I wish someone had told me I had ADHD a long time ago...maybe I wouldn't have failed at so many things!
I have pondered that thought so many times myself since finding out, but have come to the conclusion that Douglas Adams had it right when he said:
"I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be."
(on a side note: I have had a small victory this week...i went to two movies and didn't drive the person sitting next to me absolutely batty with my constant shifting and restlessness!)
(on a side note: I have had a small victory this week...i went to two movies and didn't drive the person sitting next to me absolutely batty with my constant shifting and restlessness!)
I know a lot of people who would be stoked if this happened to me...
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The main point I would add to what has already been posted is, be sure to be aware of the potential side-effects. Stimulant drugs work great for many people with ADHD, but for some the side-effects are just as bad as the ADHD, if not worse. Good luck!
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A friend of mine had really bad ADHD, and after he was prescribed Ritalin, his whole life changed for the better. He was getting A's in school and he taught himself computer hardware repair and a bunch of other computer shit. This was back in the mid 90's, so he was able to start his own business with what little he knew. Now that business is doing fairly well.
But, according to him, he could not actually feel the Ritalin. All he knew was that he was able to concentrate more.
On the other hand, when I took his Ritalin for fun, it made me really super high -almost like I was on amphetamines.
So, if you really have ADHD, then you probably won't notice the meds that much.
So, if you really have ADHD, then you probably won't notice the meds that much.
I don't know if it's a matter of "really" having ADHD. i think it is more an issue of drugs having certain side effects on some people and not on others. the doctor assured me I'd probably feel like this when I started taking, and he's assuming I "really" have ADHD. Plus, I think I mentioned it earlier, but the studies of ADHD are now starting to lean toward it not really being a disease or a "disorder" but rather just some genetic programming that was useful to humans thousands of years ago and is now counterproductive.
I'm not going to the dr. again until sometime mid-august, but after my research on Adderall, I actually can't wait!
I'm hoping it will make do better at work and also maybe allow me to do things I've never been able to do but always wanted to.
I wish someone had told me I had ADHD a long time ago...maybe I wouldn't have failed at so many things!
That is exactly the whole point. I thought I was a loser, a quitter, a druggee until I was diagnosed and then learned why I had felt so out of the norm. I was self medicating but it didn't help me because I was not addressing the ADHD thing. The depression, the moods, the intensity is there but in my control and toward what is truly worthy of intense feelings, not just MY mood, you know? So many people have not known they have this. some people say that it is overdiagnosed. If that is true, then it is because we are too bust nowadays and until we slow down, we will still be full of this condition.
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
It's a HIGHLY addictive drug, and is VERY dangerous!! I did an entire research project on Adderall, Ritalin, and all drugs like it. One of my closest friends was prescribed Adderall for ADHD and other conditions he had, and after a while, he forced himself to stop taking it...
Adderall works!! It's great.... but it's a little TOO great. That's the problem. The feeling it gives you is that you can do anythign when you're on it. When you're not on Adderall, you feel like you can't accomplish anything. It's so easy to abuse this drug... It's BANNED in Canada for a reason! There have been ATLEAST 12 sudden deaths linked to drug abuse with Adderall. It's becoming more prevalent in the streets.
I HIGHLY suggest you do NOT take this drug. It's extremely dangerous. ADHD, while serious, can be controlled if you take the initiative. Some caffeine doesn't hurt either.
It's a HIGHLY addictive drug, and is VERY dangerous!! I did an entire research project on Adderall, Ritalin, and all drugs like it. One of my closest friends was prescribed Adderall for ADHD and other conditions he had, and after a while, he forced himself to stop taking it...
Adderall works!! It's great.... but it's a little TOO great. That's the problem. The feeling it gives you is that you can do anythign when you're on it. When you're not on Adderall, you feel like you can't accomplish anything. It's so easy to abuse this drug... It's BANNED in Canada for a reason! There have been ATLEAST 12 sudden deaths linked to drug abuse with Adderall. It's becoming more prevalent in the streets.
