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Jones Beach NY

RubberbandmanRubberbandman Posts: 439
edited May 2009 in The Porch
its been 9 yrs since Jones Beach NY and i didnt go that night , so what do you say Ed and the gang Jones Beach this summer?
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    Ryan_WFCRyan_WFC Posts: 1,323
    I was at night two -- what a beautiful day out there waiting for the tickets and tailgating, and I'll never forget seeing that "It's OK" tag.
    "They said ... timing was everything
    made him ... want to be everywhere
    there's a ... lot to be said for nowhere."
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    RubberbandmanRubberbandman Posts: 439
    of course i get to see "Daughter" followed by "Its OK' time and time again on touring band and that is great but in person at the beach, would top off a great summer of concerts. Lets see they havent played on long island since 03 ? i believe so its perfect :)
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    RubberbandmanRubberbandman Posts: 439
    lol honeslty i dont care if its NYC, CT, NJ, Philly play somewhere i can get too without taking a week off from work
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    pearljgirl2010pearljgirl2010 Shillington, PA/Tuckerton, NJ Posts: 3,428
    Ryan_WFC wrote:
    I was at night two -- what a beautiful day out there waiting for the tickets and tailgating, and I'll never forget seeing that "It's OK" tag.


    I was there too...awesome day. I remember betting someone that I could throw a football farther than he could in exchange for beer. I won the bet :-) This version was on Touring Band, right?
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    Ryan_WFCRyan_WFC Posts: 1,323
    I remember betting someone that I could throw a football farther than he could in exchange for beer.I won the bet :-)

    Yeah, that was me. My arm was tired from the Super Bowl.

    ;)
    "They said ... timing was everything
    made him ... want to be everywhere
    there's a ... lot to be said for nowhere."
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    RubberbandmanRubberbandman Posts: 439
    This version was on Touring Band, right?
    yes mam
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    pearljgirl2010pearljgirl2010 Shillington, PA/Tuckerton, NJ Posts: 3,428
    Ryan_WFC wrote:
    I remember betting someone that I could throw a football farther than he could in exchange for beer.I won the bet :-)

    Yeah, that was me. My arm was tired from the Super Bowl.

    ;)


    LOL...I thought you looked familiar...
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    CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    a few years earlier I worked at JBA. in 2000 i was next to the sand hearing them Soundcheck Garden.


    btw - you know you can break into the backstage area with a canoe, right?
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    Ryan_WFCRyan_WFC Posts: 1,323
    This version was on Touring Band, right?
    yes mam

    I took my best friend to that show, his first Pearl Jam show, a show he wasn't really in to, and guess which of us gets his face shown prominently on the DVD during that song?

    :roll:
    "They said ... timing was everything
    made him ... want to be everywhere
    there's a ... lot to be said for nowhere."
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    RubberbandmanRubberbandman Posts: 439
    you probably can but no one is trying the venue is terrible for fans but never the less the only outside NY venue
    sound issues, no alcohol, they are so strict, how can you see PJ at the beach without a beer? come on now lol
    ps dont tell pearl jam lol
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    RubberbandmanRubberbandman Posts: 439
    I took my best friend to that show, his first Pearl Jam show, a show he wasn't really in to, and guess which of us gets his face shown prominently on the DVD during that song?
    i would have told my friend to leave, go wait in the car
    i have converted 3 people to big PJ fans just by seeing them live
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,427
    That is the worst venue ever i hope they never play there again talk about restricting you can't even get a beer in that dump ,for those nights it was good back then you could at least get a drink inside now forget it ...plus after 03 they will never play here again hence my location ....sorry to be negative but that place just hirks me to no end
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    RubberbandmanRubberbandman Posts: 439
    plus after 03 they will never play here again hence my location
    you think the booing at the coliseum to bushleaguer they wont come back?

    ps jones beach is the biggest waste of a venue ever the people that run that place have no clue
    but once again dont tell PJ
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,427
    plus after 03 they will never play here again hence my location
    you think the booing at the coliseum to bushleaguer they wont come back?

