10 club members get the nose bleeds 08/23/09

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  • PJStatTracker
    PJStatTracker Posts: 2,400
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

    300XXX have gotten some great side seats over the years.....and will continue to do so....

    agreed...just not when the arena is half full with 10c members...
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  • simpleman
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    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    simpleman wrote:
    With all due respect, anyone expecting "great seats" after joining the club post 1999, is just plain high... So for a 300xxx and certainly a 400xxx to be bitching, it's silly. Your reasons for joining should have been the single and Deep magazine. Your ticket purchases should be thru Ticketmaster or elsewhere. Sorry to say it this way.... These shows have taken the souls out of some people here. Everyone at this point feels that much more entitled to this band than the next guy. That's bogus. Now you know there is a chance in the future you may not be happy with your seats. So next time, buy elsewhere. I promise the Ten Club won't mind... or care for that matter. Peace, Mike
    Disagree...

    300XXX have gotten some great side seats over the years.....and will continue to do so....
    Speedy, I'm pretty sure your some kind of someone around these parts, so I'm not arguing. That being said, I find myself reading all this shit, realizing that yes an 18 year old was not going to join when he was 3, but to join now and bitch about the seats is just retarded. It's common sense. Yes, I realize in some venues, the high numbers get decent side stage seats, but it's fairly rare. I'm ranting and have read too many pages of this thread...... hope everyone is happier at their next show...
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  • SL169704
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    simpleman wrote:
    With all due respect, anyone expecting "great seats" after joining the club post 1999, is just plain high... So for a 300xxx and certainly a 400xxx to be bitching, it's silly. Your reasons for joining should have been the single and Deep magazine. Your ticket purchases should be thru Ticketmaster or elsewhere. Sorry to say it this way.... These shows have taken the souls out of some people here. Everyone at this point feels that much more entitled to this band than the next guy. That's bogus. Now you know there is a chance in the future you may not be happy with your seats. So next time, buy elsewhere. I promise the Ten Club won't mind... or care for that matter. Peace, Mike

    I think people just want to be told ahead of time if they are getting 3rd level seating. That's all. Don't even give refunds, don't give specific seat locations, just give people the courtesy of knowing BEFORE they travel that hey, we have a lot of 10C members at this show, and because of your shitty 10C number, you WILL have nose bleed seats. Is that too much to ask? Then, the person has the option of either accepting what they were dealt, skipping the show, or trying their luck on TM. However, if they DID give refunds, there would be a happier person in the seat, which is a good thing.

    I'd like to make the specific point that for both Chicago 1 and 2, there were good seats available from TM right up until the shows started. Had I known a few days before the show that I was 3rd level, back of the bus, I would have trolled TM. If I had known a few weeks before, I would have skipped the show and gone to SLC instead, where the show is not even near selling out.

    10C: You have the OPPORTUNITY to prevent another round of very pissed off fans. If some or all of the Philly or Seattle or other venue shows are in the same situation where 3XXXXX+ members are going to be in the rafters, TELL THEM NOW. That way, you won't get another round of people spending a ton of money and time to travel to a show where they resent the seats. I'm guessing you saw reduced merchandise sales at Chicago 1. Why? Because people were so pissed about being 3rd level. You'd be better off financially, and have more goodwill from fans, to tell them now, and if they want to opt out, release the seats to TM where people know what they are buying. Not even 10% of the people going to Philly probably even know about the Chicago debacle. Put happier people in the seats, and there will be a better crowd vibe at the show.
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  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
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    simpleman wrote:
    Speedy, I'm pretty sure your some kind of someone around these parts, so I'm not arguing. That being said, I find myself reading all this shit, realizing that yes an 18 year old was not going to join when he was 3, but to join now and bitch about the seats is just retarded. It's common sense. Yes, I realize in some venues, the high numbers get decent side stage seats, but it's fairly rare. I'm ranting and have read too many pages of this thread...... hope everyone is happier at their next show...
    Im not here to argue...
    Its all good...
    And I am a nobody here....Im just another idiot....hehehehehe

    I agree with you....People with high numbers 350xxx-450xxx CAN NOT expect anything other than 3rd section seats, at a heavily attented venue like Chicago or Philly.

