Octuplet mom rant

decides2dream · February 2009

even flow - question mark wrote:

_Crazy_Mary_ wrote:

I'm not surprised she's had plastic surgery. She has that creeper-fake-face look.

I was going to post the same thing. Judging by the plastic you can tell it is all about "me".

plastic surgery or not.....ANYone who willingly chooses to bring that many children into the world, with no real means of support for them all, no partner to assist and love these children, did it ALL simply b/c SHE 'wants a big family'.....SHE always 'wanted lots and lots of kids', etc. it's all 'she wants, she wants'......not what is best for any children brought into the world. utter selfishness. and beyond these poor children, apparently she is so selfish and about her own wants, that it's a-ok in her book that she cannot afford them, and therefore the taxpayers of the US can foot all her medical bills, and end up supporting her children to adulthood. all for HER WANTS. man, she Is special. :roll: there are many things in this world i 'want'...and if i get them, it's b/c i WORK for them, and some other things...i may never have, simply b/c it's not meant to be. maturity and responsibility, you know, behaving like an adult, usually helps most realize these things. we are NOT entitled to ANYthing, and we can't just get what we want b/c we want it. obviously, this woman proves to be the excpetion to this rule...and these poor children shall suffer for it, and we all get to pay for it too.

AmentsChick · February 2009

So Much Clearer wrote:

I've heard a lot of people saying, "Let her find out how hard it is to raise kids without help!" but I don't agree with that at all, because then the children suffer when she is inevitably a horrible and neglectful provider.

This is a really good point. I mean, we're all in agreement that Nadya has some serious mental issues and is straight up selfish...BUT I think it's easy to overlook the children in all this. Clearly, the mom is the bad guy...but the kids are the innocent ones...and they're the ones who are suffering and will continue to suffer. But then again, I'm not sure taking them away from their mom is the right answer. In all her selfishness in wanting a large family, I *DO* think she wants to be a good mom. Whether she actually is, or not, is not for me to decide since I'm obviously an outsider.

norm · February 2009

AmentsChick wrote:

So Much Clearer wrote:

I've heard a lot of people saying, "Let her find out how hard it is to raise kids without help!" but I don't agree with that at all, because then the children suffer when she is inevitably a horrible and neglectful provider.

This is a really good point. I mean, we're all in agreement that Nadya has some serious mental issues and is straight up selfish...BUT I think it's easy to overlook the children in all this. Clearly, the mom is the bad guy...but the kids are the innocent ones...and they're the ones who are suffering and will continue to suffer. But then again, I'm not sure taking them away from their mom is the right answer. In all her selfishness in wanting a large family, I *DO* think she wants to be a good mom. Whether she actually is, or not, is not for me to decide since I'm obviously an outsider.

yeah but what, in this nutjob's mind, constitutes a good mother?

SPEEDY MCCREADY · February 2009

norm wrote:

AmentsChick wrote:

So Much Clearer wrote:

I've heard a lot of people saying, "Let her find out how hard it is to raise kids without help!" but I don't agree with that at all, because then the children suffer when she is inevitably a horrible and neglectful provider.

This is a really good point. I mean, we're all in agreement that Nadya has some serious mental issues and is straight up selfish...BUT I think it's easy to overlook the children in all this. Clearly, the mom is the bad guy...but the kids are the innocent ones...and they're the ones who are suffering and will continue to suffer. But then again, I'm not sure taking them away from their mom is the right answer. In all her selfishness in wanting a large family, I *DO* think she wants to be a good mom. Whether she actually is, or not, is not for me to decide since I'm obviously an outsider.

yeah but what, in this nutjob's mind, constitutes a good mother?

maybe she is like half the people on this board.....

she doesnt work....
she doesnt pay taxes....

and she thinks she will be able to FLIP the 8 hawaii posters she owns in order to pay for the kids college.....

hehehehehehehehe.....................

norm · February 2009

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

maybe she is like half the people on this board.....

she doesnt work....
she doesnt pay taxes....

and she thinks she will be able to FLIP the 8 hawaii posters she owns in order to pay for the kids college.....

hehehehehehehehe.....................

boy if she's a flipper, she'll have the wrath of a lot of angry delusional pearl jam fans after her

AmentsChick · February 2009

norm wrote:

AmentsChick wrote:

So Much Clearer wrote:

I've heard a lot of people saying, "Let her find out how hard it is to raise kids without help!" but I don't agree with that at all, because then the children suffer when she is inevitably a horrible and neglectful provider.

This is a really good point. I mean, we're all in agreement that Nadya has some serious mental issues and is straight up selfish...BUT I think it's easy to overlook the children in all this. Clearly, the mom is the bad guy...but the kids are the innocent ones...and they're the ones who are suffering and will continue to suffer. But then again, I'm not sure taking them away from their mom is the right answer. In all her selfishness in wanting a large family, I *DO* think she wants to be a good mom. Whether she actually is, or not, is not for me to decide since I'm obviously an outsider.

yeah but what, in this nutjob's mind, constitutes a good mother?

Great point.