I HIGHLY suggest you do NOT take this drug. It's extremely dangerous. ADHD, while serious, can be controlled if you take the initiative. Some caffeine doesn't hurt either.
I am curious. Do you have this condition as well? Or are you a dr?
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
I don't know if it's a matter of "really" having ADHD. i think it is more an issue of drugs having certain side effects on some people and not on others. the doctor assured me I'd probably feel like this when I started taking, and he's assuming I "really" have ADHD. Plus, I think I mentioned it earlier, but the studies of ADHD are now starting to lean toward it not really being a disease or a "disorder" but rather just some genetic programming that was useful to humans thousands of years ago and is now counterproductive.
Unless the definition of ADHD has changed in the last few years, then yes it is a matter of "really" having ADHD.
ADHD is caused by a form of severe depression, which the body tries to counteract with its own "anti-depressant." The body then allows too much of it into the system, and that's where the hyperactivity comes from.
Adderal and Ritalin are the uppers needed to fight the severe depression, so that the body does not try to regulate it on its own.
That's why people who do not have that condition will get high from it.
Unless the definition of ADHD has changed in the last few years, then yes it is a matter of "really" having ADHD.
ADHD is caused by a form of severe depression, which the body tries to counteract with its own "anti-depressant." The body then allows too much of it into the system, and that's where the hyperactivity comes from.
Adderal and Ritalin are the uppers needed to fight the severe depression, so that the body does not try to regulate it on its own.
That's why people who do not have that condition will get high from it.
hmm... I think you're making an assumption or an association. I do not think ADHD is caused by a form of severe depression. Rather, it's more of inattentiveness and hyperactivity, largely due to low levels Dopamine, which is a neurological hormone. ADHD and depression are associated, but one does not cause the other. While depression is a symptom of ADHD, it is not a known CAUSE of it. They're just associated, I think, because both involve low levels of dopamine. However, while Serotonin is often used for depression, dopamine is used directly for ADHD.
Adderall and Ritalin are not needed to fight severe depression. In fact, Adderall is not usually prescribed to depressed people, but moreso to narcoleptic people and people diagnosed with ADHD.
Adderall has amphetamine salts in it. It's an addictive drug and can get anyone high/addicted.
hmm... I think you're making an assumption or an association. I do not think ADHD is caused by a form of severe depression. Rather, it's more of inattentiveness and hyperactivity, largely due to low levels Dopamine, which is a neurological hormone. ADHD and depression are associated, but one does not cause the other. While depression is a symptom of ADHD, it is not a known CAUSE of it. They're just associated, I think, because both involve low levels of dopamine. However, while Serotonin is often used for depression, dopamine is used directly for ADHD.
Adderall and Ritalin are not needed to fight severe depression. In fact, Adderall is not usually prescribed to depressed people, but moreso to narcoleptic people and people diagnosed with ADHD.
Adderall has amphetamine salts in it. It's an addictive drug and can get anyone high/addicted.
yeah I'm sorry but I went to a class about what ADHD is and how it is treated and nobody has said anything about it being a "severe form of depression." people often GET forms of depression and anxiety when they have it, but it's not one in the same.
Research has shown recently that it is an evolutionary trait left over in the population from hunter-gatherer days that remains in some people.
Outlaw- it is no longer banned in Canada- get your facts straight if you're going to be so adamant about them.
All I know is that I wish I had the adderall now. I was stupid not to take it last time I went to the doctor. I am suffering at work and about to have a break down because I can't function.
I'm hoping it will make do better at work and also maybe allow me to do things I've never been able to do but always wanted to.
