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Have any of you people, that are saying this song is a rip off of a Devo song, stopped to think that maybe Devo heard this Pearl Jam song in 2009, built a time machine, and then traveled back to the 70's and recorded a song kind of like it.
Have any of you people, that are saying this song is a rip off of a Devo song, stopped to think that maybe Devo heard this Pearl Jam song in 2009, built a time machine, and then traveled back to the 70's and recorded a song kind of like it.
Of everything I've ever read in my entire life... This seems the most plausible.
"A lot more people are capable of being big out there that just don't give themselves a chance." -Stone Gossard
Allan Cross did a show on a topic like this a while back. It's definitely worth looking up if you get a chance. He compares a lot of songs by other bands, and he goes through some cases that actually ended up in lawsuits.
Some of them are:
Offspring/Beatles
Chillie Peppers/Tom Petty
Nickleback/Nickleback
A lot of pearl jam songs have been influenced by others:
Bushleaguer - I believe in Miracles
Ledbetter - Little Wing
Given To Fly - Goin' to Callifornia
I Got Shit - Cinamon Girl
Got Some - That Devo Song?
Footsteps - Times of Trouble (doesn't really count)
For some reason I feel like this list is missing something, but I can't put my finger on it???
my friend was playing the alive solo for me and he says the main riff in the solo is straight out of a doors song
my friend was playing the alive solo for me and he says the main riff in the solo is straight out of a doors song
It's a Kiss song which Mike has openly acknowledged as being an homage to Ace Frehley. Can't remember the name of the song, but it's not even the entire song, just this one lick from a solo.
"A lot more people are capable of being big out there that just don't give themselves a chance." -Stone Gossard
Allan Cross did a show on a topic like this a while back. It's definitely worth looking up if you get a chance. He compares a lot of songs by other bands, and he goes through some cases that actually ended up in lawsuits.
Some of them are:
Offspring/Beatles
Chillie Peppers/Tom Petty
Nickleback/Nickleback
A lot of pearl jam songs have been influenced by others:
Bushleaguer - I believe in Miracles
Ledbetter - Little Wing
Given To Fly - Goin' to Callifornia
I Got Shit - Cinamon Girl
Got Some - That Devo Song?
Footsteps - Times of Trouble (doesn't really count)
For some reason I feel like this list is missing something, but I can't put my finger on it???
my friend was playing the alive solo for me and he says the main riff in the solo is straight out of a doors song
Here's the quote from the "100 greatest guitar solos" that Guitar World released back in 98:
Alive, #44, McCready:
“Basically, I copied Ace Frehley’s solo from ‘She,’ ” says Pearl Jam guitarist Mike McCready. “Which, of course, was copied from Robby Krieger’s solo in the Doors’ ‘Five to One.’ ”
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Here's the quote from the "100 greatest guitar solos" that Guitar World released back in 98:
Alive, #44, McCready:
“Basically, I copied Ace Frehley’s solo from ‘She,’ ” says Pearl Jam guitarist Mike McCready. “Which, of course, was copied from Robby Krieger’s solo in the Doors’ ‘Five to One.’ ”
Don't worry, it seems that you're not crazy!
Nice find.
"A lot more people are capable of being big out there that just don't give themselves a chance." -Stone Gossard
Here's the quote from the "100 greatest guitar solos" that Guitar World released back in 98:
Alive, #44, McCready:
“Basically, I copied Ace Frehley’s solo from ‘She,’ ” says Pearl Jam guitarist Mike McCready. “Which, of course, was copied from Robby Krieger’s solo in the Doors’ ‘Five to One.’ ”
Don't worry, it seems that you're not crazy!
Nice find.
Don't know why but I just remembered that quote. I remember bying the issue back in 98 and going through all the solos to see if McCready was in there. Let's say I was a bit disapointed to see his quote; I was expecting a more interesting story behind the solos 'cause everyone else had a great one for their own solos! That's how stupid you can be when you're 18! It's at the same time that I got interested in old bands, especially punk bands like Minuteman, The Clash, Gang of Four and Fugazi (which were still around) and that I could see how many bands were taking ideas from older bands. I already had a great idea of what "ripping off" meant when Creed and bands like Godsmack showed up and basically "stealing" everything from Pearl Jam and Alice In Chains... in a really bad way. But others were just pushing the enveloppe in a better way. PJ was a good exemple with Satan's Bed which could've been a Dead Boys song. Soundgarden with Sabbath, Radiohead with Pink Floyd and Talking Heads, etc.
That's why I don't really care if PJ's new song sounds a bit like Devo because I see it more as a sign of respect and (maybe) trying to diverse the public into other bands that should have more respect than a sign of wanting to steal something out of them.
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That's why I don't really care if PJ's new song sounds a bit like Devo because I see it more as a sign of respect and (maybe) trying to diverse the public into other bands that should have more respect than a sign of wanting to steal something out of them.
This is a good point.
Pearl Jam has always worn their influences on their sleeve. I've always felt that this was more of a nod to their influences rather than a complete rip off.
