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  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    count me in. whenever an individual or institution is given power they fuck it up. every time. we need to find a system that accounts for power corrupting, and libertarian is a good place to start.


    the problem is corporations are institutions with authority-companies like wallmart make more money than countries like Greece, and they don't sit on that power. they spread, like a goddamn virus.

    so libertarian capitalism is out. if there is any doubts as to whether or not the free market is best for society, study US history in the 1900's. it failed. the workers rights we enjoy today were paid for in blood.


    capitalism, where profit is more important than life or the environment. fuck all that.


    i'm a libertarian socialist, small government, share the wealth, etc.
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    Commy wrote:
    share the wealth, etc

    Hey commy, I was wondering if you would help me out with my rent this month Im a little short.
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Commy wrote:
    share the wealth, etc

    Hey commy, I was wondering if you would help me out with my rent this month Im a little short.


    yeah because that makes sense.


    its about labor, and being compensated fairly for it.


    guaranteed the coal miners are sweating more for that coal than the fatcats in their offices. but the fatcats are the guys making all the profit. and fuck all that. that's what i was referring too.
  • VINNY GOOMBA
    VINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,825
    Commy wrote:
    count me in. whenever an individual or institution is given power they fuck it up. every time. we need to find a system that accounts for power corrupting, and libertarian is a good place to start.


    the problem is corporations are institutions with authority-companies like wallmart make more money than countries like Greece, and they don't sit on that power. they spread, like a goddamn virus.

    so libertarian capitalism is out. if there is any doubts as to whether or not the free market is best for society, study US history in the 1900's. it failed. the workers rights we enjoy today were paid for in blood.


    capitalism, where profit is more important than life or the environment. fuck all that.


    i'm a libertarian socialist, small government, share the wealth, etc.

    It is my personal belief that if you first limit the size of government and leave more money in the hands of the people, that the people WILL be more charitable to the causes of their choice.
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    Commy wrote:
    count me in. whenever an individual or institution is given power they fuck it up. every time. we need to find a system that accounts for power corrupting, and libertarian is a good place to start.


    the problem is corporations are institutions with authority-companies like wallmart make more money than countries like Greece, and they don't sit on that power. they spread, like a goddamn virus.

    so libertarian capitalism is out. if there is any doubts as to whether or not the free market is best for society, study US history in the 1900's. it failed. the workers rights we enjoy today were paid for in blood.


    capitalism, where profit is more important than life or the environment. fuck all that.


    i'm a libertarian socialist, small government, share the wealth, etc.

    It is my personal belief that if you first limit the size of government and leave more money in the hands of the people, that the people WILL be more charitable to the causes of their choice.


    i wonder about that. its a good theory, and people for the most part are good, i believe, but if there is no motivation for doing something, most of the time that something doesn't get done. i believe.

    if people are compensated fairly for their labor, say under a libertarian socialist model, and if that labor benefits something other than a corporation or an individual, if that labor benefits a community instead, directly, a motivator emerges. its in an individuals best interest to help their neighbor, because their neighbor is laboring for the benefit of the community. you help the neighbor, you help the community- and ultimately yourself, which is kind of important.


    good theory, you could be right. i would leave nothing to chance, were it up to me.
  • PearlJain
    PearlJain Posts: 565
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Sorry Pearl Jain, but I can't help but hear Chris Farley when reading your posts now. :lol:

    Sorry to you as well - Jenwah - I want to do laundry and thoroughly clean/bleach my house when I read any of YOUR posts. FUNNY as hell - isn't it?
    The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated - Gandhi

    "Empty pockets will Allow a greater Sense of wealth...." EV/ITW
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    PearlJain wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Sorry Pearl Jain, but I can't help but hear Chris Farley when reading your posts now. :lol:

    Sorry to you as well - Jenwah - I want to do laundry and thoroughly clean/bleach my house when I read any of YOUR posts. FUNNY as hell - isn't it?
    You don't have much of a sense of humor, do you? Lighten up. :D
  • PearlJain
    PearlJain Posts: 565
    Of course I have a sense of humor. See the Chris Farley Flack I've been taking. I get it. I was not trying to be offensive to you. If you're going to dish it (when you agree and/or make a comment) then - please be able to take it. I'm just handing it back is all. Do I truly feel this way about you ( of course not) although the Chris Farley comments are still being made about me. It's all good. And it remains very funny - even to me!
    I will always be a Chris Farley fan! Much love to you. Seriously.
    The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated - Gandhi

    "Empty pockets will Allow a greater Sense of wealth...." EV/ITW
  • PearlJain
    PearlJain Posts: 565
    PearlJain wrote:

    "Vinnie Goomba" That is such a funny "user name." You sound all "mafia."

    "What" "mafia" "are" "you" "talking" "about?" "I" "don't" "know" "anything" "about" "this" "mafia" "you" "speak" "of..." ;)

    Because I'm Irish. I still think you rock!
    The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated - Gandhi

    "Empty pockets will Allow a greater Sense of wealth...." EV/ITW
  • PearlJain
    PearlJain Posts: 565
    PearlJain wrote:
    PearlJain wrote:

    "Vinnie Goomba" That is such a funny "user name." You sound all "mafia."