I wish someone had told me I had ADHD a long time ago...maybe I wouldn't have failed at so many things!
i could have written that.
i read something in the newspaper about 10 years ago and realized
that i had ADD. I was about 32 and it was an amzing revelation.
i had no idea why but i had lived up til then pretty much failing or giving up everything i attempted.
if i had only had the help in high school and college... who know what i could have accomplished.
i lived in a blizzard - always overwhelmed with everything.
anyway, my point is...
meds can really help... give it a try and good luck
i could have written that.
i read something in the newspaper about 10 years ago and realized
that i had ADD. I was about 32 and it was an amzing revelation.
i had no idea why but i had lived up til then pretty much failing or giving up everything i attempted.
if i had only had the help in high school and college... who know what i could have accomplished.
i lived in a blizzard - always overwhelmed with everything.
anyway, my point is...
meds can really help... give it a try and good luck
thanks.
I managed to get by in high school (even though it was a struggle most of the time), and thrived in college and grad school. that's why no one ever thought I had it. working in an office, however, is torture for me. it is too disorganized and I can't function if other people are expecting something from me. I can't do things unless I get some kind of inspiration. it's also just too boring, and then having to sit still on top of it is almost too much to ask of me. I've also never been able to do things I wanted to like play guitar- I pace around looking at the thing but could never get myself to sit down and practice, and when I did, I would just give up immediately. I also have a hard time doing things like cleaning, because I know I can't get everything perfect, so I just think about it instead of doing it, or I'll start it and then give up.
I managed to get by in high school (even though it was a struggle most of the time), and thrived in college and grad school. that's why no one ever thought I had it. working in an office, however, is torture for me. it is too disorganized and I can't function if other people are expecting something from me. I can't do things unless I get some kind of inspiration. it's also just too boring, and then having to sit still on top of it is almost too much to ask of me. I've also never been able to do things I wanted to like play guitar- I pace around looking at the thing but could never get myself to sit down and practice, and when I did, I would just give up immediately. I also have a hard time doing things like cleaning, because I know I can't get everything perfect, so I just think about it instead of doing it, or I'll start it and then give up.
oh man... the cleaning thing.
starting and giving up...
sheesh.
it;s funny because i am a merchandiser for a toy company, i have to arrange things and organize them in stores. but the work varies and i'm not really in the same place or doing the same thing for too long.
when i have to sit in meetings, i have to have pen and paper to doodle, write, etc.
i worked in an office years ago.. don;t want to ever do that again.
i would walk around, up and down the stairway... spin in the chair.
i was in my twenties but acted like i was 10.
couldn;t stay on the same task for too long.
if you ever want to chat about this, pm me
there's some good reading material out there.
serena
oh man... the cleaning thing.
starting and giving up...
sheesh.
it;s funny because i am a merchandiser for a toy company, i have to arrange things and organize them in stores. but the work varies and i'm not really in the same place or doing the same thing for too long.
when i have to sit in meetings, i have to have pen and paper to doodle, write, etc.
i worked in an office years ago.. don;t want to ever do that again.
i would walk around, up and down the stairway... spin in the chair.
i was in my twenties but acted like i was 10.
couldn;t stay on the same task for too long.
if you ever want to chat about this, pm me
there's some good reading material out there.
serena
thanks serena, this is so much like me! I was in a meeting once and I covered a whole notepad with doodles and I knew my bosses thought I wasn't listening. I was listening, but I can't listen without doodling. I also like to switch tasks all the time. I think these are some of the reasons I also did well in college and grad school- first of all you're expected to take vigorous notes as you listen, you get to switch tasks and you get to move around whenever you want and you can take as long as you want to do things. I like to organize things actually. my therapist said it is common with ADHD- you can't create internal order without external order first. this is actually pretty big for me.
actually about giving up- my first job out of college all of my performance reviews said "gives up too easily." I thought it was total bullshit at the time, I didn't FEEL like I was giving up too easily. but looking back on it, maybe it was a symptom.
I have ADD or ADHD, which ever you wanna call it.
I was diagnosed with this when I was in 2nd or 3rd grade.
I had to take Riddlin for years.
I am now 36 yrs old and back in school.