    BUT....

    They will get GREAT seats at MOST of the other shows....By GREAT, I mean, kick ass side seats, in the 1st or 2nd section from the stage.
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  • chromiam
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    SL169704 wrote:
    10C: You have the OPPORTUNITY to prevent another round of very pissed off fans. If some or all of the Philly or Seattle or other venue shows are in the same situation where 3XXXXX+ members are going to be in the rafters, TELL THEM NOW. That way, you won't get another round of people spending a ton of money and time to travel to a show where they resent the seats. I'm guessing you saw reduced merchandise sales at Chicago 1. Why? Because people were so pissed about being 3rd level. You'd be better off financially, and have more goodwill from fans, to tell them now, and if they want to opt out, release the seats to TM where people know what they are buying. Not even 10% of the people going to Philly probably even know about the Chicago debacle. Put happier people in the seats, and there will be a better crowd vibe at the show.

    They have already told everyone who bought tickets for the Philly show that there is more than the normal allotment and that seats after the normal allocation could be comparable to best available thru TM.. which means not everyone will be sitting on the floor or in the first level.

    And people buy merchandise because they want to not because they have good or bad seats or pissed off because someone with an afro is sitting in front of them.
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  • Gern Blansten
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    this was the guy in front of me....I want my money back
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  • RC153010
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    My membership is 308. I went to Virgina beach and was not on the floor or close to floor. Therefore, ten club and santos is telling lies. I had floor seats for the new jersey concert, go figure. This is 100% true. So I do not know what the hell is going on. It may bean inside job. I am just drinking for philly, I dont care where my seats are andPearl jam can play even flow 28 times for all i care, at least i can drink and go to bathroom
  • SL169704
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    chromiam wrote:
    SL169704 wrote:
    10C: You have the OPPORTUNITY to prevent another round of very pissed off fans. If some or all of the Philly or Seattle or other venue shows are in the same situation where 3XXXXX+ members are going to be in the rafters, TELL THEM NOW. That way, you won't get another round of people spending a ton of money and time to travel to a show where they resent the seats. I'm guessing you saw reduced merchandise sales at Chicago 1. Why? Because people were so pissed about being 3rd level. You'd be better off financially, and have more goodwill from fans, to tell them now, and if they want to opt out, release the seats to TM where people know what they are buying. Not even 10% of the people going to Philly probably even know about the Chicago debacle. Put happier people in the seats, and there will be a better crowd vibe at the show.

    They have already told everyone who bought tickets for the Philly show that there is more than the normal allotment and that seats after the normal allocation could be comparable to best available thru TM.. which means not everyone will be sitting on the floor or in the first level.

    And people buy merchandise because they want to not because they have good or bad seats or pissed off because someone with an afro is sitting in front of them.


    I'll say it again. People are obviously not getting the message.

    The 34XXXX+ seats at Chicago 1 were not "comparable to best available thru TM". They were WAY WORSE than the AVERAGE TM SEATS. Does everyone understand? Do you get it now? The average TM seats were 200 level, while THOUSANDS of 10C members were on the 300 level. And, there were walkups available AT THE WINDOW, day of show, that were TWO LEVELS down from 10C seats.

    WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT NOT GETTING FLOOR OR FIRST LEVEL. If the situation at Philly is the same as Chicago 1, there will be thousands of 10C people in the 400 level at Philly, which I have been told really, really sucks.

    Do you think the people going to Philly know this?
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  • chromiam
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    SL169704 wrote:
    chromiam wrote:
    SL169704 wrote:
    10C: You have the OPPORTUNITY to prevent another round of very pissed off fans. If some or all of the Philly or Seattle or other venue shows are in the same situation where 3XXXXX+ members are going to be in the rafters, TELL THEM NOW. That way, you won't get another round of people spending a ton of money and time to travel to a show where they resent the seats. I'm guessing you saw reduced merchandise sales at Chicago 1. Why? Because people were so pissed about being 3rd level. You'd be better off financially, and have more goodwill from fans, to tell them now, and if they want to opt out, release the seats to TM where people know what they are buying. Not even 10% of the people going to Philly probably even know about the Chicago debacle. Put happier people in the seats, and there will be a better crowd vibe at the show.

