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  • evenflow
    evenflow Posts: 401
    I've been on it for almost ten years now. I'm up to two in the morning and two more in the afternoon. I was on the time release, but it wasn't covered by my insurance, so I had to switch to generic, which is why I have to take so many. Now I don't even feel them anymore. I will say this though, I was diagnosed with severe ADD and Dyslexia, and I would have never made it through college if it wasn't for the adderall.

    It wasn't untill a couple of years ago though that I finally found out why it works for people with ADD. I was told that the normal human brain operates in four basic stages, theres sleep, then the foggy stage when you first wake up, then there is a middle stage where you spend most of your waking day. This is when you function but could still slip off into a daydream or something like that. This is the stage where you do the tasks that don't take a lot of thought. Then the fourth level is when you are focused and attentive, like when you study or are working on something that requires a lot of attention.

    People with ADD have a hard time getting their brain to stay in this fourth level. For whatever reason we just chill in the third level. The Adderall speeds us up and as a result helps kick the brain up to the fourth level.

    And I had always wondered why they would give speed to someone who doesn't pay attention already. This explanation makes a lot of sense to me.
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  • CityMouse
    CityMouse Posts: 1,010
    evenflow wrote:
    I've been on it for almost ten years now. I'm up to two in the morning and two more in the afternoon. I was on the time release, but it wasn't covered by my insurance, so I had to switch to generic, which is why I have to take so many. Now I don't even feel them anymore. I will say this though, I was diagnosed with severe ADD and Dyslexia, and I would have never made it through college if it wasn't for the adderall.

    It wasn't untill a couple of years ago though that I finally found out why it works for people with ADD. I was told that the normal human brain operates in four basic stages, theres sleep, then the foggy stage when you first wake up, then there is a middle stage where you spend most of your waking day. This is when you function but could still slip off into a daydream or something like that. This is the stage where you do the tasks that don't take a lot of thought. Then the fourth level is when you are focused and attentive, like when you study or are working on something that requires a lot of attention.

    People with ADD have a hard time getting their brain to stay in this fourth level. For whatever reason we just chill in the third level. The Adderall speeds us up and as a result helps kick the brain up to the fourth level.

    And I had always wondered why they would give speed to someone who doesn't pay attention already. This explanation makes a lot of sense to me.

    very interesting. as far as I have learned, there are a lot of different types of ADD/ADHD too, so this could be one explanation. I think I get into that 4th phase sometimes, which is why she said I have hyperfocus ADHD. the problem is I have to be really excited to be in that forth phase. it also probably explains why I tend to focus better in the evening. thanks for that, I haven't heard this explanation before.
  • lanners
    lanners Posts: 458
    CityMouse wrote:
    ok...so...the other thing I was wondering...

    I have hyperfocus ADHD, so I tend to hyperfocus on things that ARE interesting or important to me. So if you take Adderall, how do you know you'll focus on the right thing? So say you've got a memo due at work, how do I know I'll focus on that and not read the entirity of the lastest issue of Slate or something?

    I tend to hyperfocus by times, but i'm finding that it's not as prominent as it used to be. My biggest problem that was interfering with my work was having 9 things on the go and never finishing one...i'd start writing a letter and suddenly switch to doing the mail, to filing, to surfing the internet, to taking phone calls, to remembering something i wanted to tell someone at the other end of the office...and i'd never really notice that I was doing it. I'm more cognizant now when i'm doing it. I try to keep my multitasking down to one or two things (when i catch it).

    I also had a problem with impulsivity (speaking, thinking, shopping, etc) and that's pretty much gone now (which is awesome!)

    My biggest problem that's not helped by the meds is my ability to deal with switching gears...like when things are humming along and suddenly something unexpected comes along. According to my therapist, my temporal lobe starts to misfire and i panic. We're going to start working on some way of controlling this at the end of the month.

    Did i mention i talk a lot more? I always was a little chatty, well now i'm a regular motormouth.

