I am going to let YOU be the judge......

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SPEEDY MCCREADY
SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,804
edited June 2009 in A Moving Train
I am going to let YOU be the judge..

If YOU found these kids guilty on all accounts.....

What type of punishment would you give them???
How long of a prison sentence????


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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Not sure on the length of sentence, but as long of a time as the law allows.

    I'd have them do their time in the most dangerous prison that I can find, and make them each share a cell with big huge guys who are know for their "romantic exploits" in the joint.
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  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    Long time gone....."want to go to college" boy can take courses in "fuck you up the ass" prison, if he really wants that college degree. As a victim of sexual abuse by an older boy (I much younger than 13), I don't have a lot of sympathy for the culprits. The victim will have to deal with this the rest of his life....why shouldn't they?
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  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    20-25 years each.
  • bernmodi
    bernmodi Posts: 631
    I'm a fan of the old Russian/Soviet punishment system: Get them to a place about as cosy as the Siberian tundra in February and let them work real hard for a long, long time.

    What a shame this abuse went on for such a long time without someone intervening.
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    bernmodi wrote:
    I'm a fan of the old Russian/Soviet punishment system: Get them to a place about as cosy as the Siberian tundra in February and let them work real hard for a long, long time.

    What a shame this abuse went on for such a long time without someone intervening.
    I would like to see some of the witness get hit with some charges too.
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  • satansbed
    satansbed Posts: 2,139
    edited June 2009
    this abuse went on for 20 years in church run schools in ireland
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    this is horrible that these kids are so young. 5 young lives ruined...one more then others, obviously. I'd say they shouldnt be charged as adults if this was an isolated incident but so this to go on for 2 months? :o sorry, they need to do some hard time.
  • CJMST3K
    CJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    I am going to let YOU be the judge..

    If YOU found these kids guilty on all accounts.....

    What type of punishment would you give them???
    How long of a prison sentence????


    I'm an "eye for an eye" kinda guy. I would give the other inmates broomsticks and hockey sticks and have at them.
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  • Cinnamon Girl
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    Ugh...I feel bad for all of them. Geez....14!?

    It amazes me that those four boys could all be that fucked up. The mentality of these kids is frightening, to say the least. How in the world does that happen. I mean, I can see random people being messed up like that, but for four boys to all continue that abuse is sickening.

    I don't know about sentences....They definitely deserve to be punished, but I can guarantee that sending these kids to prison....well....you might as well write off any possibility of rehabilitation.
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  • megatron
    megatron Posts: 3,420
    i hope this is bullying blown into a big deal and the kid didn't actually get a stick up the rear
  • CJMST3K
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    MEGATRON wrote:
    i hope this is bullying blown into a big deal and the kid didn't actually get a stick up the rear

    Megatron? Did you just change your name? I know I just saw your avatar earlier under a different name.
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  • megatron
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    CJMST3K wrote:
    MEGATRON wrote:
    i hope this is bullying blown into a big deal and the kid didn't actually get a stick up the rear

    Megatron? Did you just change your name? I know I just saw your avatar earlier under a different name.
    its not my fault
    calvin just came in and beat me til i changed it

    no hockey sticks though :shock:
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    tybird wrote:
    bernmodi wrote:
    I'm a fan of the old Russian/Soviet punishment system: Get them to a place about as cosy as the Siberian tundra in February and let them work real hard for a long, long time.

    What a shame this abuse went on for such a long time without someone intervening.
    I would like to see some of the witness get hit with some charges too.

    I was thinking the same. I'm not usually one to condone squealing, but that is fucked up.

    Max sentences for all of those kids.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Cinnamon Girl wrote:
    Ugh...I feel bad for all of them. Geez....14!?

    It amazes me that those four boys could all be that fucked up. The mentality of these kids is frightening, to say the least. How in the world does that happen. I mean, I can see random people being messed up like that, but for four boys to all continue that abuse is sickening.

    I don't know about sentences....They definitely deserve to be punished, but I can guarantee that sending these kids to prison....well....you might as well write off any possibility of rehabilitation.

    So sodomize a classmate for 2 months without conscience... I think those kids are ALREADY beyond rehabilitation.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Cinnamon Girl wrote:
    Ugh...I feel bad for all of them. Geez....14!?

    It amazes me that those four boys could all be that fucked up. The mentality of these kids is frightening, to say the least. How in the world does that happen. I mean, I can see random people being messed up like that, but for four boys to all continue that abuse is sickening.

    I don't know about sentences....They definitely deserve to be punished, but I can guarantee that sending these kids to prison....well....you might as well write off any possibility of rehabilitation.

    I agree. these kids are so young, prison is only going to harden them up and mold them into hardcore thugs. such a lose/lose situation all around.

    they need to be punished, prison won't help....I like the forced labor idea.
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Cinnamon Girl wrote:
    Ugh...I feel bad for all of them. Geez....14!?

    It amazes me that those four boys could all be that fucked up. The mentality of these kids is frightening, to say the least. How in the world does that happen. I mean, I can see random people being messed up like that, but for four boys to all continue that abuse is sickening.

    I don't know about sentences....They definitely deserve to be punished, but I can guarantee that sending these kids to prison....well....you might as well write off any possibility of rehabilitation.


    But with kids being that fucked up, do you really think that there is a possibility of rehabilitation anyway?
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  • jlew24asu
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    soulsinging wrote:

    So sodomize a classmate for 2 months without conscience... I think those kids are ALREADY beyond rehabilitation.

    its not that I disagree with you, but they are SO young. they have so much life ahead of them, and very little life experience. they dont really understand the consequences of their actions.
  • CJMST3K
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    jlew24asu wrote:
    soulsinging wrote:

    So sodomize a classmate for 2 months without conscience... I think those kids are ALREADY beyond rehabilitation.

    its not that I disagree with you, but they are SO young. they have so much life ahead of them, and very little life experience. they dont really understand the consequences of their actions.


    But they traumatized a boy by raping him repeatedly with a stick. And that kinda thing couldn't have started overnight. They probably were bullying him for years. That kid is now fucked up for the rest of his life. I think the severity of the consequences the VICTIM will be experiencing, for years and decades, has to factor in as well.
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  • soulsinging
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    jlew24asu wrote:
    soulsinging wrote:

    So sodomize a classmate for 2 months without conscience... I think those kids are ALREADY beyond rehabilitation.

    its not that I disagree with you, but they are SO young. they have so much life ahead of them, and very little life experience. they dont really understand the consequences of their actions.

    I think at 14, you're pretty well acquainted with the consequences of these actions. This isn't some kid from the ghetto getting caught up in gangs and ending up in a shooting. This is 4 kids indulging in sadistic torture of another kid for months AT SCHOOL. They aren't right in the head. This is basically sign number one for future serial killers.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    CJMST3K wrote:
    jlew24asu wrote:
    soulsinging wrote:

    So sodomize a classmate for 2 months without conscience... I think those kids are ALREADY beyond rehabilitation.

    its not that I disagree with you, but they are SO young. they have so much life ahead of them, and very little life experience. they dont really understand the consequences of their actions.


    But they traumatized a boy by raping him repeatedly with a stick. And that kinda thing couldn't have started overnight. They probably were bullying him for years. That kid is now fucked up for the rest of his life. I think the severity of the consequences the VICTIM will be experiencing, for years and decades, has to factor in as well.

    I know I know I know. I'm just thinking out loud. it just kills me that 5 young lives are ruined

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