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  • If your processor usage isn't spiking from an errant app, then your HD is fragmented beyond belief.


    What speed is your processor? and how much ram do you have?
    Yep...might just need a defrag.
  • Saturnal wrote:
    Yep...might just need a defrag.

    It''s not guaranteed to be the cause, but if your system is clean of any malwares, it would have to be one specific action to cause the freezing rather than a systemic overall slowness thing unless one process was maxing out the CPU to 100% during the slow down. That's the general rule. There's always little suprises and exceptions to be found though.

    What you have also could be a adware timing out while trying to connect to dead servers on the internet (they got caught). Sometimes adwares will compete/conflict each other and really screw things up. If you're getting it without opening IE then adware is not the problem. sorry I didn't read if this was IE related or not.
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • If your processor usage isn't spiking from an errant app, then your HD is fragmented beyond belief.


    What speed is your processor? and how much ram do you have?

    3 ghz with 2gb ram. i just checked says i dont need to defrag now. i do that stuff pretty regularly.
  • It''s not guaranteed to be the cause, but if your system is clean of any malwares, it would have to be one specific action to cause the freezing rather than a systemic overall slowness thing unless one process was maxing out the CPU to 100% during the slow down. That's the general rule. There's always little suprises and exceptions to be found though.

    What you have also could be a adware timing out while trying to connect to dead servers on the internet (they got caught). Sometimes adwares will compete/conflict each other and really screw things up. If you're getting it without opening IE then adware is not the problem. sorry I didn't read if this was IE related or not.

    and it is at least partly IE.
  • 3 ghz with 2gb ram. i just checked says i dont need to defrag now. i do that stuff pretty regularly.

    Well...it's certainly not a resource issue. CPU's last forever unless the cooling fan on them fails entirely (stops).

    With that speed of processor you should be at close to a few percent most of the time with occasional spikes as you open stuff.

    You have to determine which app is holding the processor time up at 80-100% leave task manager open on the side while you browse, one process has to make up the bulk of the 80-100% percentage.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    My thought is that it might be an issue with your RAM. Does your hard drive sound like it is working overtime when running programs?
  • senninsennin Posts: 2,146
    A couple of questions....how processor, how much space left in C, how much RAM, what's your page file situation?
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    ...

    Defrag.

    Delete all of your Windows/temp files.

    Delete all temp internet files.

    START>Run...>type in "msconfig". Go to the services and startup tabs, uncheck all programs you don't need running in the background. (If you don't know what a process or program does, Google it, make sure you don't need it.)


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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    its pretty much IE but its fine unless i try to do anything, doesnt even have to be using it if its open anything else takes it. from that process explorer program i now got it shows it pretty clear almost all crazy spikes are from IE. maybe time to switch browsers.

    PJPOWER
    the hd makes some noise but nothing to really worry about. and i recently upgraded ram(but way before this computer started acting weird)

    sennin
    just to sum it since most of its floating in here (this thread is bigger than i thought it would get, so thanks for all the help so far)
    8% left on hd, not good i know. dont need to defrag i do that often. i run ccleaner every week and then everyonce in awhile manually go through and killbox anything that wont go away. and startup is pretty slim pickins already. i think i have 3-4 non-windows programs at startup. page file is around 400 mb no idea what that means.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    its pretty much IE but its fine unless i try to do anything, doesnt even have to be using it if its open anything else takes it. from that process explorer program i now got it shows it pretty clear almost all crazy spikes are from IE. maybe time to switch browsers.

    PJPOWER
    the hd makes some noise but nothing to really worry about. and i recently upgraded ram(but way before this computer started acting weird)

    sennin
    just to sum it since most of its floating in here (this thread is bigger than i thought it would get, so thanks for all the help so far)
    8% left on hd, not good i know. dont need to defrag i do that often. i run ccleaner every week and then everyonce in awhile manually go through and killbox anything that wont go away. and startup is pretty slim pickins already. i think i have 3-4 non-windows programs at startup. page file is around 400 mb no idea what that means.


    What I would do is download firefox to see if it resolves.. It's a way better browser in every regard. You want to get the adblock plus addon for firefox as well.

    here:
    http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/

    then here:
    https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865 (make sure to choose a subscription server)

    then install this theme
    https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/72

    voila...nice solid browser.

    Alternately you can logon as another user, to see determine if it's your registry profile that's damaged. Windows just breaks after a while, many variables play into it the health and longevity of a user profile. I could determine the problem in 10 mins flat if I had your PC in front of me without question.

    Either of those two scenarios should identify and resolve the problem. I doesn't sound like a hardware issue to me.

    let me know.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • senninsennin Posts: 2,146
    RolandTD20Kdrummer
    its pretty much IE but its fine unless i try to do anything, doesnt even have to be using it if its open anything else takes it. from that process explorer program i now got it shows it pretty clear almost all crazy spikes are from IE. maybe time to switch browsers.