    I just wish i had been diagnosed at a younger age instead of at 35. I might not have racked up such a huge student loan debt and still have no university degree! ;)
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  • CityMouse
    CityMouse Posts: 1,010
    lanners wrote:
    I tend to hyperfocus by times, but i'm finding that it's not as prominent as it used to be. My biggest problem that was interfering with my work was having 9 things on the go and never finishing one...i'd start writing a letter and suddenly switch to doing the mail, to filing, to surfing the internet, to taking phone calls, to remembering something i wanted to tell someone at the other end of the office...and i'd never really notice that I was doing it. I'm more cognizant now when i'm doing it. I try to keep my multitasking down to one or two things (when i catch it).

    I also had a problem with impulsivity (speaking, thinking, shopping, etc) and that's pretty much gone now (which is awesome!)

    My biggest problem that's not helped by the meds is my ability to deal with switching gears...like when things are humming along and suddenly something unexpected comes along. According to my therapist, my temporal lobe starts to misfire and i panic. We're going to start working on some way of controlling this at the end of the month.

    Did i mention i talk a lot more? I always was a little chatty, well now i'm a regular motormouth.

    I just wish i had been diagnosed at a younger age instead of at 35. I might not have racked up such a huge student loan debt and still have no university degree! ;)

    oh that's really too bad that you have students loans but never finished! Yeah I just got diagnosed in my 30s too...I think when we were kids no one was looking for ADHD...especially if you were a girl (I'm a girl).
  • lanners wrote:
    I tend to hyperfocus by times, but i'm finding that it's not as prominent as it used to be. My biggest problem that was interfering with my work was having 9 things on the go and never finishing one...i'd start writing a letter and suddenly switch to doing the mail, to filing, to surfing the internet, to taking phone calls, to remembering something i wanted to tell someone at the other end of the office...and i'd never really notice that I was doing it. I'm more cognizant now when i'm doing it. I try to keep my multitasking down to one or two things (when i catch it).

    I also had a problem with impulsivity (speaking, thinking, shopping, etc) and that's pretty much gone now (which is awesome!)

    My biggest problem that's not helped by the meds is my ability to deal with switching gears...like when things are humming along and suddenly something unexpected comes along. According to my therapist, my temporal lobe starts to misfire and i panic. We're going to start working on some way of controlling this at the end of the month.

    Did i mention i talk a lot more? I always was a little chatty, well now i'm a regular motormouth.

    I just wish i had been diagnosed at a younger age instead of at 35. I might not have racked up such a huge student loan debt and still have no university degree! ;)

    Damn, I could have written this post. I wrote something so similar to your first paragraph in my journal that it freaked me out for a second. I was diagnosed at 34, but am 35 now (at least for next couple of weeks).
  • CityMouse
    CityMouse Posts: 1,010
    Damn, I could have written this post. I wrote something so similar to your first paragraph in my journal that it freaked me out for a second. I was diagnosed at 34, but am 35 now (at least for next couple of weeks).

    I am just NOW realizing I have a problem with impulsivity, mostly with speaking, but other things too.
  • lanners
    lanners Posts: 458
    CityMouse wrote:
    oh that's really too bad that you have students loans but never finished! Yeah I just got diagnosed in my 30s too...I think when we were kids no one was looking for ADHD...especially if you were a girl (I'm a girl).

    I am a girl too...or at least i was last time i checked. ;)

    When we were kids in the 70s, kids like us were just slow, lazy or bad. In the early 80s we were hyper or lazy or sometimes stuck in remedial classes for those ones we just couldn't get a handle on. In the later 80s only the boys bouncing off the walls were even considered to have ADHD. In the 90s they suddenly started looking at the other kids who didn't perform to their "potential" and saw that maybe they could have this problem too.

    Now there's a whole generation of "kids" who are suddenly realizing that after years and years of feeling inadequate and suffering through low self-esteem it was really for naught.

    While I wasn't thrilled over my diagnosis (or the cost of it), that bit of validation has lifted 30 years of self-doubt and loathing off my shoulders. It is nice to hear from other people my age who are just being diagnosed...in a strange way it's comforting because we've all been through similar things that other people can't relate to.