Holy-shit batman is school ever tough, yes it is.
Paying attention to certain things is a daily struggle,
or rather, every moment to moment is a struggle.
I loose/misplace everything just about.
I think i'd loose my head if it wasn't attached to my shoulders.
I am the poster child of carefree unorganization.
I recently just the other day went and seen my physician.
She gave me a script i'll be picking up my meds soon.
And I understand the fears of taking meds for this stuff.
Who wants to change the way their mind works? not me
Except i'll (i am) suffer academiclly if i don't.
The deal is getting focused and staying focused.
Hard to focus on the task at hand when one's mind is doing
14 other things all @ once off in the clouds someplace.
Good luck to you all that have this condition.
We are not stupid people, far from it. (brilliant or genius even)
And don't be scared.
it's refreshing to hear from other people with ADHD, especially adults dealing with it. it's hard to explain things to people who don't deal with it personally on a daily basis.
I came across an article that explains a lot of what I feel and passed it along to some of the managers at my office so they might gain a little insight.
I was always a feast or famine student...I'd do really well, or I would just be apathetic towards school. I got diagnosed when I was 28.
Having ADD has allowed me to develop my personality as a wiseguy since I sometime lack mental filters, and say stuff that would be best left unsaid at times.
I made the choice to become a CPA, which is not a great choice for those with ADD. Without Ritalin, I would have had trouble focusing on the CPA exam, and tax season would be worse then usual.
i explain ADD/ADHD as trying to narrow down one's thoughts and actions.
try reading a book when it's the size of a wall, can't focus.
open your arms as wide as they can be when in fact they only need be open a few tiny inches (centimeters) or something like that.
that and being hyper active and not being able to sit still for very long.
im all over the place = shotgun thinking patterns and actions.
to many thoughts/ideas happening/firing in my brain all @ the same time.
my grades in school always were shit.
i was in the learning disability classes.
that made me very shy and kinda hidden from the norm.
i never got a decent grade in any class except gym class.`
im not as hyper as i was when i was a kid.
as a kid i couldn't be stopped.
i played several sports at the same time daily.
football, baseball, boxing, kick boxing, swimming, weight lifting, and riding bikes.
boxing alone tires out most ppl as it is very much a physically demanding activiting.
hell no, not me.
after school i went to the boxing club and trained all afternoon, went home and did whatever sport or went swimming.
having ADD/ADHD was good for my physical body as i was built like a grown man when i was still a young kid.
weird shit i suppose but that's how i was.
i wish i had that full energy back.
i wasn't hyper as a child. i was distracted, daydreamy and as some people called me, lazy. i was disorganized as hell (still am, although i've developed my theory of organized chaos and it seems to work for me and me alone) and never finished what i started.
i was shocked when the diagnosis of ADHD was given. my therapist told me that while i might not appear to be outwardly hyperactive, my brain is firing off like an uzi.
my problem is in the temporal lobe. my frontal lobe hums along pretty well but my temporal has a mind of it's own and misfires rapidly, especially when something unexpected comes at me, not to mention the thoughts that are constantly flying around in my head.
i think that was one of the first thing i noticed once i started taking the medication...when i went to bed at night my mind wasn't racing. it was actually quiet up there.
a question for everyone who's been dxed with ADD or ADHD, has anyone taken the TOVA test? (the one where you sit in front of a computer screen for 21.6 minutes clicking a button)
yeah I'm sorry but I went to a class about what ADHD is and how it is treated and nobody has said anything about it being a "severe form of depression." people often GET forms of depression and anxiety when they have it, but it's not one in the same.
Research has shown recently that it is an evolutionary trait left over in the population from hunter-gatherer days that remains in some people.
Outlaw- it is no longer banned in Canada- get your facts straight if you're going to be so adamant about them.
All I know is that I wish I had the adderall now. I was stupid not to take it last time I went to the doctor. I am suffering at work and about to have a break down because I can't function.
