pearl jam was SOOOOOOO much better than green day.

Green Day's performance was wonderful. It had all the elements of throwaway, shouty "Oi" punk and good fun that I like about Sham 69, while being poppy to perfection. They have one of those great choruses that ironically even gets the "enemy" singing along. They had total command of that mainstream little TV studio audience, and they played with joy.

I'm not even a Green Day fan, but I think it's sour grapes to deny the obvious fact that Green Day entertained and shone during their performance. And even if you're the biggest PJ fan in the world, keen to defend their Monday performance (as I have been to an extent), you can't say they shone like that: there was a decided joylessness about the whole proceedings. Come on, tell the truth. The mountains won't fall and lightning won't strike you dead.

glb wrote:

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

Green Day's performance was wonderful. It had all the elements of throwaway, shouty "Oi" punk and good fun that I like about Sham 69, while being poppy to perfection. They have one of those great choruses that ironically even gets the "enemy" singing along. They had total command of that mainstream little TV studio audience, and they played with joy.

I'm not even a Green Day fan, but I think it's sour grapes to deny the obvious fact, that Green Day entertained and shone during their performance. And even if you're the biggest PJ fan in the world, keen to defend their Monday performance (as I have been to an extent), you can't say they shone like that: there was a decided joylessness about the whole proceedings. Come on, tell the truth. The mountains won't fall and lightning won't strike you dead.

a joylessness to PJ's performance?? what? I definitely do not agree. I didn't see Green Day, nor do I care who was "better". PJ's performance was awesome though! All the guys were getting into it! There looked to be plenty of passion on that stage my friend.

There's a big difference between "passion" and joy.

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

glb wrote:

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

Green Day's performance was wonderful. It had all the elements of throwaway, shouty "Oi" punk and good fun that I like about Sham 69, while being poppy to perfection. They have one of those great choruses that ironically even gets the "enemy" singing along. They had total command of that mainstream little TV studio audience, and they played with joy.

I'm not even a Green Day fan, but I think it's sour grapes to deny the obvious fact, that Green Day entertained and shone during their performance. And even if you're the biggest PJ fan in the world, keen to defend their Monday performance (as I have been to an extent), you can't say they shone like that: there was a decided joylessness about the whole proceedings. Come on, tell the truth. The mountains won't fall and lightning won't strike you dead.

a joylessness to PJ's performance?? what? I definitely do not agree. I didn't see Green Day, nor do I care who was "better". PJ's performance was awesome though! All the guys were getting into it! There looked to be plenty of passion on that stage my friend.

There's a big difference between "passion" and joy.

im with ya... i think theres a certain level of serious business that goes into debuting a new song... its not like when theyre touring and have played every song enough to relax and have fun with it... i think that will only continue to improve between now and tour time... too bad they werent able to "wow" people the way alot of us were hoping the conan performance would... but i guess we'll just keep them to ourselves

I'm kind of dreading this but in July I am taking my niece to MSG to see Green Day as a HS graduation present. The only cool thing is that the majority of the venue is assigned seats except for a 'pit area' right in front of the stage where its GA and thats the tickets I got. So she's gonna piss her pants w/excitement and I'm gonna wear ear plugs.

But Green Day went into the audience! People love that.

I have the new GD album but have only listened to it a couple times so far. I agree Know Your Enemy and 21 Guns (the two songs they did on SNL) are the worst ones on the album. Enemy is soooo repetitive and "been there heard that"

URthekey wrote:

I'm kind of dreading this but in July I am taking my niece to MSG to see Green Day as a HS graduation present. The only cool thing is that the majority of the venue is assigned seats except for a 'pit area' right in front of the stage where its GA and thats the tickets I got. So she's gonna piss her pants w/excitement and I'm gonna wear ear plugs.

I would advise you to listen to the new CD a few times and attend the show with an open mind. I did that after getting a ticket to see them at Webster Hall, after never really being a fan, and the show blew my mind.

TipJammer wrote:

It hurts me to say it but as I watched Green Day I was saying to myself... this is a better, tighter performance.

I also have to say... Ed should maybe try and find some shirts that fit. I know its no fashion show but those short short sleeve shirts look a little funny. That's all.

Even though it's not a fashion show, should Ed also wear guyliner?

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its when you joined the ten club.

CJMST3K wrote:
oh please let it rain today wrote:
how is yours 2005?

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was there even a forum in 1999 to join?


I've only been posting for a couple months, but been a member since 94 or 95, my membership lapsed when I didn't have a computer and I was re-instated in 1999

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that can't be true. Then mine should say 1997.

I know. Mine would say 1995 or so.

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Say what you will about Green Day... It all comes down to personal taste. People that say they suck doesn't mean anything other thant that one person thinks they suck... just as the person who says 'Pearl Jam sucks' doesn't make it true for anyone other than that one person.
I just saw the Green Day warm-up show at the Fonda Theater last night and they are great (in my personal opinion).
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and think about this... if you hate it then you hear people say, "Oh, Pearl Jam is washed up." or "Pearl Jam sucks." and think that person is a douchebag... then, you turn around and say the same thing about another band... you are placing yourself in the same bag as the other person... with the rest of the douches.