    They have already told everyone who bought tickets for the Philly show that there is more than the normal allotment and that seats after the normal allocation could be comparable to best available thru TM.. which means not everyone will be sitting on the floor or in the first level.

    And people buy merchandise because they want to not because they have good or bad seats or pissed off because someone with an afro is sitting in front of them.


    I'll say it again. People are obviously not getting the message.

    The seats at Chicago 1 were not "comparable to best available thru TM". The were WAY WORSE than the AVERAGE TM SEATS. Does everyone understand? Do you get it now? There were walkups available AT THE WINDOW, day of show, that were TWO LEVELS down from 10C seats. The average TM seats were 200 level, while THOUSANDS of 10C members were on the 300 level.

    WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT NOT GETTING FLOOR OR FIRST LEVEL. If the situation at Philly is the same as Chicago 1, there will be thousands of 10C people in the 400 level at Philly, which I have been told really, really sucks.

    Do you think the people going to Philly know this?

    Here is where you are not getting it... You are talking about people walking up to the box office and hoping that there are tickets available (granted there usually are some released but not always) and then saying that they were the best available thru TM.

    What I am saying (and what I believe the 10C is saying) is that the best available at the time of the public onsale... not tickets released days before a show when the stage is setup, not tickets released by the venue, but tickets available when the public onsale occurs.

    And the 400 level at the Spectrum are hardly horrible seats... are they the best?? no but the sightlines are still fairly good as well as the sound.
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  • RC153010
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    Your right. I gave my ten club tickets to my friends and took there single ticket from tm. tm tickets were better than ten club. no one understands that. They just want to get in to hear the music, I want good seats not floor just average.
  • SL169704
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    chromiam wrote:

    Here is where you are not getting it... You are talking about people walking up to the box office and hoping that there are tickets available (granted there usually are some released but not always) and then saying that they were the best available thru TM.

    What I am saying (and what I believe the 10C is saying) is that the best available at the time of the public onsale... not tickets released days before a show when the stage is setup, not tickets released by the venue, but tickets available when the public onsale occurs.

    And the 400 level at the Spectrum are hardly horrible seats... are they the best?? no but the sightlines are still fairly good as well as the sound.


    Look, you obviously don't know the whole story. The public, onsale TM seats for Chicago 1 were mostly 200 level. Wild's post confirmed that. If you went on to TM the day the tickets went on sale, you were probably given 200 level, although there were even some 100 level and floor seats that went through TM. If your 10C number was 34XXXX or higher, you WERE in the 300 level unless you won the lottery. There are even some people claiming to be lower than 34XXXX that were up there, but whatever.

    You may be OK with 400 level at Philly, but if you were traveling from, say , Boston, wouldn't you want to know AHEAD of time, so that you could try TM for a better seat or a different show, or save the cash and not travel? How is this unreasonable?
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  • zolstice
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    SL169704 wrote:
    Look, you obviously don't know the whole story. The public, onsale TM seats for Chicago 1 were mostly 200 level. Wild's post confirmed that. If you went on to TM the day the tickets went on sale, you were probably given 200 level, although there were even some 100 level and floor seats that went through TM. If your 10C number was 34XXXX or higher, you WERE in the 300 level unless you won the lottery. There are even some people claiming to be lower than 34XXXX that were up there, but whatever.

    You may be OK with 400 level at Philly, but if you were traveling from, say , Boston, wouldn't you want to know AHEAD of time, so that you could try TM for a better seat or a different show, or save the cash and not travel? How is this unreasonable?

    First of all, Wild's post doesn't confirm anything, it is just an estimation of what the likely situation was, based on some very limited data.