    ps jones beach is the biggest waste of a venue ever the people that run that place have no clue
    but once again dont tell PJ

    yep that was it i sat 6th row dead center that night and the look on ED'S face spoke volumes i hope some day they prove me wrong but i just don't see it happening again ...
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    Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,493
    That is the worst venue ever i hope they never play there again talk about restricting you can't even get a beer in that dump ,for those nights it was good back then you could at least get a drink inside now forget it ...plus after 03 they will never play here again hence my location ....sorry to be negative but that place just hirks me to no end

    beautiful location, but thats where it ends
    and if the wind blows just a little bit, the sound is awful
    damn shame about uniondale, I think we were about to get an epic show until "it" happened
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    CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    plus after 03 they will never play here again hence my location
    you think the booing at the coliseum to bushleaguer they wont come back?

    ps jones beach is the biggest waste of a venue ever the people that run that place have no clue
    but once again dont tell PJ


    when you say "people who run that place", who do you mean? ...it's the same production staff who handle Nassau and MSG.
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    RubberbandmanRubberbandman Posts: 439
    they will be back , i dont think a political thing like that will ruin them coming back plus ed was pretty drunk that night lol
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    RubberbandmanRubberbandman Posts: 439
    edited May 2009
    when you say "people who run that place", who do you mean? ...it's the same production staff who handle Nassau and MSG.
    there is no way , nassau and msg are great places to see shows . i believe the sponsor of jones beach whatever it is now, nikkon, hilfiger whatever have to do with what they bring in there
    Nikon at Jones Beach just checked
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    PearlJamPatriotPearlJamPatriot Posts: 2,426
    Ryan_WFC wrote:
    I was at night two -- what a beautiful day out there waiting for the tickets and tailgating, and I'll never forget seeing that "It's OK" tag.
    I was at night 2 as well. Its Ok was definitely awesome!
    Pearl Jam Shows: 1998 - 9/11 New York, NY (MSG night 2); 9/13 Hartford, CT || 2000 - 8/24 Wantagh, NY (Jones Beach 2); 8/27 Saratoga Springs; 8/29 Mansfield, MA (night 1); 8/30 Mansfield, MA (night 2) || 2003 - 4/29 Albany, NY; 5/3 State College, PA; 7/2 Mansfield (night 1); 7/6 Camden, NJ (night 2); 7/8 New York, NY (MSG night 1) || 2004 - 9/28 Boston, MA (night 1); 9/29 Boston, MA (night 2) || 2005 - 10/3 Philadelphia, PA || 2006 - 5/12 Albany, NY; 5/13 Hartford, CT; 5/24 Boston, MA (night 1); 5/25 Boston, MA (night 2); 5/27 Camden, NJ (night 1); 5/28 Camden, NJ (night 2)|| 2008 - 6/19 Camden, NJ (night 1); 6/24 New York, NY (MSG night 1); 6/25 New York, NY (MSG night 2); 6/27 Hartford, CT; 6/28 Mansfield, MA (night 1); 6/30 Mansfield, MA (night 2); 7/1 New York, NY (Beacon Theater)|| 2009 - 9/21 Seattle, WA (night 1); 9/22 Seattle, WA (night 2); 10/27 Philadelphia, PA (Spectrum night 1); 10/28 Philadelphia, PA (Spectrum night 2); 10/30 Philadelphia, PA (Spectrum night 3); 10/31 Philadelphia, PA (Spectrum night 4)|| 2010 - 5/15 Hartford, CT; 5/17 Boston, MA; 5/20 New York, NY (MSG night 1); 5/21 New York, NY (MSG night 2)|| 2011 - 9/3 East Troy, WI (PJ20); 9/4 East Troy, WI (PJ20) || 2012 - 9/2 Philadelphia, PA, 9/30 Missoula, MT || 2013 - 7/19 Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field), 10/12 Buffalo, NY, 10/15 Worcester, MA (night 1), 10/16 Worcester, MA (night 2), 10/18 Brooklyn, NY (night 1), 10/19 Brooklyn, NY (night 2), 10/25 Hartford, CT || 2014 - 10/22 Denver, CO || 2015 -  9/26 New York, NY (Global Citizen Festival) || 2016 - 5/1 New York, NY (night 1), 5/2 New York, NY (night 2), 8/5 Boston, MA (Fenway Park night 1), 8/7 Boston, MA (Fenway Park night 2) || 2018 - 9/2 Boston, MA (Fenway Park night 1) || 2020 - 3/30 New York, NY
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    CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    when you say "people who run that place", who do you mean? ...it's the same production staff who handle Nassau and MSG.

    there is no way , nassau and msg are great places to see shows . i believe the sponsor of jones beach whatever it is now, nikkon, hilfiger whatever have to do with what they bring in there


