EV Videos-Vancouver

sitting at home, not being able to make it to the shows, not hearing/seeing Ed solo....

i love seeing these videos pop up...

thanks everybody involved!!!

If you allow people to post the vids then you just encourage more people to tape the shows .....making the live experience less enjoyable for those in attendance.

brainofPJ wrote:

sitting at home, not being able to make it to the shows, not hearing/seeing Ed solo....

i love seeing these videos pop up...

thanks everybody involved!!!

I'm with you.
Camera phones are annoying, but this one was a 'pro' camera one and they're far more discreet..

and it's nice for those of us not there to be able to get an idea of what the show was like (second hands accounts don't say it like a video).

But I can live without videos... what I'm really waiting for are the audios!
But if 10c stamps on those like on the Vids, I'm going to be seriously disappointed in Ed :(

rybes wrote:

Would you want your picture snapped with flashes going off constantly at a short distance? No... so why do it to someone else? I thought common sense would have been good enough, but I like the new rules.

I agree. I think the new rules are good, even though it sounds like they aren't being followed.

I don't understand why it is so hard for people to understand why they are taking the videos off youtube. Why would they say no cameras and then allow people to post videos they recorded secretly?

There is something to be said for just being in the moment and having an experience with a group of people and music that cannot be seen on youtube the day after the show.

rrivers wrote:

I agree. I think the new rules are good, even though it sounds like they aren't being followed.

I don't understand why it is so hard for people to understand why they are taking the videos off youtube. Why would they say no cameras and then allow people to post videos they recorded secretly?

There is something to be said for just being in the moment and having an experience with a group of people and music that cannot be seen on youtube the day after the show.

because type Pearl Jam, or even Eddie Vedder in and there's a billion videos there of gigs.
the no video policy has always existed.

in the last few months, 10c and the mods seemed to have become even less bothered about videos tradings and links (even before Jeff said he didn't mind YT)...the basecamp part of the forums has been basically taken over by traders and B&Pers, of DVDs even more than audio.

so for them to not just remove links here, but have the video officially taken down from YT, it's drastic! even videos of 'unmentionables' are left alone on YT!

not that it's going to be of any use, on the contrary:
censorship creates MORE interest in what's censored. pushing people who would have had no interest in it to go looking for it, just because it's not allowed...that's the original sin remember

power to the people.

zootown wrote:

I personally think it's sort of obvious. The 10c doesn't want the shows recorded, and if someone is assinine to post vids the day after the show, well, I applaud the 10c for spoiling their fun. This societal voyuerism that has taken hold in this country is really quite disturbing, I for one are glad 10c is standing up and saying enough!

OK..."societal voyeurism?" I think we're being a little overly dramatic. It's not like these people put videotapes in dressing rooms; the guy is onstage performing in front of thousands of people, I wouldn't really feel guilty of 'voyeurism' since the videos are, after all, from public performances. After all, we're all a little hypocritical here; I would bet everyone in this thread, at one time or another has watched footage of a PJ show shot by an audience member.

I think it's probably happening for one or two reasons; 1, they want to dissuade more people taping the shows or 2, they have a professional release planned further down the line. I doubt it is number 2, and hope it's not, since they'd be thinking more with their pocketbooks then for respect for audience and performer. But venue and artist are totally within their right to outlaw it.

That being said, it is a shame that those who will have no way to see these shows will not be able to see any of these performances unless there is a professional release. I'd love to see how these shows look and sound and I don't see how my knowing how these shows sounds 'cheapens' the feel for the concert-goers.

Also, I think it is a bit ironic how they can hire someone to make sure these videos are taken down from youtube within minutes, but yet they find it difficult to find someone who can adjust the damn server to handle the traffic come tour time.

Pegasus wrote:

because type Pearl Jam, or even Eddie Vedder in and there's a billion videos there of gigs.
the no video policy has always existed.

in the last few months, 10c and the mods seemed to have become even less bothered about videos tradings and links (even before Jeff said he didn't mind YT)...the basecamp part of the forums has been basically taken over by traders and B&Pers, of DVDs even more than audio.

so for them to not just remove links here, but have the video officially taken down from YT, it's drastic! even videos of 'unmentionables' are left alone on YT!

not that it's going to be of any use, on the contrary:
censorship creates MORE interest in what's censored. pushing people who would have had no interest in it to go looking for it, just because it's not allowed...that's the original sin remember

power to the people.

While the video policy has always existed, they went out of their way to say no to cameras, videos, etc. And then you still wonder why they would take videos off youtube.

More to the point is what I posted earlier:

There is something to be said for just being in the moment and having an experience with a group of people and music that cannot be seen on youtube the day after the show.

And I seriously doubt there will be a full length video officially released. Maybe a song as an extra on a full band DVD later.

I totally agree with the new policy!

I hate it when people in front of hold up their camera or cell phone to film or take pictures.

From an on stage perspective......the crowd dynamics must have changed so much during the last 5 years. Look at the last PJ DVD and compare it with TB 2000. I think recently a lot of people look at the show through their cell phone while filming Eddie singing instead of watching what is really going on on stage.....

My opinion anyways.....

I have no problem with them taking down these video's and I hope they continue to do so. Hopefully this will discourage people from standing in the crowd with their camera/cell phone in the air for an entire show just so they have something to post on YouTube/Facebook.
I was recently at the Foo Fighters show in Toronto and it was out of control....every Tom, Dick and Harry was recording the show with their camera's or cell phones. I have no desire to waste my time recording the show when I'm actually there experiencing it. The guy in front of me recorded the entire 2nd half of the show and I was forced to have this stupid LCD display in front of me all night. I came to watch the Foo's live...not through your stupid cell phone.

YouTube is ruining live music....thats a fact...Jack....