Any meds when taken incorrectly or abused, can mess you up. Any meds not taken that should be can also fuck you up. My husband had high blood pressure since he was a teenager; he knew because he had to get his pilot license renewed and the exam always said he had high blood pressure. Because he was young, no one gave him high blood pressure meds nor did they look at the fact that he was a full blown alcoholic by the time he was 12 (rehab taught me this fact) to see the two did not do anything but make it worse. It ended up he had a spinal stroke, paralyzed him about 70% and it is because of the meds he wasn't given, as well as the life style he was not encouraged to change.
The bottom line is this; you can take this adderral and maybe it will be the lifesaver it was for me. Or maybe you will need to look around with the doc for other meds that may work better for you. There are plenty of people who do not take meds and they should. They brag that they are drug free but they are pretty fucked up nonetheless. Not everyone needs them, but those that do should be given respect to attempt to treat their illnesses.
I surely with you luck. I am on your side.
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I don't know if it's a matter of "really" having ADHD. i think it is more an issue of drugs having certain side effects on some people and not on others. quote]
I agree. My son has severe ADHD, and he cannot use stimulant meds; the side effects are worse than the ADHD. We used Strattera for a few years, but it got to the point where those side effects were as bad as the ADHD, too.
All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.
I have ADD or ADHD, which ever you wanna call it.
I was diagnosed with this when I was in 2nd or 3rd grade.
I had to take Riddlin for years.
I am now 36 yrs old and back in school.
Holy-shit batman is school ever tough, yes it is.
Paying attention to certain things is a daily struggle,
or rather, every moment to moment is a struggle.
I loose/misplace everything just about.
I think i'd loose my head if it wasn't attached to my shoulders.
I am the poster child of carefree unorganization.
I recently just the other day went and seen my physician.
She gave me a script i'll be picking up my meds soon.
And I understand the fears of taking meds for this stuff.
Who wants to change the way their mind works? not me
Except i'll (i am) suffer academiclly if i don't.
The deal is getting focused and staying focused.
Hard to focus on the task at hand when one's mind is doing
14 other things all @ once off in the clouds someplace.
Good luck to you all that have this condition.
We are not stupid people, far from it. (brilliant or genius even)
And don't be scared.
Hey Chaddy, my friend, good to hear from you (so to speak). Yeah I agree with you on the intelligence factor. Has nothing to do with it other than it can't allow you to focus to show your intellect. If you look into history, there are a lot of famous great men who had this disorder and were banished in school as "dumbies" (for lack of a better word). Many of these same men invented and/or discovered great things.
Once you accept you have it, if you do, then you are on a better road.
I want to make a bumper sticker that reads;
"MOMS WITH ADHD ARE SPONTANEOUS!"
cute???
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
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curmudgeoness
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yeah I'm sorry but I went to a class about what ADHD is and how it is treated and nobody has said anything about it being a "severe form of depression." people often GET forms of depression and anxiety when they have it, but it's not one in the same.
ADHD is treated using stimulants or Strattera, which is a norepinephrine (noradrenaline) reuptake inhibitor. ADHD does indeed involve dopamine pathways. And you are correct, it is not a form of depression. I personally tend to agree with the thought that it is a developmental delay, due in no small part to my hope that my son will outgrow it, eventually.
The wikipedia page on ADHD is interesting, worth a look.
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curmudgeoness
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Hey Chaddy, my friend, good to hear from you (so to speak). Yeah I agree with you on the intelligence factor. Has nothing to do with it other than it can't allow you to focus to show your intellect. If you look into history, there are a lot of famous great men who had this disorder and were banished in school as "dumbies" (for lack of a better word). Many of these same men invented and/or discovered great things.
Once you accept you have it, if you do, then you are on a better road.
I want to make a bumper sticker that reads;
"MOMS WITH ADHD ARE SPONTANEOUS!"
cute???
cute bumper sticker
as you're saying about the famous great men and or inventors that have
this issue, i will add to your comment.
i believe alot of or most of the artists in the world have this condition.
it's the creativity that flows in such a mind..
