New "Get Some" a clear Devo ripoff

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  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,821
    Wow, I made the same DEVO comparison as well when the girlfriend and I watched the show this morning!

    DEVO is a great band...they were way ahead of their time, and, if they'd change up their setlist as much as PJ, I'd prefer to see them play multiple nights!
  • Stephen Flow
    Stephen Flow Posts: 3,327
    Most people only know Devo for Whip It, sadly.

    Devo is a good band.

    But if you don't like it, you don't like it.

    "Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo!" is a great album.
  • flyinwhole313
    flyinwhole313 Posts: 1,651
    WOW, YOU ARE SOOOOO RIGHT....I DONT LIKE PEARL JAM ANYMORE..........I WOULD BE EMBARASSED TO HAVE POINTED THAT OUT. FUCK DEVO AND FUCK YOU...WHAT A FUCKING JACK-ASS... :ugeek: :!:
  • NothinGBetteRPJMaN
    NothinGBetteRPJMaN Posts: 530
    over_bends wrote:
    Sometimes these claims have validity but this is a pretty big stretch. There are stylistic similarities but I don't see how you can call this a clear ripoff.

    Like Ed's ripoff of that French song for the guitar for Guaranteed... THAT'S clear. This is most certainly not.

    Can someone tell me what song you are talking about for Guaranteed? I never heard this before
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  • darthvedder81
    darthvedder81 Posts: 688
    This thread is retarded. It reminds me of people saying WWS sounded like Offsprings "Keep Em' Seperated" when that came out. The chord progression is vaguely similar on the verse (different key though) but so what?
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  • Wobbie
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    darthvedder81 wrote:
    This thread is retarded.
    Get with the times.....this thread is "mentally challenged." :?
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  • Ryan_WFC
    Ryan_WFC Posts: 1,353
    The choruses are very similar, but "clear ripoff" is a stretch.
    "They said ... timing was everything
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  • SweetAndLow
    SweetAndLow Posts: 178
    It's a carbon copy in my book. As soon as Ed started the chorus over and over, I was wondering if I was listening to a cover song. Seriously.

    The melody, chord structure and lyrical cadence - right down to the same two-word chorus delivery - are exactly alike.

    How apologists try to defend it, i don't know. I've been as big of a fan as anyone else here since 95, and of course I hear lots of other influences/chord structures/etc on other PJ songs, but this one song is blatantly ripped off.

    Sorry, but it is.

    And it pains to type that, because I still love the band and I know the album is gonna rock regardless - 99.7 percent of the people who listen will have no idea about Devo's song, just like 99.7 percent of the people out there have no idea The White Stripes' Hardest Button to Button is a complete ripoff of Detroit punker Mick Collins' work (and who knows, we don't know if Ed or someone in the band approached Devo about the song; after all, Jack White and Mick Collins are good friends and jam together).[/u]
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  • over bends
    over bends Posts: 1,568
    NothinGBetteRPJMaN wrote:
    over_bends wrote:
    Sometimes these claims have validity but this is a pretty big stretch. There are stylistic similarities but I don't see how you can call this a clear ripoff.

    Like Ed's ripoff of that French song for the guitar for Guaranteed... THAT'S clear. This is most certainly not.

    Can someone tell me what song you are talking about for Guaranteed? I never heard this before

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rodnvh2BbZw
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  • JOEJOEJOE
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    CJMST3K wrote:
    I can see how the band or Ed was influenced by DEVO on this. The real question is, if there was no Devo, would we be hearing "Get Some" today?

    Very puzzling question....reminds me how people who travel in time machines are warned not to step on any bugs or kill any dinosaurs, since it could change the course of the world!
  • Bugs29
    Bugs29 Posts: 96
    hahahaha.....Pearl Jam plays a better version though:)
  • SweetAndLow
    SweetAndLow Posts: 178
    Only the start of the French song and Guaranteed are similar (though Ed re-uses that intro as the basis for his song).
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  • Sleep.With.Innocence
    Sleep.With.Innocence Posts: 607
    slightofjeff wrote:
    They should go back to ripping off Zeppelin ;)

    I second that one. :)

    That was a damn good rip off of "Going To California" they pulled off. ;)
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    I finally broke down and watched that Devo clip. Now I'm laughing my ass off. The two sound vaguely similar in parts. I guess. And I think I'm being charitible giving you that.

    I mean, the choruses of both songs start with the words "I got." So that's something.
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  • jambayleaf
    jambayleaf Posts: 646
    SweetAndLow wrote:
    It's a carbon copy in my book. As soon as Ed started the chorus over and over, I was wondering if I was listening to a cover song. Seriously.

    The melody, chord structure and lyrical cadence - right down to the same two-word chorus delivery - are exactly alike.

    How apologists try to defend it, i don't know. I've been as big of a fan as anyone else here since 95, and of course I hear lots of other influences/chord structures/etc on other PJ songs, but this one song is blatantly ripped off.

    Sorry, but it is.

    And it pains to type that, because I still love the band and I know the album is gonna rock regardless - 99.7 percent of the people who listen will have no idea about Devo's song, just like 99.7 percent of the people out there have no idea The White Stripes' Hardest Button to Button is a complete ripoff of Detroit punker Mick Collins' work (and who knows, we don't know if Ed or someone in the band approached Devo about the song; after all, Jack White and Mick Collins are good friends and jam together).[/u]

    Do you always post the same post in two different threads?