AmentsChick · February 2009

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

and she thinks she will be able to FLIP the 8 hawaii posters she owns in order to pay for the kids college.....

hehehehehehehehe.....................

She's CLEARLY not cool enough to be a PJ fan.

redrock · February 2009

norm wrote:

yeah but what, in this nutjob's mind, constitutes a good mother?

I think she said she would be there for them and love them unconditionally or something like that.

decides2dream · February 2009

redrock wrote:

norm wrote:

yeah but what, in this nutjob's mind, constitutes a good mother?

I think she said she would be there for them and love them unconditionally or something like that.

that's certainly a big PART of being a good parent, but certainly not enough by any stretch. being able to meet your children's basic needs would be a good start too. i also think, even with the best of intentions...most would realize there is NO way, all alone, that they could adequately meet the basic needs of 14 children, all under the age of 7, some with special needs...physcially, mentally, emotionally, financially....and therefore would not willingly choose to bring said children into this world without being able to care for their needs.

AmentsChick · February 2009

redrock wrote:

norm wrote:

yeah but what, in this nutjob's mind, constitutes a good mother?

I think she said she would be there for them and love them unconditionally or something like that.

Didn't she say she'd spend 45 minutes each day holding each child? Um...at 14 kids that works out to ...what...10 and a half hours a day?!! That's not even logically possible.

redrock · February 2009

decides2dream wrote:

.most would realize there is NO way, all alone, that they could adequately meet the basic needs of 14 children....

She also said that no one can raise that amount of kids alone without the help of parents, friends, church, etc. Good thing her mum is already looking after the other 6. Maybe she has 8 friends and/or church goers that are ready to take responsibility each for a child!

decides2dream · February 2009

AmentsChick wrote:

redrock wrote:

norm wrote:

yeah but what, in this nutjob's mind, constitutes a good mother?

I think she said she would be there for them and love them unconditionally or something like that.

Didn't she say she'd spend 45 minutes each day holding each child? Um...at 14 kids that works out to ...what...10 and a half hours a day?!! That's not even logically possible.

i saw that on the news yesterday. i think she was actually referring to 'just' the babies. so that would = 6 hours. and that's just holding em. how about changing them, feeding them, giving them mental stimulation, caring for any other special needs.....let alone her other 6 children...and oh yea, work a job to support them all. care for them, support them, ALL on her own? BS. she never planned on it...b/c it's impossible w/o assistance.

redrock wrote:

She also said that no one can raise that amount of kids alone without the help of parents, friends, church, etc. Good thing her mum is already looking after the other 6. Maybe she has 8 friends and/or church goers that are ready to take responsibility each for a child!

for the sake of those children, i sincerely hope so!

AmentsChick · February 2009

redrock wrote:

decides2dream wrote:

.most would realize there is NO way, all alone, that they could adequately meet the basic needs of 14 children....

She also said that no one can raise that amount of kids alone without the help of parents, friends, church, etc. Good thing her mum is already looking after the other 6. Maybe she has 8 friends and/or church goers that are ready to take responsibility each for a child!

I'm sure there will be a multitude of people who will step forward to help out in the beginning...whether it be to honestly help...or to be close to a "celebrity". :roll:

AmentsChick · February 2009

Did anyone happen to watch the Dateline on her last night? I'm curious how the other 6 kids are faring.

Cosmo · February 2009

Just some observations from last night's 'Dateline: NBC'....
It is all about her. Her wants for a large family... her dreams of a large number of children... all about the I, the Me and the Mine. I think she is seriously delusional about her abilities to care for the extremely large number of kids she has undertaken. Loving your kids and caring for them are two completely different things. You may love them all, but you may not be able to provide the required care for each of them.. that each child deserves. she doesn't consider the fact that her wants impose in the lives of others... namely, her elderly parents. They are taken for granted in her list of wants and desires.
She reminds me of the crazy cat ladies... they may be well intentioned and believe they can provide for 14 kids (or 137 cats), the reality is... logistically, it is impossible. Imagine getting the kids off to the doctors... taking all 8, while finding someone to watch the older kids... just getting them into the car... how do you do that... especially, by yourself?
It is a lesson in selfishness. Selfishness that blinds out reality and reason... logic and fact. Love cannot solve all problems... it makes for a nice line in greeting cards, but the reality is, love does not feed hungry babies or change their diapers.
...
One disturbing observation... the whole 'My angels' comment in reference to the fact that all 8 kids share the middle name, 'Angel'... that creeped me out. Along with all of the other religious crap she said, and the kids all having Biblical Names... she could be one of those psycho types that 'loves her kids so much' that she drowns them in the bathtub so they can all be together with Jesus while she is in one of her deep depressions.
I hope I'm just worrying about more than I should... I don't think these 14 kids deserve this.

decides2dream · February 2009

Cosmo wrote:

