Jones Beach NY

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  • InHiding19
    InHiding19 Posts: 2,385
    Long Island is lame.....blowouts!
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  • Rubberbandman
    Rubberbandman Posts: 439
    Yes way. I worked backstage in NY area for years. I worked about 30 shows at Jones Beach, and about another 250 shows at MSG, Nassau, CAA, and Hammerstein mostly. I could explain further, but suffice it to say a sponsor of the venue has practically nothing to do with the shows.
    how long ago ?
    dont see how that is possible since MSG and Nassau is so liberal and Jones beach is so strict, regardless
    might be since Jones beach is in the middle of nowhere and the only way really to get there is by car, that was my thought process. I would imagine a sponsor who is paying a ton of money to a venue has some say in how the venue works
  • LineOneMightyFine
    LineOneMightyFine Posts: 347
    Get_Right wrote:
    josevolution wrote:
    That is the worst venue ever i hope they never play there again talk about restricting you can't even get a beer in that dump ,for those nights it was good back then you could at least get a drink inside now forget it ...plus after 03 they will never play here again hence my location ....sorry to be negative but that place just hirks me to no end

    beautiful location, but thats where it ends
    and if the wind blows just a little bit, the sound is awful
    damn shame about uniondale, I think we were about to get an epic show until "it" happened

    I completely agree with you. Unless you're in that lower tier the sound can be pretty off. I was stuck up towards the back for night 2 in 2000 and thought it was a great show, but the sound just wasn't great where I was and took away from the intensity of the experience.
  • PearlJamPatriot
    PearlJamPatriot Posts: 2,426
    ejny wrote:
    Get_Right wrote:
    josevolution wrote:
    That is the worst venue ever i hope they never play there again talk about restricting you can't even get a beer in that dump ,for those nights it was good back then you could at least get a drink inside now forget it ...plus after 03 they will never play here again hence my location ....sorry to be negative but that place just hirks me to no end

    beautiful location, but thats where it ends
    and if the wind blows just a little bit, the sound is awful
    damn shame about uniondale, I think we were about to get an epic show until "it" happened

    I completely agree with you. Unless you're in that lower tier the sound can be pretty off. I was stuck up towards the back for night 2 in 2000 and thought it was a great show, but the sound just wasn't great where I was and took away from the intensity of the experience.
    I felt the same exact way being in the way back myself that night.
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,128
    Rubberbandman wrote:
    Yes way. I worked backstage in NY area for years. I worked about 30 shows at Jones Beach, and about another 250 shows at MSG, Nassau, CAA, and Hammerstein mostly. I could explain further, but suffice it to say a sponsor of the venue has practically nothing to do with the shows.
    how long ago ?
    dont see how that is possible since MSG and Nassau is so liberal and Jones beach is so strict, regardless
    might be since Jones beach is in the middle of nowhere and the only way really to get there is by car, that was my thought process. I would imagine a sponsor who is paying a ton of money to a venue has some say in how the venue works

    two words
    STATE PARK LAND
  • Rubberbandman
    Rubberbandman Posts: 439
    thats 3 words but anyway lol
    it is state land but guess who pays for those venues to run? the sponsors, the state of NY is not footing the bill
    hence why haven't you seen Marilyn manson? or ozzfest there?
  • CJMST3K
    CJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    Rubberbandman wrote:
    Yes way. I worked backstage in NY area for years. I worked about 30 shows at Jones Beach, and about another 250 shows at MSG, Nassau, CAA, and Hammerstein mostly. I could explain further, but suffice it to say a sponsor of the venue has practically nothing to do with the shows.
    how long ago ?
    dont see how that is possible since MSG and Nassau is so liberal and Jones beach is so strict, regardless
    might be since Jones beach is in the middle of nowhere and the only way really to get there is by car, that was my thought process

    Thru 2000.

    The promoter who is now Live Nation (formerly Delsener/Slater, then SFX, then Clear Channel, now Live Nation) books shows at most of the NY area venues - (actually, now that LN is one big monopoly, they book all over the world) so they just line up a band with a venue, and voila, a show... and string a bunch of those together for a tour. It's a bit more complex than that, but that's the gist of it. I worked for Delsener/Slater as well as Metropolitan Ent - competing companies, now both together under Live Nation.

    ...but it sounds like you are talking about who handles the management of the venue which deals more with the fan's experience (policies for alcohol, etc, though if I remember correctly there's no alcohol allowed on state park property) and not so much to do with who plays at a venue. That is very much a venue-to-venue difference and venues as far as fans are concerned can have big differences. Seems like that is what you meant now.