Ed mentioned in either the Rolling Stone article or the Jools Holland interview -I can't remember which one- that Pearl Jam was merely an extention of past bands like The Who, Neil Young, Beatles and The Stones. They work from the foundation built by these past artists and come up with something all their own.
There is a big difference between the way Pearl Jam approaches this and the way Creed or Nickelback approach it.
there's a line between a real "ripoff" and direct "influences" that can sometimes be hard to pin down.
I see this as a pretty similar situation to 'Spin the Black Circle' (arguably PJ's premiere punk tune). It's very close to Husker Du's 'Beyond the Threshold', from the legendary Zen Arcade, an album quite like Q: Are We not Men? A: We are Devo! in the sense that both are seminal alternative punk albums from well-respected but not crazy-popular bands. I think if rock bands today are leaning twords those types of influences, to me that is a very good thing. did anyone get all up in arms when Kurt Cobain literally admitted that 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' was a direct attempt at a ripoff of the Pixies?
You know, after all these years of Rock music, big deal.
I have always enjoyed hearing PJ's influences come through. They pay homage to the people that laid the ground work. Good for them. Is it any secret that Pearl Jam were heavily influenced by Punk? Devo is a great band and if you are going to pay homage or be influenced by a band, why not a band like Devo? Pretty sure that is a DEVO t-shirt Ed is wearing.
How anyone can say otherwise after having a listen needs their head examined. Listen to Devo's "Gut Feeling" AT LEAST until the 2 minute mark of this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YievWIX9AKk
It's as blatant as Jack White/White Stripes' "Hardest Button to Button" ripoff of seminal Detroit punk rocker Mick Collins and his old band The Gories' "Sovereignty Fight."
You know, after all these years of Rock music, big deal.
I have always enjoyed hearing PJ's influences come through. They pay homage to the people that laid the ground work. Good for them. Is it any secret that Pearl Jam were heavily influenced by Punk? Devo is a great band and if you are going to pay homage or be influenced by a band, why not a band like Devo? Pretty sure that is a DEVO t-shirt Ed is wearing.
Nice find on that pic .... another band I love, Buffalo Tom, have covered DEVO live, and this picture reminded me that on the back of BT's debut album, drummer Tom MaGinnis wa swearing a DEVO shirt on the reverse side picture of the band ... can't find that pic on the back of the album on line but it was this album ...
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I don't think they purposely set out to steal it, but the comparisons are very, very, very similar. Chord progression is pretty much identical, and the "Got some if you need it" sounds exactly like the "I got a gut feeling." Exact.
If they managed to avoid getting sued for Given to Fly, they can probably avoid getting sued for this one. Probably.
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You know, after all these years of Rock music, big deal.
I have always enjoyed hearing PJ's influences come through. They pay homage to the people that laid the ground work. Good for them. Is it any secret that Pearl Jam were heavily influenced by Punk? Devo is a great band and if you are going to pay homage or be influenced by a band, why not a band like Devo? Pretty sure that is a DEVO t-shirt Ed is wearing.
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"Hey Hey, My My (Into the Black)" is a rock song by Neil Young. Combined with its acoustic counterpart "My My, Hey Hey (Out of the Blue)", it bookends Young's successful 1979 album Rust Never Sleeps. Inspired by proto-new wave group Devo, the rise of punk and what Young viewed as his own growing irrelevance, the song today crosses generations, inspiring admirers from punk to grunge and significantly revitalizing Young's then-faltering career. The song is about the alternatives of continuing to produce similar music ("to rust" or — in "My My, Hey Hey (Out of the Blue)" — "to fade away") or to burn out, as John Lydon of the Sex Pistols did by abandoning his Johnny Rotten persona.
A part of a lyric from the song, "it's better to burn out than to fade away," became infamous in modern rock after being quoted in Nirvana frontman Kurt Cobain's suicide note. Young later said that he was so shaken that he dedicated his 1994 album Sleeps with Angels to Cobain.
"Out of the blue and into the black" was a Vietnam War-era phrase that originally referred to jumping out of the daylight into the darkness of a Vietcong tunnel, and was later generalized to refer to various situations, including death.
"Uncle Neil's" first recording of this song was with none other than Devo.
If I had known then what I know now...
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You know, after all these years of Rock music, big deal.
I have always enjoyed hearing PJ's influences come through. They pay homage to the people that laid the ground work. Good for them. Is it any secret that Pearl Jam were heavily influenced by Punk? Devo is a great band and if you are going to pay homage or be influenced by a band, why not a band like Devo? Pretty sure that is a DEVO t-shirt Ed is wearing.
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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wow jim you just blew my mind...i had totally forgot that :shock:
i can see it now.....rearviewmirror for the smart car
that's what i thought
Of everything I've ever read in my entire life... This seems the most plausible.
It's a Kiss song which Mike has openly acknowledged as being an homage to Ace Frehley. Can't remember the name of the song, but it's not even the entire song, just this one lick from a solo.