    "What" "mafia" "are" "you" "talking" "about?" "I" "don't" "know" "anything" "about" "this" "mafia" "you" "speak" "of..." ;)

    Because I'm Irish. I still think you rock!

    Your comments (like numerous others) make me laugh. I really like to laugh. Despite differences.
    The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated - Gandhi

    "Empty pockets will Allow a greater Sense of wealth...." EV/ITW
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    PearlJain wrote:
    Of course I have a sense of humor. See the Chris Farley Flack I've been taking. I get it. I was not trying to be offensive to you. If you're going to dish it (when you agree and/or make a comment) then - please be able to take it. I'm just handing it back is all. Do I truly feel this way about you ( of course not) although the Chris Farley comments are still being made about me. It's all good. And it remains very funny - even to me!
    I will always be a Chris Farley fan! Much love to you. Seriously.
    Good to know. :) Sometimes it's hard to tell through written words if a person is either upset or just sarcastic. I can take it! Us wiseguys should be able to take it if we can dish it out. And I honestly thought the Farley connection was just plain funny.
  • RW81233
    RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    Commy wrote:
    count me in. whenever an individual or institution is given power they fuck it up. every time. we need to find a system that accounts for power corrupting, and libertarian is a good place to start.


    the problem is corporations are institutions with authority-companies like wallmart make more money than countries like Greece, and they don't sit on that power. they spread, like a goddamn virus.

    so libertarian capitalism is out. if there is any doubts as to whether or not the free market is best for society, study US history in the 1900's. it failed. the workers rights we enjoy today were paid for in blood.


    capitalism, where profit is more important than life or the environment. fuck all that.


    i'm a libertarian socialist, small government, share the wealth, etc.

    It is my personal belief that if you first limit the size of government and leave more money in the hands of the people, that the people WILL be more charitable to the causes of their choice.

    I think this is where we disagree most...we tried that in America (not the perfect kind) since Reagan, and now rich people are richer than ever and they ain't helping shit.
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    Rand Paul on with The Judge
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzoxRr24N5U
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    JB811 wrote:




    people should not have to pay to live. fuck that system. we have the ability to take care of every person in this country, the resources are available. instead we drop a few trillion on expanding the empire in the middle east.

    We have hundreds of billions for Haliburton. And Lockeed and Raytheon and Blackwater.

    what a fucked up country this is, where people would rather see troops in afghanstan killing for an empire instead of universal health care.


    i would rather my tax dollars went to saving lives, not taking them.
  • PearlJain
    PearlJain Posts: 565
    Commy wrote:
    count me in. whenever an individual or institution is given power they fuck it up. every time. we need to find a system that accounts for power corrupting, and libertarian is a good place to start.


    the problem is corporations are institutions with authority-companies like wallmart make more money than countries like Greece, and they don't sit on that power. they spread, like a goddamn virus.

    so libertarian capitalism is out. if there is any doubts as to whether or not the free market is best for society, study US history in the 1900's. it failed. the workers rights we enjoy today were paid for in blood.


    capitalism, where profit is more important than life or the environment. fuck all that.


    i'm a libertarian socialist, small government, share the wealth, etc.

    There's lots of counties that are already doing the "Socialist" thing. You should really consider moving to one of them. I extend my offer to help you pack.
    The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated - Gandhi

    "Empty pockets will Allow a greater Sense of wealth...." EV/ITW
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    RW81233 wrote:
    Commy wrote:
    count me in. whenever an individual or institution is given power they fuck it up. every time. we need to find a system that accounts for power corrupting, and libertarian is a good place to start.

    the problem is corporations are institutions with authority-companies like walmart make more money than countries like Greece, and they don't sit on that power. they spread, like a goddamn virus.

    so libertarian capitalism is out. if there is any doubts as to whether or not the free market is best for society, study US history in the 1900's. it failed. the workers rights we enjoy today were paid for in blood.

    capitalism, where profit is more important than life or the environment. fuck all that.

    i'm a libertarian socialist, small government, share the wealth, etc.

    It is my personal belief that if you first limit the size of government and leave more money in the hands of the people, that the people WILL be more charitable to the causes of their choice.

    I think this is where we disagree most...we tried that in America (not the perfect kind) since Reagan, and now rich people are richer than ever and they ain't helping shit.
    Which is why if we left things totally up to the population with no gov't in charge (hence Libertarianism), nothing would get done, but the rich would certainly get richer, and the poor would definately get poorer.

    As far as what Commy said above, I agree. There's no such thing as a truly Free Market anymore. And capitalism, in the end, when all the resources are gone in the world because we've used it all up in order to capitalize and globalize on, will implode on itself. We're using them all up as we speak. Money is not the end all, be all. Life is.