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I'm not going to the dr. again until sometime mid-august, but after my research on Adderall, I actually can't wait!
I'm hoping it will make do better at work and also maybe allow me to do things I've never been able to do but always wanted to.
I wish someone had told me I had ADHD a long time ago...maybe I wouldn't have failed at so many things!
I have pondered that thought so many times myself since finding out, but have come to the conclusion that Douglas Adams had it right when he said:
"I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be."
(on a side note: I have had a small victory this week...i went to two movies and didn't drive the person sitting next to me absolutely batty with my constant shifting and restlessness!)
I know a lot of people who would be stoked if this happened to me...
But, according to him, he could not actually feel the Ritalin. All he knew was that he was able to concentrate more.
On the other hand, when I took his Ritalin for fun, it made me really super high -almost like I was on amphetamines.
So, if you really have ADHD, then you probably won't notice the meds that much.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
I don't know if it's a matter of "really" having ADHD. i think it is more an issue of drugs having certain side effects on some people and not on others. the doctor assured me I'd probably feel like this when I started taking, and he's assuming I "really" have ADHD. Plus, I think I mentioned it earlier, but the studies of ADHD are now starting to lean toward it not really being a disease or a "disorder" but rather just some genetic programming that was useful to humans thousands of years ago and is now counterproductive.
That is exactly the whole point. I thought I was a loser, a quitter, a druggee until I was diagnosed and then learned why I had felt so out of the norm. I was self medicating but it didn't help me because I was not addressing the ADHD thing. The depression, the moods, the intensity is there but in my control and toward what is truly worthy of intense feelings, not just MY mood, you know? So many people have not known they have this. some people say that it is overdiagnosed. If that is true, then it is because we are too bust nowadays and until we slow down, we will still be full of this condition.
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
it is basically amphetamine. i wouldn't recommend anyone take it, ADD or not.
drugs are bad kids.
do NOT take Adderall!!
It's a HIGHLY addictive drug, and is VERY dangerous!! I did an entire research project on Adderall, Ritalin, and all drugs like it. One of my closest friends was prescribed Adderall for ADHD and other conditions he had, and after a while, he forced himself to stop taking it...
Adderall works!! It's great.... but it's a little TOO great. That's the problem. The feeling it gives you is that you can do anythign when you're on it. When you're not on Adderall, you feel like you can't accomplish anything. It's so easy to abuse this drug... It's BANNED in Canada for a reason! There have been ATLEAST 12 sudden deaths linked to drug abuse with Adderall. It's becoming more prevalent in the streets.
I HIGHLY suggest you do NOT take this drug. It's extremely dangerous. ADHD, while serious, can be controlled if you take the initiative. Some caffeine doesn't hurt either.
I am curious. Do you have this condition as well? Or are you a dr?
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
Does it matter?
Unless the definition of ADHD has changed in the last few years, then yes it is a matter of "really" having ADHD.
ADHD is caused by a form of severe depression, which the body tries to counteract with its own "anti-depressant." The body then allows too much of it into the system, and that's where the hyperactivity comes from.
Adderal and Ritalin are the uppers needed to fight the severe depression, so that the body does not try to regulate it on its own.
That's why people who do not have that condition will get high from it.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
Adderall and Ritalin are not needed to fight severe depression. In fact, Adderall is not usually prescribed to depressed people, but moreso to narcoleptic people and people diagnosed with ADHD.
Adderall has amphetamine salts in it. It's an addictive drug and can get anyone high/addicted.
yeah I'm sorry but I went to a class about what ADHD is and how it is treated and nobody has said anything about it being a "severe form of depression." people often GET forms of depression and anxiety when they have it, but it's not one in the same.
Research has shown recently that it is an evolutionary trait left over in the population from hunter-gatherer days that remains in some people.