    The 200 level in the United Center is the club level seating if I'm not mistaken. That means a lot of those tickets were likely spoken for before the Public Onsale even happened.

    But that's not even the point of my post. I bought 10C seats, and have a 169xxx number. Ihad great seats (1st row in section 112 on night 1, section 113 night 2, thank you very much 10C). However, knowing that it was going to be a high demand concert, I bought those tickets knowing that it was very likely I would have the worst 10C tickets I've ever purchased (turns out they were some of the best, much better than being at the back of the floor which I've been more than a few times). So when the public onsale happened, myself and the friend I was travelling with to Chicago, along with about 6 other people that we enlisted to help, tried our luck at bying tickets through Ticketmaster. Th e instructions I gave everyone was that if anything came up in the 100 level, or lower 200 level, they should buy two tickets. Anything worse than that and they shouldn't bother.

    Guess how many extra tickets were purchased. 0. The only tickets we could bring up during the public on sale were 300 level tickets. Sure, some people were obviously able to get good TM tickets, that's going to happen, but you can't be garaunteed of that going into the onsale.
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  • pjtaper
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    first night I was 2nd row off the floor, mike's side... awesome seat, same as MSG. night 2 i was 20th row.. I have a decent number, usually between 3-10th row... I didn't complain, I knew I wouldn't be able to see JACK SHIT from the 20th row, and I found a 10C member with a pair off the floor who was tall, he was VERY happy to trade pairs...
    tickets are never guaranteed, I've had some FRONT ROW ten club seats on the floor and I couldn't see anything besides the PA... it's always a gamble, that's why you have to hit a lot of shows, you are bound to win!!!
  • RC153010
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    Did you select best available?
  • hopethatuchoke
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    RC153010 wrote:
    My membership is 308. I went to Virgina beach and was not on the floor or close to floor. Therefore, ten club and santos is telling lies. I had floor seats for the new jersey concert, go figure. This is 100% true. So I do not know what the hell is going on. It may bean inside job. I am just drinking for philly, I dont care where my seats are andPearl jam can play even flow 28 times for all i care, at least i can drink and go to bathroom


    Based on your post, I think you may be drinking for the message board too
  • hopethatuchoke
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    chromiam wrote:
    And the 400 level at the Spectrum are hardly horrible seats... are they the best?? no but the sightlines are still fairly good as well as the sound.


    I will have to disagree there. I was up in the 400 level for a hockey game last year and the sound was TERRIBLE. I couldn't hear a thing up there.
  • pjtaper
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    haha, at first, I thought this was going to be about my friend Jon, who had a bad nose bleed on the way to the Sun Preparty and came in bloody..
    Good to see you in Chi, Speedy, you hitting any other shows?
  • chromiam
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    hopethatuchoke wrote:
    chromiam wrote:
    And the 400 level at the Spectrum are hardly horrible seats... are they the best?? no but the sightlines are still fairly good as well as the sound.


    I will have to disagree there. I was up in the 400 level for a hockey game last year and the sound was TERRIBLE. I couldn't hear a thing up there.

    The PA system and the sound system for a concert are not one in the same.... the Spectrum is known for have great acoustics for concerts.
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    Bathgate66 wrote:
    does anyone know the latest membership numbers issued out by 10C?

    Have we / they hit 500,000 yet ?

    I signed my kid up a few weeks ago. She's 440xxx
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    RC153010 wrote:
    My membership is 308. I went to Virgina beach and was not on the floor or close to floor. Therefore, ten club and santos is telling lies. I had floor seats for the new jersey concert, go figure. This is 100% true. So I do not know what the hell is going on. It may bean inside job. I am just drinking for philly, I dont care where my seats are andPearl jam can play even flow 28 times for all i care, at least i can drink and go to bathroom

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    According to Stat Tracker ALL of the ten club seats for this show were in the Orchestra or in sections 101, 102, and 103.

    I didn't see anyone with a seat worse than row K.

    There was no floor at this show. What do you mean by "Santos was telling lies".

    That statement sounds absurd.

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