I know I know I know. I'm just thinking out loud. it just kills me that 5 young lives are ruined
I understand you on this, but I also see soul's point...14 years old is an age where you're pretty aware of wrong from right, and like it's been said, this isn't a one time instance...this has obviously been happening for months, and their is 4 of them...this was more than just bullying.
7/2/06 - Denver, CO
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
I skimmed through it.. I saw 120 years. that is DEFINATELY way too harsh. They are 14 years old, that will ruin their lives. I know what they did was extremely fucked up but that is too long. If I were the judge I would imprison them until they are 30 years old. Just when they are really adults.
feel what way? like I said before, stop making it sound like I'm somehow not wanting these kids to be punished. I do. but to answer your question, yes I would.
How do you know they don't understand the consequences of their action over several months of this criminal act?
I've already explained why. maybe you should read the thread but I'll say it again. first of all I don't know if they understand completely. I'm making generalizations about 14 year olds. I said before, I'd bet my life these kids do not know any statistics of what happens to people that are sexually abused. they never read or heard horror stories of someone getting raped. they dont truly understand the the physiological effects their actions have on this boy. but by the time they are say 24 instead of 14, all that type of stuff is common knowledge.
Of course they know this is wrong and they could go to jail for it, these teenagers today are much smarter than you think and know the lifelong ramifications of such actions.
how the fuck can you possible know this without knowing the boys personally?
A one time possibly on drugs act is one thing but repeated over time, 15 years minimum. When they get out they would be around 30 with plenty of time live with what put them in jail. However, the victim has to live or NOT live with what was done him for his lifetime especially for whatever reason he did NOT coming forward in the beginning of this dispicable crime.
Peace
again, I'm not looking for the boys to go unpunished and have agreed with several people who have throw out this 15 year number. next time read the thread[/quote]
I did read through this entire thread before I ever posted a word.
Whether they know the physiological effects or not is one thing but it could also be they didn't give a shit about those effects on this teenager. They appear to just want terrorize and bully this teenager considering like I said this was not a one time act but done over a period of time. That alone tells me that they MEANT to do what they did to this teenager and I certainly don't need to know them personally to determine that fact.
They will likely spend maximum 10 years when we get down to it.
Peace
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I understand you on this, but I also see soul's point...14 years old is an age where you're pretty aware of wrong from right, and like it's been said, this isn't a one time instance...this has obviously been happening for months, and their is 4 of them...this was more than just bullying.
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
8/7/08, 6/9/09
I've already explained why. maybe you should read the thread but I'll say it again. first of all I don't know if they understand completely. I'm making generalizations about 14 year olds. I said before, I'd bet my life these kids do not know any statistics of what happens to people that are sexually abused. they never read or heard horror stories of someone getting raped. they dont truly understand the the physiological effects their actions have on this boy. but by the time they are say 24 instead of 14, all that type of stuff is common knowledge.
how the fuck can you possible know this without knowing the boys personally?
again, I'm not looking for the boys to go unpunished and have agreed with several people who have throw out this 15 year number. next time read the thread[/quote]
I did read through this entire thread before I ever posted a word.
Whether they know the physiological effects or not is one thing but it could also be they didn't give a shit about those effects on this teenager. They appear to just want terrorize and bully this teenager considering like I said this was not a one time act but done over a period of time. That alone tells me that they MEANT to do what they did to this teenager and I certainly don't need to know them personally to determine that fact.
They will likely spend maximum 10 years when we get down to it.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)