Outlaw- it is no longer banned in Canada- get your facts straight if you're going to be so adamant about them.
All I know is that I wish I had the adderall now. I was stupid not to take it last time I went to the doctor. I am suffering at work and about to have a break down because I can't function.
i could have written that.
i read something in the newspaper about 10 years ago and realized
that i had ADD. I was about 32 and it was an amzing revelation.
i had no idea why but i had lived up til then pretty much failing or giving up everything i attempted.
if i had only had the help in high school and college... who know what i could have accomplished.
i lived in a blizzard - always overwhelmed with everything.
anyway, my point is...
meds can really help... give it a try and good luck
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I managed to get by in high school (even though it was a struggle most of the time), and thrived in college and grad school. that's why no one ever thought I had it. working in an office, however, is torture for me. it is too disorganized and I can't function if other people are expecting something from me. I can't do things unless I get some kind of inspiration. it's also just too boring, and then having to sit still on top of it is almost too much to ask of me. I've also never been able to do things I wanted to like play guitar- I pace around looking at the thing but could never get myself to sit down and practice, and when I did, I would just give up immediately. I also have a hard time doing things like cleaning, because I know I can't get everything perfect, so I just think about it instead of doing it, or I'll start it and then give up.
oh man... the cleaning thing.
starting and giving up...
sheesh.
it;s funny because i am a merchandiser for a toy company, i have to arrange things and organize them in stores. but the work varies and i'm not really in the same place or doing the same thing for too long.
when i have to sit in meetings, i have to have pen and paper to doodle, write, etc.
i worked in an office years ago.. don;t want to ever do that again.
i would walk around, up and down the stairway... spin in the chair.
i was in my twenties but acted like i was 10.
couldn;t stay on the same task for too long.
if you ever want to chat about this, pm me
there's some good reading material out there.
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thanks serena, this is so much like me! I was in a meeting once and I covered a whole notepad with doodles and I knew my bosses thought I wasn't listening. I was listening, but I can't listen without doodling. I also like to switch tasks all the time. I think these are some of the reasons I also did well in college and grad school- first of all you're expected to take vigorous notes as you listen, you get to switch tasks and you get to move around whenever you want and you can take as long as you want to do things. I like to organize things actually. my therapist said it is common with ADHD- you can't create internal order without external order first. this is actually pretty big for me.
actually about giving up- my first job out of college all of my performance reviews said "gives up too easily." I thought it was total bullshit at the time, I didn't FEEL like I was giving up too easily. but looking back on it, maybe it was a symptom.
I was diagnosed with this when I was in 2nd or 3rd grade.
I had to take Riddlin for years.
I am now 36 yrs old and back in school.
Holy-shit batman is school ever tough, yes it is.
Paying attention to certain things is a daily struggle,
or rather, every moment to moment is a struggle.
I loose/misplace everything just about.
I think i'd loose my head if it wasn't attached to my shoulders.
I am the poster child of carefree unorganization.
I recently just the other day went and seen my physician.
She gave me a script i'll be picking up my meds soon.
And I understand the fears of taking meds for this stuff.
Who wants to change the way their mind works? not me
Except i'll (i am) suffer academiclly if i don't.
The deal is getting focused and staying focused.
Hard to focus on the task at hand when one's mind is doing
14 other things all @ once off in the clouds someplace.
Good luck to you all that have this condition.
We are not stupid people, far from it. (brilliant or genius even)
And don't be scared.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
I came across an article that explains a lot of what I feel and passed it along to some of the managers at my office so they might gain a little insight.
Here's the link:
http://www.faslink.org/ADHDLIKE.HTM
(it's a little strange since i found it on a Fetal Alcohol Syndrome page, but oh well)
panthergirl, I would be interested in some of the information you have.
Having ADD has allowed me to develop my personality as a wiseguy since I sometime lack mental filters, and say stuff that would be best left unsaid at times.