Just some observations from last night's 'Dateline: NBC'....
It is all about her. Her wants for a large family... her dreams of a large number of children... all about the I, the Me and the Mine. I think she is seriously delusional about her abilities to care for the extremely large number of kids she has undertaken. Loving your kids and caring for them are two completely different things. You may love them all, but you may not be able to provide the required care for each of them.. that each child deserves. she doesn't consider the fact that her wants impose in the lives of others... namely, her elderly parents. They are taken for granted in her list of wants and desires.
She reminds me of the crazy cat ladies... they may be well intentioned and believe they can provide for 14 kids (or 137 cats), the reality is... logistically, it is impossible. Imagine getting the kids off to the doctors... taking all 8, while finding someone to watch the older kids... just getting them into the car... how do you do that... especially, by yourself?
It is a lesson in selfishness. Selfishness that blinds out reality and reason... logic and fact. Love cannot solve all problems... it makes for a nice line in greeting cards, but the reality is, love does not feed hungry babies or change their diapers.
...
One disturbing observation... the whole 'My angels' comment in reference to the fact that all 8 kids share the middle name, 'Angel'... that creeped me out. Along with all of the other religious crap she said, and the kids all having Biblical Names... she could be one of those psycho types that 'loves her kids so much' that she drowns them in the bathtub so they can all be together with Jesus while she is in one of her deep depressions.
I hope I'm just worrying about more than I should... I don't think these 14 kids deserve this.

thank you.
these have been my thoughts all along, especially the focus on HER wants and desires, to the detriment of all else. slefishness of the highest order.

and you are absolutely right - those 14 children, and her parents too i might add, do NOT deserve this.

so-much-clearer · February 2009

She has a website now, asking for public donations. You can leave comments for her there but she probably won't read them.

If you want to see it but don't want to actually visit it:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/1 ... 66030.html

tybird · February 2009

Cosmo wrote:

Just some observations from last night's 'Dateline: NBC'....
It is all about her. Her wants for a large family... her dreams of a large number of children... all about the I, the Me and the Mine. I think she is seriously delusional about her abilities to care for the extremely large number of kids she has undertaken. Loving your kids and caring for them are two completely different things. You may love them all, but you may not be able to provide the required care for each of them.. that each child deserves. she doesn't consider the fact that her wants impose in the lives of others... namely, her elderly parents. They are taken for granted in her list of wants and desires.
She reminds me of the crazy cat ladies... they may be well intentioned and believe they can provide for 14 kids (or 137 cats), the reality is... logistically, it is impossible. Imagine getting the kids off to the doctors... taking all 8, while finding someone to watch the older kids... just getting them into the car... how do you do that... especially, by yourself?
It is a lesson in selfishness. Selfishness that blinds out reality and reason... logic and fact. Love cannot solve all problems... it makes for a nice line in greeting cards, but the reality is, love does not feed hungry babies or change their diapers.
...
One disturbing observation... the whole 'My angels' comment in reference to the fact that all 8 kids share the middle name, 'Angel'... that creeped me out. Along with all of the other religious crap she said, and the kids all having Biblical Names... she could be one of those psycho types that 'loves her kids so much' that she drowns them in the bathtub so they can all be together with Jesus while she is in one of her deep depressions.
I hope I'm just worrying about more than I should... I don't think these 14 kids deserve this.

Damn....well said.....but you left out the fact that her lips look like Speedy's done punched her in the mush....for being such a dumbass. :twisted:

cornnifer · February 2009

So Much Clearer wrote:

She has a website now, asking for public donations. You can leave comments for her there but she probably won't read them.

If you want to see it but don't want to actually visit it:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/1 ... 66030.html

All i can say is, Wow. She must have a set of walrus balls.

decides2dream · February 2009

tybird wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

Just some observations from last night's 'Dateline: NBC'....
It is all about her. Her wants for a large family... her dreams of a large number of children... all about the I, the Me and the Mine. I think she is seriously delusional about her abilities to care for the extremely large number of kids she has undertaken. Loving your kids and caring for them are two completely different things. You may love them all, but you may not be able to provide the required care for each of them.. that each child deserves. she doesn't consider the fact that her wants impose in the lives of others... namely, her elderly parents. They are taken for granted in her list of wants and desires.
She reminds me of the crazy cat ladies... they may be well intentioned and believe they can provide for 14 kids (or 137 cats), the reality is... logistically, it is impossible. Imagine getting the kids off to the doctors... taking all 8, while finding someone to watch the older kids... just getting them into the car... how do you do that... especially, by yourself?
It is a lesson in selfishness. Selfishness that blinds out reality and reason... logic and fact. Love cannot solve all problems... it makes for a nice line in greeting cards, but the reality is, love does not feed hungry babies or change their diapers.
...
One disturbing observation... the whole 'My angels' comment in reference to the fact that all 8 kids share the middle name, 'Angel'... that creeped me out. Along with all of the other religious crap she said, and the kids all having Biblical Names... she could be one of those psycho types that 'loves her kids so much' that she drowns them in the bathtub so they can all be together with Jesus while she is in one of her deep depressions.
I hope I'm just worrying about more than I should... I don't think these 14 kids deserve this.

Damn....well said.....but you left out the fact that her lips look like Speedy's done punched her in the mush....for being such a dumbass. :twisted:

damn ty, you've become more and more :twisted: on this new board. i like it.

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