    Yes way. I worked backstage in NY area for years. I worked about 30 shows at Jones Beach, and about another 250 shows at MSG, Nassau, CAA, and Hammerstein mostly. I could explain further, but suffice it to say a sponsor of the venue has practically nothing to do with the shows.
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    *MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
    *Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
    *Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
    *Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
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    InHiding19InHiding19 Posts: 2,385
    Long Island is lame.....blowouts!
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    RubberbandmanRubberbandman Posts: 439
    Yes way. I worked backstage in NY area for years. I worked about 30 shows at Jones Beach, and about another 250 shows at MSG, Nassau, CAA, and Hammerstein mostly. I could explain further, but suffice it to say a sponsor of the venue has practically nothing to do with the shows.
    how long ago ?
    dont see how that is possible since MSG and Nassau is so liberal and Jones beach is so strict, regardless
    might be since Jones beach is in the middle of nowhere and the only way really to get there is by car, that was my thought process. I would imagine a sponsor who is paying a ton of money to a venue has some say in how the venue works
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    Get_Right wrote:
    That is the worst venue ever i hope they never play there again talk about restricting you can't even get a beer in that dump ,for those nights it was good back then you could at least get a drink inside now forget it ...plus after 03 they will never play here again hence my location ....sorry to be negative but that place just hirks me to no end

    beautiful location, but thats where it ends
    and if the wind blows just a little bit, the sound is awful
    damn shame about uniondale, I think we were about to get an epic show until "it" happened

    I completely agree with you. Unless you're in that lower tier the sound can be pretty off. I was stuck up towards the back for night 2 in 2000 and thought it was a great show, but the sound just wasn't great where I was and took away from the intensity of the experience.
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    PearlJamPatriotPearlJamPatriot Posts: 2,426
    ejny wrote:
    Get_Right wrote:
    That is the worst venue ever i hope they never play there again talk about restricting you can't even get a beer in that dump ,for those nights it was good back then you could at least get a drink inside now forget it ...plus after 03 they will never play here again hence my location ....sorry to be negative but that place just hirks me to no end

    beautiful location, but thats where it ends
    and if the wind blows just a little bit, the sound is awful
    damn shame about uniondale, I think we were about to get an epic show until "it" happened

    I completely agree with you. Unless you're in that lower tier the sound can be pretty off. I was stuck up towards the back for night 2 in 2000 and thought it was a great show, but the sound just wasn't great where I was and took away from the intensity of the experience.
    I felt the same exact way being in the way back myself that night.
    Pearl Jam Shows: 1998 - 9/11 New York, NY (MSG night 2); 9/13 Hartford, CT || 2000 - 8/24 Wantagh, NY (Jones Beach 2); 8/27 Saratoga Springs; 8/29 Mansfield, MA (night 1); 8/30 Mansfield, MA (night 2) || 2003 - 4/29 Albany, NY; 5/3 State College, PA; 7/2 Mansfield (night 1); 7/6 Camden, NJ (night 2); 7/8 New York, NY (MSG night 1) || 2004 - 9/28 Boston, MA (night 1); 9/29 Boston, MA (night 2) || 2005 - 10/3 Philadelphia, PA || 2006 - 5/12 Albany, NY; 5/13 Hartford, CT; 5/24 Boston, MA (night 1); 5/25 Boston, MA (night 2); 5/27 Camden, NJ (night 1); 5/28 Camden, NJ (night 2)|| 2008 - 6/19 Camden, NJ (night 1); 6/24 New York, NY (MSG night 1); 6/25 New York, NY (MSG night 2); 6/27 Hartford, CT; 6/28 Mansfield, MA (night 1); 6/30 Mansfield, MA (night 2); 7/1 New York, NY (Beacon Theater)|| 2009 - 9/21 Seattle, WA (night 1); 9/22 Seattle, WA (night 2); 10/27 Philadelphia, PA (Spectrum night 1); 10/28 Philadelphia, PA (Spectrum night 2); 10/30 Philadelphia, PA (Spectrum night 3); 10/31 Philadelphia, PA (Spectrum night 4)|| 2010 - 5/15 Hartford, CT; 5/17 Boston, MA; 5/20 New York, NY (MSG night 1); 5/21 New York, NY (MSG night 2)|| 2011 - 9/3 East Troy, WI (PJ20); 9/4 East Troy, WI (PJ20) || 2012 - 9/2 Philadelphia, PA, 9/30 Missoula, MT || 2013 - 7/19 Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field), 10/12 Buffalo, NY, 10/15 Worcester, MA (night 1), 10/16 Worcester, MA (night 2), 10/18 Brooklyn, NY (night 1), 10/19 Brooklyn, NY (night 2), 10/25 Hartford, CT || 2014 - 10/22 Denver, CO || 2015 -  9/26 New York, NY (Global Citizen Festival) || 2016 - 5/1 New York, NY (night 1), 5/2 New York, NY (night 2), 8/5 Boston, MA (Fenway Park night 1), 8/7 Boston, MA (Fenway Park night 2) || 2018 - 9/2 Boston, MA (Fenway Park night 1) || 2020 - 3/30 New York, NY
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    Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,493
    Yes way. I worked backstage in NY area for years. I worked about 30 shows at Jones Beach, and about another 250 shows at MSG, Nassau, CAA, and Hammerstein mostly. I could explain further, but suffice it to say a sponsor of the venue has practically nothing to do with the shows.
    how long ago ?
    dont see how that is possible since MSG and Nassau is so liberal and Jones beach is so strict, regardless
    might be since Jones beach is in the middle of nowhere and the only way really to get there is by car, that was my thought process. I would imagine a sponsor who is paying a ton of money to a venue has some say in how the venue works

