Force of nature =

lostdogs89
lostdogs89 Posts: 134
edited September 2009 in The Porch
my favorite song by far and probably most complex. What do you guys think this song is about?
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  • bigbadbill
    bigbadbill Posts: 1,758
    To me, Force of Nature to Backspacer is like Marker in the Sand to Avocado.
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  • MrMerkinball
    MrMerkinball Posts: 1,978
    I'm luke warm on this one right now. It might take some time.

    Though the "Makes me ache" part is sick.
  • Kloddz
    Kloddz Posts: 2,573
    bigbadbill wrote:
    To me, Force of Nature to Backspacer is like Marker in the Sand to Avocado.
    Good comparison there!
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  • justam
    justam Posts: 21,415
    I love this song! It is something to hear and to see.
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  • lugnut
    lugnut Asheville Posts: 67
    at first FON was at the bottom of my favs...has moved up - this album is amazing, fking amazing and i know my pearl jam folks....

    as of right now

    amongst the waves
    unthoughtknown
    just breathe

    force of nature
    gonna see my friend
    got some
    jg
    the end

    supersonic
    fixer

    my album came with a defect and it sounds like there are drums on speed of sound - :) still ok though

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  • Backspacer_Backer
    Backspacer_Backer Posts: 1,023
    yeah, the first time i heard it, i thought it was just OK. now it's becoming one of my favs. very powerful.
  • cannotstaylong
    cannotstaylong Posts: 668
    csickels wrote:
    yeah, the first time i heard it, i thought it was just OK. now it's becoming one of my favs. very powerful.

    Same here. The guitar riff during the verses reminds me a little bit of No Way... just a little bit. But yeah, this one has grown on me a lot. I think they could have come up with a more complex solo at the end, but the one that's in there now works well nonetheless. I'm hoping that Mike will spice it up a bit live.
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  • LoveBoatAdmiral
    LoveBoatAdmiral Posts: 1,191
    lostdogs89 wrote:
    What do you guys think this song is about?

    This song has some of Ed's greatest writing, but it's not too deep. It's, quite simply, about a guy who loved girl who left him, went away, or died, and he can't seem to get past her or let her go. All he does is wait for her to come back. The symbolism here which I really like is the use of a lighthouse on the water, like a beacon waiting for a ship to return that may not even be out on the water, but stands there unmoving, unwilling to let go.
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  • Black10
    Black10 Posts: 160
    greatness!!
  • ottonyp
    ottonyp Posts: 226
    My favorite track on this amazing album!!!!
  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    cannotstaylong wrote:
    csickels wrote:
    yeah, the first time i heard it, i thought it was just OK. now it's becoming one of my favs. very powerful.

    Same here. The guitar riff during the verses reminds me a little bit of No Way... just a little bit. But yeah, this one has grown on me a lot. I think they could have come up with a more complex solo at the end, but the one that's in there now works well nonetheless. I'm hoping that Mike will spice it up a bit live.

    it sounds like Get Right to me, but i'm just starting to like the song a little..
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  • rawpixels
    rawpixels Posts: 912
    One of my favorites off of Backspacer. I was surprised they didn't do it in Seattle. Hopefully, Philly will get it.
    One man stands alone awaiting
    for her to come home
    eyes upon the horizon
    in the dark before the
    darkness leaves the dawn
  • rawpixels
    rawpixels Posts: 912
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    cannotstaylong wrote:
    csickels wrote:
    yeah, the first time i heard it, i thought it was just OK. now it's becoming one of my favs. very powerful.

    Same here. The guitar riff during the verses reminds me a little bit of No Way... just a little bit. But yeah, this one has grown on me a lot. I think they could have come up with a more complex solo at the end, but the one that's in there now works well nonetheless. I'm hoping that Mike will spice it up a bit live.

    it sounds like Get Right to me, but i'm just starting to like the song a little..