    Ramble...ramble...ramble...i didn't take my meds today...this message has taken an eternity to write. ;)
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  • CityMouse
    CityMouse Posts: 1,010
    lanners wrote:
    I am a girl too...or at least i was last time i checked. ;)

    When we were kids in the 70s, kids like us were just slow, lazy or bad. In the early 80s we were hyper or lazy or sometimes stuck in remedial classes for those ones we just couldn't get a handle on. In the later 80s only the boys bouncing off the walls were even considered to have ADHD. In the 90s they suddenly started looking at the other kids who didn't perform to their "potential" and saw that maybe they could have this problem too.

    Now there's a whole generation of "kids" who are suddenly realizing that after years and years of feeling inadequate and suffering through low self-esteem it was really for naught.

    While I wasn't thrilled over my diagnosis (or the cost of it), that bit of validation has lifted 30 years of self-doubt and loathing off my shoulders. It is nice to hear from other people my age who are just being diagnosed...in a strange way it's comforting because we've all been through similar things that other people can't relate to.

    Ramble...ramble...ramble...i didn't take my meds today...this message has taken an eternity to write. ;)

    I did well in school as a kid but I got horrible marks in "conduct and effort" in elementary school. I also had major issues getting my work done, especially if it was something I already knew how to do, like I hated repeating arithmatic skills over and over or doing grammer exercises which I always thought were too easy (like it was almost physically painful). I've also ALWAYS had trouble taking timed tests. Really looking back on it it seems extremely obvious that I had this problem (I've suspected it for years but never really did anything about it- ha! probably because I have ADHD) but I guess back then no one cared. Plus I went to a pretty shitty high school so they probably didn't even know what it was...
  • writersu
    writersu Posts: 1,867
    CityMouse wrote:
    Does anyone take it?

    I was just diagnosed with ADHD and the doctor wants me to take Adderall but I told him I'd think about. I'm trying to research it, but I don't know anyone who takes it and it would be interesting to hear about REAL experiences with it.

    it just seems a little scary to me for some reason.

    I have been diagnosed with the same condition for about 3 oe 4 years now. I am taking Adderall and it has helped me alot. At first, the doctor had to see how much I needed and what sort of Adderall; XR or just the regular version. XR is the time released version.
    After like a month, I was regulated in my medicine and then it worked much better.
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  • CityMouse
    CityMouse Posts: 1,010
    writersu wrote:
    I have been diagnosed with the same condition for about 3 oe 4 years now. I am taking Adderall and it has helped me alot. At first, the doctor had to see how much I needed and what sort of Adderall; XR or just the regular version. XR is the time released version.
    After like a month, I was regulated in my medicine and then it worked much better.

    seems very similar to the medicine I'm currently taking in that respect.
    thanks.
  • CityMouse
    CityMouse Posts: 1,010
    I think I'm going to try it!

    I'm not going to the dr. again until sometime mid-august, but after my research on Adderall, I actually can't wait!

    I'm hoping it will make do better at work and also maybe allow me to do things I've never been able to do but always wanted to.

    I wish someone had told me I had ADHD a long time ago...maybe I wouldn't have failed at so many things!
  • lanners
    lanners Posts: 458
    CityMouse wrote:
    I wish someone had told me I had ADHD a long time ago...maybe I wouldn't have failed at so many things!

    I have pondered that thought so many times myself since finding out, but have come to the conclusion that Douglas Adams had it right when he said:

    "I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be."

    (on a side note: I have had a small victory this week...i went to two movies and didn't drive the person sitting next to me absolutely batty with my constant shifting and restlessness!)
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  • CityMouse
    CityMouse Posts: 1,010
    lanners wrote:
    (on a side note: I have had a small victory this week...i went to two movies and didn't drive the person sitting next to me absolutely batty with my constant shifting and restlessness!)