    two words
    STATE PARK LAND
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    RubberbandmanRubberbandman Posts: 439
    thats 3 words but anyway lol
    it is state land but guess who pays for those venues to run? the sponsors, the state of NY is not footing the bill
    hence why haven't you seen Marilyn manson? or ozzfest there?
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    CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    Yes way. I worked backstage in NY area for years. I worked about 30 shows at Jones Beach, and about another 250 shows at MSG, Nassau, CAA, and Hammerstein mostly. I could explain further, but suffice it to say a sponsor of the venue has practically nothing to do with the shows.
    how long ago ?
    dont see how that is possible since MSG and Nassau is so liberal and Jones beach is so strict, regardless
    might be since Jones beach is in the middle of nowhere and the only way really to get there is by car, that was my thought process

    Thru 2000.

    The promoter who is now Live Nation (formerly Delsener/Slater, then SFX, then Clear Channel, now Live Nation) books shows at most of the NY area venues - (actually, now that LN is one big monopoly, they book all over the world) so they just line up a band with a venue, and voila, a show... and string a bunch of those together for a tour. It's a bit more complex than that, but that's the gist of it. I worked for Delsener/Slater as well as Metropolitan Ent - competing companies, now both together under Live Nation.

    ...but it sounds like you are talking about who handles the management of the venue which deals more with the fan's experience (policies for alcohol, etc, though if I remember correctly there's no alcohol allowed on state park property) and not so much to do with who plays at a venue. That is very much a venue-to-venue difference and venues as far as fans are concerned can have big differences. Seems like that is what you meant now.

    Whether or not a band chooses a venue due to policies of the venue, I don't know if they know that in advance. I'd speculate that a band will recall whether they personally remember having a good experience at a venue, and probably also book based on that as well as financials, as venues have different operating costs.
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    *Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
    *Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
    *Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
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    Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,493
    Get_Right wrote:
    Yes way. I worked backstage in NY area for years. I worked about 30 shows at Jones Beach, and about another 250 shows at MSG, Nassau, CAA, and Hammerstein mostly. I could explain further, but suffice it to say a sponsor of the venue has practically nothing to do with the shows.
    how long ago ?
    dont see how that is possible since MSG and Nassau is so liberal and Jones beach is so strict, regardless
    might be since Jones beach is in the middle of nowhere and the only way really to get there is by car, that was my thought process. I would imagine a sponsor who is paying a ton of money to a venue has some say in how the venue works

    EDIT: Three words
    STATE PARK LAND
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    Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,493
    thats 3 words but anyway lol
    it is state land but guess who pays for those venues to run? the sponsors, the state of NY is not footing the bill
    hence why haven't you seen Marilyn manson? or ozzfest there?

    I was never good at math anyway :)
    I know, but the state retains some liability for what happens on its property-hence the limited alcohol sales and strict lot enforcement

    same with the APW festival in jersey, alcohol sales are limited due to the festival being on state property
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    pearljgirl2010pearljgirl2010 Shillington, PA/Tuckerton, NJ Posts: 3,428
    there are definitely better venues to choose from....great tailgating, looks nice, but that's about it.
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