    Get Right sucks. Force of Nature is amazing! They sound nothing alike.
    One man stands alone awaiting
    for her to come home
    eyes upon the horizon
    in the dark before the
    darkness leaves the dawn
  • yield2me
    yield2me Posts: 1,291
    Force of Nature took some time to grow on me but after many listens I now really dig it. My only complaint is that it kind of starts off weak, something about those opening guitar lines that is just a bit off, but once the song gets going its great. It sounds like it's straight off of Riot Act.
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  • RoughMix
    RoughMix back of a lorry Posts: 385
    LoveBoatAdmiral wrote:
    lostdogs89 wrote:
    What do you guys think this song is about?

    This song has some of Ed's greatest writing, but it's not too deep. It's, quite simply, about a guy who loved girl who left him, went away, or died, and he can't seem to get past her or let her go. All he does is wait for her to come back. The symbolism here which I really like is the use of a lighthouse on the water, like a beacon waiting for a ship to return that may not even be out on the water, but stands there unmoving, unwilling to let go.

    +best song on the album.

    I think the woman has a alcohol or drug problem and he loves her and wants to help her but she hasn't hit bottom yet and is refusing all help.Won't grab the rope that is offered her ,"just lets go".
    Whether or not she comes back is debateable since he is still standing there "forevermore".
    "Eyes are closed",maybe praying for her to turn her life around and come home.
    But he is loyal to his "love" and his "heart don't seem to roam".
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  • cippociappo
    cippociappo Posts: 692
    Makes me ache, makes me shake

    is it so wrooong tooo think thaaaat loooove caaaaan keeeep uuuus saaaafe?


    LOVE IT 8-)
    Makes me ache, makes me shake...
    ...is it so wrong to think that love can keep us safe?
  • danny
    danny Posts: 2,283
    great song great album!
    danny d
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    edited September 2009
    LoveBoatAdmiral wrote:
    lostdogs89 wrote:
    What do you guys think this song is about?

    This song has some of Ed's greatest writing, but it's not too deep. It's, quite simply, about a guy who loved girl who left him, went away, or died, and he can't seem to get past her or let her go. All he does is wait for her to come back. The symbolism here which I really like is the use of a lighthouse on the water, like a beacon waiting for a ship to return that may not even be out on the water, but stands there unmoving, unwilling to let go.

    Actually, and I almost don't want to do this, but that's not quite it. Ed basically spilled the beans in that interview with the Toronto paper (I hate it when he does that):

    “It's about the strength of one person in the relationship, when they can withstand some of the faults in another – maybe drug addiction, or straying off the path. The person in the song is the lighthouse for the other person caught in the storm."

    Basically, it's about being in love with a fuck-up, but instead of being pushed away by that person's faults, it actually draws you closer to them ... makes you want to save them ... or at least be there for them. To be their lighthouse in the storm, as Ed put it.

    Once you read the song through that lens, you realize how phenomenal these lyrics are.

    A hidden gem: "The strength that you might think would disappear, resolving."

    Meaning, no one would blame you for giving up on this person, but you don't. Not only that, their failings make you love them more.

    It really is a phenomenal song that really clicked with me once I realized what it was about.
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    for the least they could possibly do
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    RoughMix wrote:
    LoveBoatAdmiral wrote:
    lostdogs89 wrote:
    What do you guys think this song is about?

    This song has some of Ed's greatest writing, but it's not too deep. It's, quite simply, about a guy who loved girl who left him, went away, or died, and he can't seem to get past her or let her go. All he does is wait for her to come back. The symbolism here which I really like is the use of a lighthouse on the water, like a beacon waiting for a ship to return that may not even be out on the water, but stands there unmoving, unwilling to let go.

    +best song on the album.

    I think the woman has a alcohol or drug problem and he loves her and wants to help her but she hasn't hit bottom yet and is refusing all help.Won't grab the rope that is offered her ,"just lets go".
    Whether or not she comes back is debateable since he is still standing there "forevermore".
    "Eyes are closed",maybe praying for her to turn her life around and come home.
    But he is loyal to his "love" and his "heart don't seem to roam".

    Yup. You got it. The "won't take the rope" line is the giveway.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    rawpixels wrote:
    Get Right sucks. Force of Nature is amazing! They sound nothing alike.

    He is using the same effect and they sound damn near the same to me. The songs are fundamentally different though, and yes, Get Right sucks.
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