Force of nature =

vinylmiss

Love the lyrics, think it will sound great live.

RoughMix

slightofjeff wrote:

LoveBoatAdmiral wrote:

lostdogs89 wrote:

What do you guys think this song is about?

This song has some of Ed's greatest writing, but it's not too deep. It's, quite simply, about a guy who loved girl who left him, went away, or died, and he can't seem to get past her or let her go. All he does is wait for her to come back. The symbolism here which I really like is the use of a lighthouse on the water, like a beacon waiting for a ship to return that may not even be out on the water, but stands there unmoving, unwilling to let go.

Actually, and I almost don't want to do this, but that's not quite it. Ed basically spilled the beans in that interview with the Toronto paper (I hate it when he does that):

“It's about the strength of one person in the relationship, when they can withstand some of the faults in another – maybe drug addiction, or straying off the path. The person in the song is the lighthouse for the other person caught in the storm."

Basically, it's about being in love with a fuck-up, but instead of being pushed away by that person's faults, it actually draws you closer to them ... makes you want to save them ... or at least be there for them. To be their lighthouse in the storm, as Ed put it.

Once you read the song through that lens, you realize how phenomenal these lyrics are.

A hidden gem: "The strength that you might think would disappear, resolving."

Meaning, no one would blame you for giving up on this person, but you don't. Not only that, their failings make you love them more.

It really is a phenomenal song that really clicked with me once I realized what it was about.

Yeah, Slight didn't see that interview.About that hidden gem(which it is),

"Somewhere there's a siren singing
A song only he hears
All the strength that you might think
would disappear,resolving."

A siren in Greek Mythology would sing her song on her island and lure sailors to thier death as they shipwrecked on that island.

He could be hearing the woman calling to him to join her in the addiction that she has.Because of his "love" for her,his "strength" to hold fast and and save her "disappears".He then becomes resolved to the fact that maybe he cannot save her.
After further contemplation maybe the "stands upon the shore forevermore" means she has died(or left for good) and will never return.
Just a thought.

i shit and i stink

It sounds like old, very old Pearl Jam.

It kicks ass.

JonnyPistachio

JonnyPistachio wrote:

rawpixels wrote:

Get Right sucks. Force of Nature is amazing! They sound nothing alike.

He is using the same effect and they sound damn near the same to me. The songs are fundamentally different though, and yes, Get Right sucks.

aww, shit...I got my crappy song titles mixed up. I wrote Get Right, but i meant You Are. I think the effect sounds the same in FoN and You Are. I mix up some of those songs on RA because they usually get skipped, just as FoN does on BS... :oops:

slightofjeff

JonnyPistachio wrote:

aww, shit...I got my crappy song titles mixed up. I wrote Get Right, but i meant You Are. I think the effect sounds the same in FoN and You Are. I mix up some of those songs on RA because they usually get skipped, just as FoN does on BS... :oops:

I'm no gearhead, but I don't think it's the same effect. On "You Are," Matt ran a guitar through some sort of drum machine.

I think what you're hearing on Force of Nature is just a standard "wah" pedal. Especially given it's a Mike tune.

cannotstaylong

slightofjeff wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

aww, shit...I got my crappy song titles mixed up. I wrote Get Right, but i meant You Are. I think the effect sounds the same in FoN and You Are. I mix up some of those songs on RA because they usually get skipped, just as FoN does on BS... :oops:

I'm no gearhead, but I don't think it's the same effect. On "You Are," Matt ran a guitar through some sort of drum machine.

I think what you're hearing on Force of Nature is just a standard "wah" pedal. Especially given it's a Mike tune.

Yeah, pretty much just wah. I don't hear the You Are similarity that much, at least not effects-wise. I still go back to No Way for more of a similarity. Not the song in general at all, but the opening guitar riff. Sounds somewhat similar to me... but who am I to say?

TWHolt

To me this song is a Prequel to Sad...the man waits for her but she doesn't get through...

In Sad he realizes she didn't make it but still he lies in bed "hoping that dreams will bring her back"

Right now my favorite on the album.

rebornFixer

cannotstaylong wrote:

Yeah, pretty much just wah. I don't hear the You Are similarity that much, at least not effects-wise. I still go back to No Way for more of a similarity. Not the song in general at all, but the opening guitar riff. Sounds somewhat similar to me... but who am I to say?

I'm with ya ... Mike also likes his digital delay and his phaser, but this is wah with maybe a little overdrive added for flavour.