    Whether or not a band chooses a venue due to policies of the venue, I don't know if they know that in advance. I'd speculate that a band will recall whether they personally remember having a good experience at a venue, and probably also book based on that as well as financials, as venues have different operating costs.
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,128
    Get_Right wrote:
    Rubberbandman wrote:
    Yes way. I worked backstage in NY area for years. I worked about 30 shows at Jones Beach, and about another 250 shows at MSG, Nassau, CAA, and Hammerstein mostly. I could explain further, but suffice it to say a sponsor of the venue has practically nothing to do with the shows.
    how long ago ?
    dont see how that is possible since MSG and Nassau is so liberal and Jones beach is so strict, regardless
    might be since Jones beach is in the middle of nowhere and the only way really to get there is by car, that was my thought process. I would imagine a sponsor who is paying a ton of money to a venue has some say in how the venue works

    EDIT: Three words
    STATE PARK LAND
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,128
    Rubberbandman wrote:
    thats 3 words but anyway lol
    it is state land but guess who pays for those venues to run? the sponsors, the state of NY is not footing the bill
    hence why haven't you seen Marilyn manson? or ozzfest there?

    I was never good at math anyway :)
    I know, but the state retains some liability for what happens on its property-hence the limited alcohol sales and strict lot enforcement

    same with the APW festival in jersey, alcohol sales are limited due to the festival being on state property
  • pearljgirl2010
    pearljgirl2010 Shillington, PA/Tuckerton, NJ Posts: 3,428
    there are definitely better venues to choose from....great tailgating, looks nice, but that's about it.
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  • CJMST3K
    CJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    Rubberbandman wrote:
    thats 3 words but anyway lol
    it is state land but guess who pays for those venues to run? the sponsors, the state of NY is not footing the bill
    hence why haven't you seen Marilyn manson? or ozzfest there?

    What do you mean?

    marilyn manson played jones beach in 2001.
    ozzfest played in 2004.

    When the Theater at the Garden (under MSG arena) was called "The Paramount", they also didn't have a say in the booking process. As far as I know, nothing has changed.
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    *Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
    *Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
    *Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
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  • Rubberbandman
    Rubberbandman Posts: 439
    ...but it sounds like you are talking about who handles the management of the venue which deals more with the fan's experience (policies for alcohol, etc, though if I remember correctly there's no alcohol allowed on state park property) and not so much to do with who plays at a venue. That is very much a venue-to-venue difference and venues as far as fans are concerned can have big differences. Seems like that is what you meant now.
    exactly what i meant, was trying to figure what jones beach problem was for a while now
  • Rubberbandman
    Rubberbandman Posts: 439
    marilyn manson played jones beach in 2001.
    ozzfest played in 2004.
    stand corrected did not know that , its been years though since anything has come thru Jones
  • CJMST3K
    CJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    Rubberbandman wrote:
    marilyn manson played jones beach in 2001.
    ozzfest played in 2004.
    stand corrected did not know that , its been years though since anything has come thru Jones


    that would be a promoter/artist issue, not a venue management issue... unless bands know there's no alcohol allowed (at least for fans ;) ) at JBA, then they may choose to play Nassau instead, which IMO is not a better option, except for alcohol allowed. Playing MSG is a whole other ballgame, since it costs so much.
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    *MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
    *Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
    *Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
    *Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
    *VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
    *EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
    *Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
  • Bathgate66
    Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    Rubberbandman wrote:
    its been 9 yrs since Jones Beach NY and i didnt go that night , so what do you say Ed and the gang Jones Beach this summer?


    been there, done that.

    please Pearl Jam Gods, never play this place ever again.
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  • Rubberbandman
    Rubberbandman Posts: 439
    so pretty much everyone is oppsosed to Jones Beach and that being the only Outdoor NY area venue?
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,128
    Rubberbandman wrote:
    so pretty much everyone is oppsosed to Jones Beach and that being the only Outdoor NY area venue?

    id go for another one at holmdel, NJ over jones beach

    but security there is equally as tough
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,642
    Rubberbandman wrote:
    so pretty much everyone is oppsosed to Jones Beach and that being the only Outdoor NY area venue?

    i'll tell ya what venue is pretty cool to see a show at & it's outdoors FOREST HILLS TENNIS STADIUM i saw the TALKING HEADS there also PETER GABRIEL good sound nice place easy access ....
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  • CJMST3K
    CJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    I wouldn't mind Jones Beach myself, even though I'm now a... "Virginian"...sigh.
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    *MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
    *Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
    *Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
    *Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
    *VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
    *EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,128
    josevolution wrote:
    Rubberbandman wrote:
    so pretty much everyone is oppsosed to Jones Beach and that being the only Outdoor NY area venue?

    i'll tell ya what venue is pretty cool to see a show at & it's outdoors FOREST HILLS TENNIS STADIUM i saw the TALKING HEADS there also PETER GABRIEL good sound nice place easy access ....
    what was that 1977?
    :mrgreen::mrgreen:

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