Here's the quote from the "100 greatest guitar solos" that Guitar World released back in 98:
Alive, #44, McCready:
“Basically, I copied Ace Frehley’s solo from ‘She,’ ” says Pearl Jam guitarist Mike McCready. “Which, of course, was copied from Robby Krieger’s solo in the Doors’ ‘Five to One.’ ”
Don't worry, it seems that you're not crazy!
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03 - Toronto, Montreal
04 - Boston (Show #1)
05 - Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto
06 - Toronto (Show #1)
09 - Toronto, Philly (Show #3-4)
10 - Cleveland
11 - Montreal, Toronto (x2), Ottawa
13 - London (ON), Philly (x2)
16 - QC - Ottawa
Nice find.
Don't know why but I just remembered that quote. I remember bying the issue back in 98 and going through all the solos to see if McCready was in there. Let's say I was a bit disapointed to see his quote; I was expecting a more interesting story behind the solos 'cause everyone else had a great one for their own solos! That's how stupid you can be when you're 18! It's at the same time that I got interested in old bands, especially punk bands like Minuteman, The Clash, Gang of Four and Fugazi (which were still around) and that I could see how many bands were taking ideas from older bands. I already had a great idea of what "ripping off" meant when Creed and bands like Godsmack showed up and basically "stealing" everything from Pearl Jam and Alice In Chains... in a really bad way. But others were just pushing the enveloppe in a better way. PJ was a good exemple with Satan's Bed which could've been a Dead Boys song. Soundgarden with Sabbath, Radiohead with Pink Floyd and Talking Heads, etc.
That's why I don't really care if PJ's new song sounds a bit like Devo because I see it more as a sign of respect and (maybe) trying to diverse the public into other bands that should have more respect than a sign of wanting to steal something out of them.
98 - Montreal
00 - Montreal
03 - Toronto, Montreal
04 - Boston (Show #1)
05 - Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto
06 - Toronto (Show #1)
09 - Toronto, Philly (Show #3-4)
10 - Cleveland
11 - Montreal, Toronto (x2), Ottawa
13 - London (ON), Philly (x2)
16 - QC - Ottawa
i've alway's wanted to see pearl jam wearing flower pots on their heads!
This is a good point.
Pearl Jam has always worn their influences on their sleeve. I've always felt that this was more of a nod to their influences rather than a complete rip off.
Ed mentioned in either the Rolling Stone article or the Jools Holland interview -I can't remember which one- that Pearl Jam was merely an extention of past bands like The Who, Neil Young, Beatles and The Stones. They work from the foundation built by these past artists and come up with something all their own.
There is a big difference between the way Pearl Jam approaches this and the way Creed or Nickelback approach it.
I see this as a pretty similar situation to 'Spin the Black Circle' (arguably PJ's premiere punk tune). It's very close to Husker Du's 'Beyond the Threshold', from the legendary Zen Arcade, an album quite like Q: Are We not Men? A: We are Devo! in the sense that both are seminal alternative punk albums from well-respected but not crazy-popular bands. I think if rock bands today are leaning twords those types of influences, to me that is a very good thing. did anyone get all up in arms when Kurt Cobain literally admitted that 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' was a direct attempt at a ripoff of the Pixies?
I have always enjoyed hearing PJ's influences come through. They pay homage to the people that laid the ground work. Good for them. Is it any secret that Pearl Jam were heavily influenced by Punk? Devo is a great band and if you are going to pay homage or be influenced by a band, why not a band like Devo? Pretty sure that is a DEVO t-shirt Ed is wearing.
yeah...so?
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Nice find on that pic .... another band I love, Buffalo Tom, have covered DEVO live, and this picture reminded me that on the back of BT's debut album, drummer Tom MaGinnis wa swearing a DEVO shirt on the reverse side picture of the band ... can't find that pic on the back of the album on line but it was this album ...
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
If they managed to avoid getting sued for Given to Fly, they can probably avoid getting sued for this one. Probably.
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"Hey Hey, My My (Into the Black)" is a rock song by Neil Young. Combined with its acoustic counterpart "My My, Hey Hey (Out of the Blue)", it bookends Young's successful 1979 album Rust Never Sleeps. Inspired by proto-new wave group Devo, the rise of punk and what Young viewed as his own growing irrelevance, the song today crosses generations, inspiring admirers from punk to grunge and significantly revitalizing Young's then-faltering career. The song is about the alternatives of continuing to produce similar music ("to rust" or — in "My My, Hey Hey (Out of the Blue)" — "to fade away") or to burn out, as John Lydon of the Sex Pistols did by abandoning his Johnny Rotten persona.
A part of a lyric from the song, "it's better to burn out than to fade away," became infamous in modern rock after being quoted in Nirvana frontman Kurt Cobain's suicide note. Young later said that he was so shaken that he dedicated his 1994 album Sleeps with Angels to Cobain.
"Out of the blue and into the black" was a Vietnam War-era phrase that originally referred to jumping out of the daylight into the darkness of a Vietcong tunnel, and was later generalized to refer to various situations, including death.
"Uncle Neil's" first recording of this song was with none other than Devo.
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