    I know a lot of people who would be stoked if this happened to me...
  • curmudgeoness
    curmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,130
    The main point I would add to what has already been posted is, be sure to be aware of the potential side-effects. Stimulant drugs work great for many people with ADHD, but for some the side-effects are just as bad as the ADHD, if not worse. Good luck!
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  • sponger
    sponger Posts: 3,159
    A friend of mine had really bad ADHD, and after he was prescribed Ritalin, his whole life changed for the better. He was getting A's in school and he taught himself computer hardware repair and a bunch of other computer shit. This was back in the mid 90's, so he was able to start his own business with what little he knew. Now that business is doing fairly well.

    But, according to him, he could not actually feel the Ritalin. All he knew was that he was able to concentrate more.

    On the other hand, when I took his Ritalin for fun, it made me really super high -almost like I was on amphetamines.

    So, if you really have ADHD, then you probably won't notice the meds that much.
  • CityMouse
    CityMouse Posts: 1,010
    sponger wrote:

    So, if you really have ADHD, then you probably won't notice the meds that much.

    I don't know if it's a matter of "really" having ADHD. i think it is more an issue of drugs having certain side effects on some people and not on others. the doctor assured me I'd probably feel like this when I started taking, and he's assuming I "really" have ADHD. Plus, I think I mentioned it earlier, but the studies of ADHD are now starting to lean toward it not really being a disease or a "disorder" but rather just some genetic programming that was useful to humans thousands of years ago and is now counterproductive.
  • writersu
    writersu Posts: 1,867
    CityMouse wrote:
    I think I'm going to try it!

    I'm not going to the dr. again until sometime mid-august, but after my research on Adderall, I actually can't wait!

    I'm hoping it will make do better at work and also maybe allow me to do things I've never been able to do but always wanted to.

    I wish someone had told me I had ADHD a long time ago...maybe I wouldn't have failed at so many things!


    That is exactly the whole point. I thought I was a loser, a quitter, a druggee until I was diagnosed and then learned why I had felt so out of the norm. I was self medicating but it didn't help me because I was not addressing the ADHD thing. The depression, the moods, the intensity is there but in my control and toward what is truly worthy of intense feelings, not just MY mood, you know? So many people have not known they have this. some people say that it is overdiagnosed. If that is true, then it is because we are too bust nowadays and until we slow down, we will still be full of this condition.
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  • adderall is bad news.

    it is basically amphetamine. i wouldn't recommend anyone take it, ADD or not.

    drugs are bad kids.
  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    DUDE.

    do NOT take Adderall!!

    It's a HIGHLY addictive drug, and is VERY dangerous!! I did an entire research project on Adderall, Ritalin, and all drugs like it. One of my closest friends was prescribed Adderall for ADHD and other conditions he had, and after a while, he forced himself to stop taking it...

    Adderall works!! It's great.... but it's a little TOO great. That's the problem. The feeling it gives you is that you can do anythign when you're on it. When you're not on Adderall, you feel like you can't accomplish anything. It's so easy to abuse this drug... It's BANNED in Canada for a reason! There have been ATLEAST 12 sudden deaths linked to drug abuse with Adderall. It's becoming more prevalent in the streets.

    I HIGHLY suggest you do NOT take this drug. It's extremely dangerous. ADHD, while serious, can be controlled if you take the initiative. Some caffeine doesn't hurt either. ;)
  • writersu
    writersu Posts: 1,867
    _outlaw wrote:
    DUDE.

    do NOT take Adderall!!

    It's a HIGHLY addictive drug, and is VERY dangerous!! I did an entire research project on Adderall, Ritalin, and all drugs like it. One of my closest friends was prescribed Adderall for ADHD and other conditions he had, and after a while, he forced himself to stop taking it...

    Adderall works!! It's great.... but it's a little TOO great. That's the problem. The feeling it gives you is that you can do anythign when you're on it. When you're not on Adderall, you feel like you can't accomplish anything. It's so easy to abuse this drug... It's BANNED in Canada for a reason! There have been ATLEAST 12 sudden deaths linked to drug abuse with Adderall. It's becoming more prevalent in the streets.

    I HIGHLY suggest you do NOT take this drug. It's extremely dangerous. ADHD, while serious, can be controlled if you take the initiative. Some caffeine doesn't hurt either. ;)


    I am curious. Do you have this condition as well? Or are you a dr?
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