    You wanna hear ripoff, go listen to Under Pressure and Ice Ice Baby. This Pearl Jam song is not even close to the same as that. You make it sound like they are EXACTLY the same. Same beat, maybe. Lay There and Hate Me by Ben Harper has the same beat as Billie Jean. That must be a ripoff too. Go back under your bridge. Why does new Pearl Jam excite most, and anger some? They could make the next Present Tense, and people would complain. It's new Pearl Jam. That's pretty cool! How about celebrating the fact that after almost 20 years, the same fellas like to get in a room, and make some rock and roll that melts mine and most people's faces. Not everything they do I like, but even their crap is better than other's best, IMO (like Dissident).
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  • flyinwhole313
    flyinwhole313 Posts: 1,651
    SweetAndLow wrote:
    It's a carbon copy in my book. As soon as Ed started the chorus over and over, I was wondering if I was listening to a cover song. Seriously.

    The melody, chord structure and lyrical cadence - right down to the same two-word chorus delivery - are exactly alike.

    How apologists try to defend it, i don't know. I've been as big of a fan as anyone else here since 95, and of course I hear lots of other influences/chord structures/etc on other PJ songs, but this one song is blatantly ripped off.

    Sorry, but it is.

    And it pains to type that, because I still love the band and I know the album is gonna rock regardless - 99.7 percent of the people who listen will have no idea about Devo's song, just like 99.7 percent of the people out there have no idea The White Stripes' Hardest Button to Button is a complete ripoff of Detroit punker Mick Collins' work (and who knows, we don't know if Ed or someone in the band approached Devo about the song; after all, Jack White and Mick Collins are good friends and jam together).[/u]
    AND YOU ARE PART OF THE 0.3% OF PEOPLE WHO GIVE A FUCK. AND LED ZEPPELIN RIPPED OFF HOW MANY ARTISTS???? CAN YOU SPELL WHAT THIS SAYS??? WHOGIVESAFUCK??????????
  • hitman
    hitman Posts: 469
    over_bends wrote:
    NothinGBetteRPJMaN wrote:
    over_bends wrote:
    Sometimes these claims have validity but this is a pretty big stretch. There are stylistic similarities but I don't see how you can call this a clear ripoff.

    Like Ed's ripoff of that French song for the guitar for Guaranteed... THAT'S clear. This is most certainly not.

    Can someone tell me what song you are talking about for Guaranteed? I never heard this before

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rodnvh2BbZw

    wow.... i just listened to that for the first time.... that's pretty weird....


    that being said, when screwing around on guitar it can be easy to find chord progressions that just seem to fall under your hands... and given the history of the guitar, it's really likely that the same progression fell under somebody else's hands too.....

    i wrote a song that went Dmaj-Bmin-Amaj-Gmaj in high school... (19993) 8 years later Creed came out with a song using the exact same chords (One Last Breath)... as soon as I heard it on the radio, I was like... "hey!"

    mostly i was pissed because Creed forced me to retire that little ditty... bastards...
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    jambayleaf wrote:
    SweetAndLow wrote:
    It's a carbon copy in my book. As soon as Ed started the chorus over and over, I was wondering if I was listening to a cover song. Seriously.

    The melody, chord structure and lyrical cadence - right down to the same two-word chorus delivery - are exactly alike.

    How apologists try to defend it, i don't know. I've been as big of a fan as anyone else here since 95, and of course I hear lots of other influences/chord structures/etc on other PJ songs, but this one song is blatantly ripped off.

    Sorry, but it is.

    And it pains to type that, because I still love the band and I know the album is gonna rock regardless - 99.7 percent of the people who listen will have no idea about Devo's song, just like 99.7 percent of the people out there have no idea The White Stripes' Hardest Button to Button is a complete ripoff of Detroit punker Mick Collins' work (and who knows, we don't know if Ed or someone in the band approached Devo about the song; after all, Jack White and Mick Collins are good friends and jam together).[/u]

    Do you always post the same post in two different threads?

    You wanna hear ripoff, go listen to Under Pressure and Ice Ice Baby. This Pearl Jam song is not even close to the same as that. You make it sound like they are EXACTLY the same. Same beat, maybe. Lay There and Hate Me by Ben Harper has the same beat as Billie Jean. That must be a ripoff too. Go back under your bridge. Why does new Pearl Jam excite most, and anger some? They could make the next Present Tense, and people would complain. It's new Pearl Jam. That's pretty cool! How about celebrating the fact that after almost 20 years, the same fellas like to get in a room, and make some rock and roll that melts mine and most people's faces. Not everything they do I like, but even their crap is better than other's best, IMO (like Dissident).

    Present Tense is such a ripoff of the Beach Boys' "Kokomo." It's uncanny!
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  • Gonzo1977
    Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    ***GASP***
    A Rock 'n' Roll song that sounds like another Rock 'n' Roll song?

    BALLS!!! I DON'T BELIEVE YOU!!

    Anyways... You ever wonder how many times Chuck Berry thought to himself:

    "Hey!! that guitar sound is rippin' me off"

    Or

    how many times Wille Dixon said to his buddies:

    "Wow!! those there Led Zeppelin lyrics sure sound familiar"


    Hmm...I guess it's all just inadvertent imitation

    Yeah?
  • Labmonk_e
    Labmonk_e Posts: 26
    SweetAndLow wrote:
    How anyone can say otherwise after having a listen needs their head examined. Listen to Devo's "Gut Feeling" AT LEAST until the 2 minute mark of this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YievWIX9AKk

    Then, listen to "Get Some" from Conan last night: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9bScneEUOs

    It's as blatant as Jack White/White Stripes' "Hardest Button to Button" ripoff of seminal Detroit punk rocker Mick Collins and his old band The Gories' "Sovereignty Fight."


    I think its called "influential" in the music industry, And on that note ( no pun intended :mrgreen: ) hasn't EVERYONE been ripping off the Beatles over the last 40 years, or David Bowie, and Hey, how about how Led Zeppelin ripped off Muddy Waters and BB King?

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