I made the choice to become a CPA, which is not a great choice for those with ADD. Without Ritalin, I would have had trouble focusing on the CPA exam, and tax season would be worse then usual.
try reading a book when it's the size of a wall, can't focus.
open your arms as wide as they can be when in fact they only need be open a few tiny inches (centimeters) or something like that.
that and being hyper active and not being able to sit still for very long.
im all over the place = shotgun thinking patterns and actions.
to many thoughts/ideas happening/firing in my brain all @ the same time.
my grades in school always were shit.
i was in the learning disability classes.
that made me very shy and kinda hidden from the norm.
i never got a decent grade in any class except gym class.`
im not as hyper as i was when i was a kid.
as a kid i couldn't be stopped.
i played several sports at the same time daily.
football, baseball, boxing, kick boxing, swimming, weight lifting, and riding bikes.
boxing alone tires out most ppl as it is very much a physically demanding activiting.
hell no, not me.
after school i went to the boxing club and trained all afternoon, went home and did whatever sport or went swimming.
having ADD/ADHD was good for my physical body as i was built like a grown man when i was still a young kid.
weird shit i suppose but that's how i was.
i wish i had that full energy back.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
i was shocked when the diagnosis of ADHD was given. my therapist told me that while i might not appear to be outwardly hyperactive, my brain is firing off like an uzi.
my problem is in the temporal lobe. my frontal lobe hums along pretty well but my temporal has a mind of it's own and misfires rapidly, especially when something unexpected comes at me, not to mention the thoughts that are constantly flying around in my head.
i think that was one of the first thing i noticed once i started taking the medication...when i went to bed at night my mind wasn't racing. it was actually quiet up there.
a question for everyone who's been dxed with ADD or ADHD, has anyone taken the TOVA test? (the one where you sit in front of a computer screen for 21.6 minutes clicking a button)
Any meds when taken incorrectly or abused, can mess you up. Any meds not taken that should be can also fuck you up. My husband had high blood pressure since he was a teenager; he knew because he had to get his pilot license renewed and the exam always said he had high blood pressure. Because he was young, no one gave him high blood pressure meds nor did they look at the fact that he was a full blown alcoholic by the time he was 12 (rehab taught me this fact) to see the two did not do anything but make it worse. It ended up he had a spinal stroke, paralyzed him about 70% and it is because of the meds he wasn't given, as well as the life style he was not encouraged to change.
The bottom line is this; you can take this adderral and maybe it will be the lifesaver it was for me. Or maybe you will need to look around with the doc for other meds that may work better for you. There are plenty of people who do not take meds and they should. They brag that they are drug free but they are pretty fucked up nonetheless. Not everyone needs them, but those that do should be given respect to attempt to treat their illnesses.
I surely with you luck. I am on your side.
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
Hey Chaddy, my friend, good to hear from you (so to speak). Yeah I agree with you on the intelligence factor. Has nothing to do with it other than it can't allow you to focus to show your intellect. If you look into history, there are a lot of famous great men who had this disorder and were banished in school as "dumbies" (for lack of a better word). Many of these same men invented and/or discovered great things.
Once you accept you have it, if you do, then you are on a better road.
I want to make a bumper sticker that reads;
"MOMS WITH ADHD ARE SPONTANEOUS!"
cute???
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
ADHD is treated using stimulants or Strattera, which is a norepinephrine (noradrenaline) reuptake inhibitor. ADHD does indeed involve dopamine pathways. And you are correct, it is not a form of depression. I personally tend to agree with the thought that it is a developmental delay, due in no small part to my hope that my son will outgrow it, eventually.
The wikipedia page on ADHD is interesting, worth a look.
...except odds are, we would misplace it before we got around to slapping it on the back of the car.
cute bumper sticker
as you're saying about the famous great men and or inventors that have
this issue, i will add to your comment.
i believe alot of or most of the artists in the world have this condition.
it's the creativity that flows in such a mind..
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce