CPU trouble

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  • PearlJamaholic
    PearlJamaholic Posts: 2,019
    Saturnal wrote:
    Yikes...does it say "installing" when you're trying to unzip the zip file or actually run the .exe inside the zip?

    i dont have a zip just the .exe.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Saturnal wrote:
    What's the process that's taking up the 80-100%? Go to the task manager and just sort them by cpu usage.


    Best answer.

    hit ctrl-alt del, click on services or processes tab I believe....sort the list by CPU% and watch which process is hitting the rails,....then terminate (end task) it to see if it resolves. Take note of the exe that's offending and remove or reinstall the app if it's not a system process

    If one of your svchost instances is bugging out, you're most likely infected with something.

    Which process is causing it?
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  • PearlJamaholic
    PearlJamaholic Posts: 2,019
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Best answer.

    hit ctrl-alt del, click on services or processes tab I believe....sort the list by CPU% and watch which process is hitting the rails,....then terminate (end task) it to see if it resolves. Take note of the exe that's offending and remove or reinstall the app if it's not a system process

    If one of your svchost instances is bugging out, you're most likely infected with something.

    Which process is causing it?

    already kinda answered this IE and svchost and they dont move much, nothing really does. just when something changes with the computer it comes to a head. thats why its puzzling.
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  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    PearlJamaholic wrote:
    i dont have a zip just the .exe.
    Did you download this?

    http://download.sysinternals.com/Files/ProcessExplorer.zip
  • PearlJamaholic
    PearlJamaholic Posts: 2,019
    Saturnal wrote:
    Did you download this?

    http://download.sysinternals.com/Files/ProcessExplorer.zip

    did now, wonder what the other thing was then. oh well.
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  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    Also, just as a test, you might want to disable Windows Defender. I've seen that cause issues like this for whatever reason.
  • PearlJamaholic
    PearlJamaholic Posts: 2,019
    Saturnal wrote:
    Also, just as a test, you might want to disable Windows Defender. I've seen that cause issues like this for whatever reason.

    should i turn on spybots little blocker thing or just let my antivirus handle everything?
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  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    PearlJamaholic wrote:
    should i turn on spybots little blocker thing or just let my antivirus handle everything?
    No, just turn off Defender and see if the spike/freezing still happens after you restart the machine. I'm saying this because Defender processes come under one of the svchost's
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    reading through this i had a thought.....the hard drive may be failing......probably not but you might want to do a backup before you do much more.....:)
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    PearlJamaholic wrote:
    already kinda answered this IE and svchost and they dont move much, nothing really does. just when something changes with the computer it comes to a head. thats why its puzzling.

    If your processor usage isn't spiking from an errant app, then your HD is fragmented beyond belief.


    What speed is your processor? and how much ram do you have?
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    If your processor usage isn't spiking from an errant app, then your HD is fragmented beyond belief.


    What speed is your processor? and how much ram do you have?
    Yep...might just need a defrag.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Saturnal wrote:
    Yep...might just need a defrag.

    It''s not guaranteed to be the cause, but if your system is clean of any malwares, it would have to be one specific action to cause the freezing rather than a systemic overall slowness thing unless one process was maxing out the CPU to 100% during the slow down. That's the general rule. There's always little suprises and exceptions to be found though.

    What you have also could be a adware timing out while trying to connect to dead servers on the internet (they got caught). Sometimes adwares will compete/conflict each other and really screw things up. If you're getting it without opening IE then adware is not the problem. sorry I didn't read if this was IE related or not.
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • PearlJamaholic
    PearlJamaholic Posts: 2,019
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    If your processor usage isn't spiking from an errant app, then your HD is fragmented beyond belief.


    What speed is your processor? and how much ram do you have?

    3 ghz with 2gb ram. i just checked says i dont need to defrag now. i do that stuff pretty regularly.
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  • PearlJamaholic
    PearlJamaholic Posts: 2,019
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    It''s not guaranteed to be the cause, but if your system is clean of any malwares, it would have to be one specific action to cause the freezing rather than a systemic overall slowness thing unless one process was maxing out the CPU to 100% during the slow down. That's the general rule. There's always little suprises and exceptions to be found though.

    What you have also could be a adware timing out while trying to connect to dead servers on the internet (they got caught). Sometimes adwares will compete/conflict each other and really screw things up. If you're getting it without opening IE then adware is not the problem. sorry I didn't read if this was IE related or not.

    and it is at least partly IE.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    PearlJamaholic wrote:
    3 ghz with 2gb ram. i just checked says i dont need to defrag now. i do that stuff pretty regularly.

    Well...it's certainly not a resource issue. CPU's last forever unless the cooling fan on them fails entirely (stops).

    With that speed of processor you should be at close to a few percent most of the time with occasional spikes as you open stuff.

    You have to determine which app is holding the processor time up at 80-100% leave task manager open on the side while you browse, one process has to make up the bulk of the 80-100% percentage.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    My thought is that it might be an issue with your RAM. Does your hard drive sound like it is working overtime when running programs?
  • sennin
    sennin Posts: 2,146
    A couple of questions....how processor, how much space left in C, how much RAM, what's your page file situation?
    ...
    ...

    Defrag.

    Delete all of your Windows/temp files.

    Delete all temp internet files.

    START>Run...>type in "msconfig". Go to the services and startup tabs, uncheck all programs you don't need running in the background. (If you don't know what a process or program does, Google it, make sure you don't need it.)


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  • PearlJamaholic
    PearlJamaholic Posts: 2,019
    RolandTD20Kdrummer
    its pretty much IE but its fine unless i try to do anything, doesnt even have to be using it if its open anything else takes it. from that process explorer program i now got it shows it pretty clear almost all crazy spikes are from IE. maybe time to switch browsers.

    PJPOWER
    the hd makes some noise but nothing to really worry about. and i recently upgraded ram(but way before this computer started acting weird)

    sennin
    just to sum it since most of its floating in here (this thread is bigger than i thought it would get, so thanks for all the help so far)
    8% left on hd, not good i know. dont need to defrag i do that often. i run ccleaner every week and then everyonce in awhile manually go through and killbox anything that wont go away. and startup is pretty slim pickins already. i think i have 3-4 non-windows programs at startup. page file is around 400 mb no idea what that means.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    PearlJamaholic wrote:
    RolandTD20Kdrummer
    its pretty much IE but its fine unless i try to do anything, doesnt even have to be using it if its open anything else takes it. from that process explorer program i now got it shows it pretty clear almost all crazy spikes are from IE. maybe time to switch browsers.

    PJPOWER
    the hd makes some noise but nothing to really worry about. and i recently upgraded ram(but way before this computer started acting weird)

    sennin
    just to sum it since most of its floating in here (this thread is bigger than i thought it would get, so thanks for all the help so far)
    8% left on hd, not good i know. dont need to defrag i do that often. i run ccleaner every week and then everyonce in awhile manually go through and killbox anything that wont go away. and startup is pretty slim pickins already. i think i have 3-4 non-windows programs at startup. page file is around 400 mb no idea what that means.


    What I would do is download firefox to see if it resolves.. It's a way better browser in every regard. You want to get the adblock plus addon for firefox as well.

    here:
    http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/

    then here:
    https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865 (make sure to choose a subscription server)

    then install this theme
    https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/72

    voila...nice solid browser.

    Alternately you can logon as another user, to see determine if it's your registry profile that's damaged. Windows just breaks after a while, many variables play into it the health and longevity of a user profile. I could determine the problem in 10 mins flat if I had your PC in front of me without question.

    Either of those two scenarios should identify and resolve the problem. I doesn't sound like a hardware issue to me.

    let me know.
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • sennin
    sennin Posts: 2,146
    PearlJamaholic wrote:
    RolandTD20Kdrummer
    its pretty much IE but its fine unless i try to do anything, doesnt even have to be using it if its open anything else takes it. from that process explorer program i now got it shows it pretty clear almost all crazy spikes are from IE. maybe time to switch browsers.

    PJPOWER
    the hd makes some noise but nothing to really worry about. and i recently upgraded ram(but way before this computer started acting weird)

    sennin
    just to sum it since most of its floating in here (this thread is bigger than i thought it would get, so thanks for all the help so far)
    8% left on hd, not good i know. dont need to defrag i do that often. i run ccleaner every week and then everyonce in awhile manually go through and killbox anything that wont go away. and startup is pretty slim pickins already. i think i have 3-4 non-windows programs at startup. page file is around 400 mb no idea what that means.

    imo, your lack of drive space and page file size are your biggest culprits. The page file is where Windows send recently used info on your hd so it can find it fast and easy. TONS of info is saved here, the more space you have the better off you are. Your page file should be about 1.5x to 2x's bigger than the amount of RAM that you have.

    If you have 512mb of ram, you should have about 1G of space allocated for yout page file. Generally, it's better to have Windows handle the page file....but it doesn't always do the best job.

    If you have multiple partitions on your hd, you can make things faster by moving the page file to a separate partition.

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