D-DAY June 6,1944

WaveCameCrashin
WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
edited June 2009 in A Moving Train
In honor of all the american soldiers and all the allied forces who made the ultimate sacrifice. :(

Thank you
We will never forget.
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  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    +1

    Amen
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    +2
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    I can't imagine how frightening it must have been before they landed.
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    keeponrockin wrote:
    I can't imagine how frightening it must have been before they landed.
    Never had the chance to speak to a D-Day survivor at length, but the owner of a company I used to work for was one of the Marines that landed on Iwo Jima...he told me how the night went to dead quiet to the greatest firework show that he ever saw to the sheer terror of sitting in the landing craft as you moved towards shore...then it became a blur.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • youngster
    youngster Boston Posts: 6,576
    Those men are heroes and will never be forgotten.
    He who forgets will be destined to remember.

    9/29/04 Boston, 6/28/08 Mansfield, 8/23/09 Chicago, 5/15/10 Hartford
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  • OffHeGoes29
    OffHeGoes29 Posts: 1,240
    Sometimes I wonder if our generation could do what they did during their time, survive a depression and fight a world war.
    BRING BACK THE WHALE
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    OffHeGoes29 wrote:
    Sometimes I wonder if our generation could do what they did during their time, survive a depression and fight a world war.

    sure we could. and were not that far from it IMO
  • youngster
    youngster Boston Posts: 6,576
    OffHeGoes29 wrote:
    Sometimes I wonder if our generation could do what they did during their time, survive a depression and fight a world war.


    I wonder the same thing. Would high school/college age kids voluntarily give up their freedoms, cell phones, laptops and all their other possessions to go and fight in a world war? I definately think a good portion would, although not in the staggering numbers in WWII. Sometimes I also think that there is a lot of entitlement in today's youth and many believe that someone else should go to war instead of them. Many want the world to be a more peaceful place, but they are not going to risk their lives in uniform for it to happen.
    He who forgets will be destined to remember.

    9/29/04 Boston, 6/28/08 Mansfield, 8/23/09 Chicago, 5/15/10 Hartford
    5/17/10 Boston, 10/15/13 Worcester, 10/16/13 Worcester, 10/25/13 Hartford
    8/5/16 Fenway, 8/7/16 Fenway
    EV Solo: 6/16/11 Boston, 6/18/11 Hartford,
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    cropduster82 wrote:
    OffHeGoes29 wrote:
    Sometimes I wonder if our generation could do what they did during their time, survive a depression and fight a world war.


    I wonder the same thing. Would high school/college age kids voluntarily give up their freedoms, cell phones, laptops and all their other possessions to go and fight in a world war? I definately think a good portion would, although not in the staggering numbers in WWII. Sometimes I also think that there is a lot of entitlement in today's youth and many believe that someone else should go to war instead of them. Many want the world to be a more peaceful place, but they are not going to risk their lives in uniform for it to happen.
    Well, there was a draft then...but many did volunteer.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    cropduster82 wrote:
    OffHeGoes29 wrote:
    Sometimes I wonder if our generation could do what they did during their time, survive a depression and fight a world war.


    I wonder the same thing. Would high school/college age kids voluntarily give up their freedoms, cell phones, laptops and all their other possessions to go and fight in a world war? I definately think a good portion would, although not in the staggering numbers in WWII. Sometimes I also think that there is a lot of entitlement in today's youth and many believe that someone else should go to war instead of them. Many want the world to be a more peaceful place, but they are not going to risk their lives in uniform for it to happen.

    good point I agree with most of your post. All you would have to do is walk through your local mall and you can tell who would go and who wouldn't.

    People back then cared about america more than people do these days IMO
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited June 2009
    By the way, the American soldiers and the allied forces are the same thing. The Americans who fought at D-Day were no different from the British, or Canadians, or Polish, or French e.t.c, who fought there, despite what Steven Spielberg may have you all believe.

    Shame the Yanks came 3 years too late. The Nazis were already on the back foot on the Eastern Front by the time the Americans saw a chance to cash in on post-war Europe.

    Still, better late than never.

    Edit: In light of the predictable backlash I'll no doubt receive for not regarding D-Day as the most important event in WWII - which it wasn't, by any stretch of the imagination - I'll just say that I have nothing but respect for all those soldiers who fought on that day, or on any other day in that war. And there were far more significant battles during WWII than D-Day, even on the Western front. I think D-Day is blown out of all proportion mainly for it's dramatic nature. The Battle of The Bulge was a more significant battle than D-Day.
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  • OffHeGoes29
    OffHeGoes29 Posts: 1,240
    I just look at that generation and marvel at their accomplishments. Its not like they had a choice with what happen in their life time, but they kept it together and sacrificed a lot to give everone what we have today. I think they gave us everything we have to be thankful for today.
    BRING BACK THE WHALE
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    OffHeGoes29 wrote:
    I just look at that generation and marvel at their accomplishments.

