your eyes closed....

    Yeah, I miss the days when they stuck with the little guys, like Sony. I don't get how they could move from such a small, independent label to a giant megacorporation. Wait, isn't Sony a giant megacorporation? They make like half the electronics I own and release half my CD's... and isn't the new album being released on the band's own label and they're just letting Target carry it because nobody else was willing to let indie music stores sell it too? Shit, now I don't know what to think... I was so looking forward to a good corporate whore rant...
  • ra288388ra288388 Posts: 50
    Good for them! They made a good deal with Target, they're making good money, why shouldn't they? Wouldn't we all love to? It's about time an artist is making a good buck with their talents, and they probably give a lot of their money to charity anyway. Target does.
  • Got GutsGot Guts Posts: 40
    If they truly didn't give a shit they would've sold out to Wal-mart to sell more records. I myself didn't get it at first but I understand and support it now. Think a little more before you speak, please.
  • KatKat Posts: 4,939
    Pearl Jam and Loomstate collaborate with Target for charity

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/allther ... arity.html
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • elwayvedderelwayvedder South Jersey Posts: 9,148
    edited September 2009
    Kat wrote:
    Pearl Jam and Loomstate collaborate with Target for charity

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/allther ... arity.html

    precisely.

    this band is like our parents. they do things and we as kids dont know it at the time why or understand but when we get older, we understand that they did the right thing. this band finds ways to give and give and for that plus their work and art, they are absolutely amazing at the least
    www.operationyellowribbon.org
  • G ForceG Force Posts: 1,393
    Kat wrote:
    Pearl Jam and Loomstate collaborate with Target for charity

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/allther ... arity.html

    Touche... Kat is so on point.
  • darthvedder81darthvedder81 Posts: 688
    I don't think it's hypocrisy. I think Pearl Jam has honestly changed their minds. This categorical hate of all corporations everywhere is ridiculous and the band has matured enough to realize this. There are alot of well-known companies out there who probably post fewer profits than the band does.
    So this life is sacrifice...
    6/30/98 Minneapolis, 10/8/00 East Troy (Brrrr!), 6/16/03 St. Paul, 6/27/06 St. Paul
  • stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,385
    backspacer is the first vinyl sold at target
  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    stuckinline wrote:
    backspacer is the first vinyl sold at target
    I find that hard to really believe.

    If they sold music back in the 60's, 70's, and early 80's, then they've sold vinyl records before. ;)
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    skyeriverwinter wrote:
    aNiMaL wrote:
    mdf563913.jpg
    they don't look too thrilled to be there do they.......

    Whatever the question is, Jeff doesn't know.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • pjalive21pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    Kat comes out a blazin with heavy ammo!

    thread starter loses 50 life points..ha
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    soulsinging wrote:
    Yeah, I miss the days when they stuck with the little guys, like Sony. I don't get how they could move from such a small, independent label to a giant megacorporation. Wait, isn't Sony a giant megacorporation? They make like half the electronics I own and release half my CD's... and isn't the new album being released on the band's own label and they're just letting Target carry it because nobody else was willing to let indie music stores sell it too? Shit, now I don't know what to think... I was so looking forward to a good corporate whore rant...

    Tremendous post! :D
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • samnationsamnation Los Angeles, CA Posts: 277
    Dissidentman wrote:
    Hey, what's wrong with Playboy???

    And Adobe. Really? Adobe?
    Sam
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