    PJPOWER
    the hd makes some noise but nothing to really worry about. and i recently upgraded ram(but way before this computer started acting weird)

    sennin
    just to sum it since most of its floating in here (this thread is bigger than i thought it would get, so thanks for all the help so far)
    8% left on hd, not good i know. dont need to defrag i do that often. i run ccleaner every week and then everyonce in awhile manually go through and killbox anything that wont go away. and startup is pretty slim pickins already. i think i have 3-4 non-windows programs at startup. page file is around 400 mb no idea what that means.

    imo, your lack of drive space and page file size are your biggest culprits. The page file is where Windows send recently used info on your hd so it can find it fast and easy. TONS of info is saved here, the more space you have the better off you are. Your page file should be about 1.5x to 2x's bigger than the amount of RAM that you have.

    If you have 512mb of ram, you should have about 1G of space allocated for yout page file. Generally, it's better to have Windows handle the page file....but it doesn't always do the best job.

    If you have multiple partitions on your hd, you can make things faster by moving the page file to a separate partition.
  • how do i adjust page file? ive never messed with that before.
  • senninsennin Posts: 2,146
    how do i adjust page file? ive never messed with that before.

    http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.php
  • ah its virtual memory! i messed around with that before. but according to the article i only need ram+VM=500mb or atleast 100mb. the virtual memory is set 'system mange size' and has 2046 allocated already. and im only using around 400 of that. so i should be ok with page file/VM, right? i use to have it set at custom at the recommended 3096. i dont remember if i had the max at or above 3096.
  • ah its virtual memory! i messed around with that before. but according to the article i only need ram+VM=500mb or atleast 100mb. the virtual memory is set 'system mange size' and has 2046 allocated already. and im only using around 400 of that. so i should be ok with page file/VM, right? i use to have it set at custom at the recommended 3096. i dont remember if i had the max at or above 3096.


    You have 2 gigs of ram. I wouldn't worry about your page file, you have to exceed avail hardware ram before windows starts creating it virtually on your drive. Set it to 2048 and make it static not dynamic, as it won't get fragmented that way.

    Your PC isn't going to experience any performance issues until you're at about 100bm of free and less on your drive typically in the 50mb range for what you are describing on a workstation. If it's XP the O/S would be bugging you about it long before then anyways. Especially seeing as your files are not fragmented. I've setup a lot of production servers and seen some pretty crazy situations.

    My take is your browser has been knicked by malware in the past and is damaged in the registry to a certain degree.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • What I would do is download firefox to see if it resolves.. It's a way better browser in every regard. You want to get the adblock plus addon for firefox as well.

    here:
    http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/

    then here:
    https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865 (make sure to choose a subscription server)

    then install this theme
    https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/72

    voila...nice solid browser.

    Alternately you can logon as another user, to see determine if it's your registry profile that's damaged. Windows just breaks after a while, many variables play into it the health and longevity of a user profile. I could determine the problem in 10 mins flat if I had your PC in front of me without question.

    Either of those two scenarios should identify and resolve the problem. I doesn't sound like a hardware issue to me.

    let me know.

    ok im running firefox now. no real verdict yet but it doesnt lag when i go to different pages, atleast not yet. the font looks strange to me though.
  • ok im running firefox now. no real verdict yet but it doesnt lag when i go to different pages, atleast not yet. the font looks strange to me though.

    I'm not sure what the default font sets are for each. You can hold down the ctrl button and use the scroll wheel on the mouse up and down to adjust the font size real quick. On the content page in options you can set the font to arial if it isn't already.

    I'd be curious to know if your hosts file has anything extra in it.

    You can find it at c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc

    double click the file called "hosts" and open it with notepad when asked to choose a program.

    it should look something like this, and have one entry for localhost 127.0.0.1 (by default)

    i.e.

    # This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows.
    # This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each
    # entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should
    # be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name.
    # The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least one space.
    # Additionally, comments (such as these) may be inserted on individual
    # lines or following the machine name denoted by a '#' symbol.
    # For example:
    # Permit this.

    127.0.0.1 localhost


    I can't count how many adware/malware infestations I've cleaned up for people. It's practically all I did for two years on service calls at one point, before people got wise to using spybot ad aware etc... It's still a pretty big problem. Make surte to install adblock plus as well, it blocks all the knows adware sites at the domain level.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • this is what i have. should i delete the acme ones?

    # For example:
    #
    # 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # source server
    # 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x client host

    127.0.0.1 localhost

    and thanks for all the help. im pretty much always trying to learn new things. i had to reinstall windows a-many-a times cause i had to mess with things. but you learn some stuff. but you can only learn so much just by trial and error approach.
  • this is what i have. should i delete the acme ones?

    # For example:
    #
    # 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # source server
    # 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x client host

    127.0.0.1 localhost

    and thanks for all the help. im pretty much always trying to learn new things. i had to reinstall windows a-many-a times cause i had to mess with things. but you learn some stuff. but you can only learn so much just by trial and error approach.
    Anything with a # in front of it isn't being used, so you don't need to delete those.
  • im giving firefox another chance. i definitely need to fix the font though. work on that later. and does the bookmarks do the same thing that IE does that it only shows your most used?

    i do like the master password thing though.
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