    50 million dead. Great accomplishment. Personally, I don't regard 6 years of slaughter as something we should beat our chests over. That period in human history was a fucking disgrace. Just my humble opinion.
    I think if we try hard enough we could find other things in history more worthy of celebration and reverence.
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    Byrnzie wrote:
    OffHeGoes29 wrote:
    I just look at that generation and marvel at their accomplishments.

    50 million dead. Great accomplishment. Personally, I don't regard 6 years of slaughter as something we should beat our chests over. That period in human history was a fucking disgrace. Just my humble opinion.
    I think if we try hard enough we could find other things in history more worthy of celebration and reverence.
    Nobody's beating their chest we are honoring the lives of the fallen soldiers who died on d day. what the hell is your problem man. :x
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    OffHeGoes29 wrote:
    I just look at that generation and marvel at their accomplishments. Its not like they had a choice with what happen in their life time, but they kept it together and sacrificed a lot to give everone what we have today. I think they gave us everything we have to be thankful for today.

    +1,000,000
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    Byrnzie wrote:
    By the way, the American soldiers and the allied forces are the same thing. The Americans who fought at D-Day were no different from the British, or Canadians, or Polish, or French e.t.c, who fought there, despite what Steven Spielberg may have you all believe.

    Shame the Yanks came 3 years too late. The Nazis were already on the back foot on the Eastern Front by the time the Americans saw a chance to cash in on post-war Europe.

    Still, better late than never.

    Edit: In light of the predictable backlash I'll no doubt receive for not regarding D-Day as the most important event in WWII - which it wasn't, by any stretch of the imagination - I'll just say that I have nothing but respect for all those soldiers who fought on that day, or on any other day in that war. And there were far more significant battles during WWII than D-Day, even on the Western front. I think D-Day is blown out of all proportion mainly for it's dramatic nature. The Battle of The Bulge was a more significant battle than D-Day.
    :roll: :roll: yeah OK Mr .WWII2 expert . were you there when this happened ? you weren't even born yet. why don't you go tell this to someone that survived any of these battles and see what kind of reaction you get. Especially what you think about D-Day. And your comment about the americans seeing a chance to cash in on post war Europe is despicable
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    Byrnzie wrote:
    By the way, the American soldiers and the allied forces are the same thing. The Americans who fought at D-Day were no different from the British, or Canadians, or Polish, or French e.t.c, who fought there, despite what Steven Spielberg may have you all believe.

    Shame the Yanks came 3 years too late. The Nazis were already on the back foot on the Eastern Front by the time the Americans saw a chance to cash in on post-war Europe.

    Still, better late than never.

    Edit: In light of the predictable backlash I'll no doubt receive for not regarding D-Day as the most important event in WWII - which it wasn't, by any stretch of the imagination - I'll just say that I have nothing but respect for all those soldiers who fought on that day, or on any other day in that war. And there were far more significant battles during WWII than D-Day, even on the Western front. I think D-Day is blown out of all proportion mainly for it's dramatic nature. The Battle of The Bulge was a more significant battle than D-Day.
    The Battle of the Bulge would have never happened without D-Day. :roll:
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    tybird wrote:
    The Battle of the Bulge would have never happened without D-Day. :roll:

    D Day would never have happened without Stalingrad.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    prfctlefts wrote:
    were you there when this happened ? you weren't even born yet.

    Please explain to me how this is relevant.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    prfctlefts wrote:
    why don't you go tell this to someone that survived any of these battles and see what kind of reaction you get. Especially what you think about D-Day.

    I already have. I had a conversation with a D Day veteran in Korea about this and he agreed with me - in fact, not only did he agree with me, but he had a more passionate interest in the Russian war effort than me. We discussed how the Russian contribution far outweighed the American contribution - somewhere in the region of 100 - 1. Just the battle of Stalingrad alone eclipsed the entire American and British war effort combined in the impact it had upon the German army and in the numbers of dead.
    I also remember him being fascinated by the battle of Khalkhin Gol in 1939 (otherwise known as the Nomonhan Incident) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khalkhin_Gol. He even carried around a folder with info on this battle that he'd acquired over the years. He was fascinated with how the Russians under Zhukov were able to so conclusively crush the Japanese despite being massively outnumbered.

    This man fought in D-Day. He also later fought in the Korean war. But even he was honest enough to place D-Day in perspective - something that many people seem unable, or unwilling, to do.

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