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I respect the band a million times more

PearlJamFanaticPearlJamFanatic Posts: 15
edited December 2007 in The Porch
I respect the band a million times more after finding out Eddie being a vegetarian and his support for PETA. It is good to know that people can stand up for good causes even when they are eddie vedder. It's just so easy to forget the plight of animals when you are a millionaire and everything going for you. It's easy to forget their suffering when there are so many other cool themes like world hunger, war etc to stick up for.
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  • Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,369
    I know Eddie stands for a hell of a lot more than animals, check it out!

    not sure if you know but a few dollars from each tickets from each show goes towards the local community.They do many many benefits, benaorya hall - youth care are some of the greatest performances ever.I also know Eddie does a lot for surfing location, raising money to help conserve them.I think he does loads of climate change etc

    oh and Stone saves trees



    people will probably be a lot more accurate than me!
  • rival.rival. ChicagoPosts: 7,776
    that's great and all... but come on, you know how good a juicy burger and juicy steak tastes????
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,211
    I respect the band a million times more after finding out Eddie being a vegetarian and his support for PETA. It is good to know that people can stand up for good causes even when they are eddie vedder. It's just so easy to forget the plight of animals when you are a millionaire and everything going for you. It's easy to forget their suffering when there are so many other cool themes like world hunger, war etc to stick up for.

    ed's stance on vegetarianism hasn't changed my level of respect for them one way or the other. i respect their willingness to speak out more than any particular issue. though i do think it's lame that ed is anti-porn. i mean, cmon...
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,505
    ed's stance on vegetarianism hasn't changed my level of respect for them one way or the other. i respect their willingness to speak out more than any particular issue. though i do think it's lame that ed is anti-porn. i mean, cmon...

    you miss heard that...hes anti-perm
  • PureandEasyPureandEasy Posts: 5,582
    ed's stance on vegetarianism hasn't changed my level of respect for them one way or the other. i respect their willingness to speak out more than any particular issue. though i do think it's lame that ed is anti-porn. i mean, cmon...

    you're a jack ass :D

    It is nice that they are involved in caring organizations, but it doesn't change my opinion one bit either. You either like their music or you don't.

    I guess it's nice not to have to read stories about Ed or any of the members making asses of themselves in bars or on the road way like you see so many other so called celebrities doing.

    But really, it's all about the music
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  • dannydanny Posts: 2,163
    I respect the band a million times more after finding out Eddie being a vegetarian and his support for PETA. It is good to know that people can stand up for good causes even when they are eddie vedder. It's just so easy to forget the plight of animals when you are a millionaire and everything going for you. It's easy to forget their suffering when there are so many other cool themes like world hunger, war etc to stick up for.


    most of all respect for the music!
    danny d
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,211
    you're a jack ass :D

    It is nice that they are involved in caring organizations, but it doesn't change my opinion one bit either. You either like their music or you don't.

    I guess it's nice not to have to read stories about Ed or any of the members making asses of themselves in bars or on the road way like you see so many other so called celebrities doing.

    But really, it's all about the music

    hey, nothing wrong with a little visual aid to my self pollution!

    but yeah, you about summed up the rest. i dont respect them more when i hear they have the same belief i do about issue x or y. i couldn't care less. what i do respect is the dignity with which they handle themselves and them putting their money where their mouths are to back their beliefs.
  • 12345AGNST112345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    he's a vegetarian? what a pussy. animals are on this planet for humans to eat.


    i have a freind whos a vegetarian so i wasn't completely serious about that
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,118
    how can anyone be anti-porn? :p
  • halvhalv Posts: 599
    that's great and all... but come on, you know how good a juicy burger and juicy steak tastes????

    I just never understand why people have to write stuff like this^ when people talk about animal rights or vegetarianism.
  • SBC03SBC03 Posts: 502
    nice, while he pollutes his lungs (and his voice) and the air we breath!!!!
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  • PETA's Dirty Secret
    7 Things You Didn't Know About PETA
    By ConsumerFreedom.com

    Sunday, January 28, 2007

    1) PETA president and co-founder Ingrid Newkirk has described her group's overall goal as "total animal liberation." This means no meat, no milk, no zoos, no circuses, no wool, no leather, no hunting, no fishing, and no pets (not even seeing-eye dogs). PETA is also against all medical research that requires the use of animals.

    2) Despite its constant moralizing about the "unethical" treatment of animals by restaurant owners, grocers, farmers, scientists, anglers, and countless other Americans, PETA has killed over 14,400 dogs and cats at its Norfolk, Virginia headquarters. During 2005, PETA put to death over 90 percent of the animals it collected from members of the public.

    3) PETA has given tens of thousands of dollars to convicted arsonists and other violent criminals. This includes a 2001 donation of $1,500 to the North American Earth Liberation Front (ELF), an FBI-certified "domestic terrorist" group responsible for dozens of firebombs and death threats. During the 1990s, PETA paid $70,200 to an Animal Liberation Front (ALF) activist convicted of burning down a Michigan State University research laboratory. In his sentencing recommendation, a federal prosecutor implicated PETA president Ingrid Newkirk in that crime. And PETA vegetarian campaign coordinator Bruce Friedrich told an animal rights convention in 2001 that "blowing stuff up and smashing windows" is "a great way to bring about animal liberation."

    4) PETA activists regularly target children as young as six years old with anti-meat and anti-milk propaganda, often waiting outside their schools to intercept them as they walk to and from class-without notifying parents. One piece of kid-targeted PETA literature tells small children: "Your Mommy Kills Animals!" PETA brags that its messages reach over 2 million children every year, including thousands reached by e-mail without the permission of their parents. One PETA vice president told the Fox News Channel's audience: "Our campaigns are always geared towards children, and they always will be."

    5) PETA has used a related organization, the PETA Foundation, to fund the misnamed Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM), a deceptive animal rights group that promotes itself as an unbiased source of medical and nutritional information. PCRM's president also serves as president of the PETA Foundation.

    6) PETA runs campaigns seemingly calculated to offend religious believers. One entire PETA website is devoted to the claim-despite ample evidence to the contrary-that Jesus Christ was a vegetarian. PETA holds protests at houses of worship, even suing one church that tried to protect its members from Sunday-morning harassment. Its billboards taunt Christians with the message that hogs "died for their sins." PETA insists, contrary to centuries of rabbinical teaching, that the Jewish ritual of kosher slaughter shouldn't be allowed. And its infamous "Holocaust on Your Plate" campaign crassly compares the Jewish victims of Nazi genocide with farm animals.

    7) PETA has repeatedly attacked research foundations like the March of Dimes, the Pediatric AIDS Foundation, and the American Cancer Society, because they support animal-based research that might uncover cures for birth defects and life-threatening diseases. PETA president Ingrid Newkirk has said that "even if animal research resulted in a cure for AIDS, we would be against it."
  • Hitch-HikerHitch-Hiker Posts: 2,873
    halv wrote:
    I just never understand why people have to write stuff like this^ when people talk about animal rights or vegetarianism.
    It's called having a sense of humour.
    I'll Ride The Wave Where It Takes Me
  • halvhalv Posts: 599
    PETA's Dirty Secret
    7 Things You Didn't Know About PETA
    By ConsumerFreedom.com

    Sunday, January 28, 2007

    1) PETA president and co-founder Ingrid Newkirk has described her group's overall goal as "total animal liberation." This means no meat, no milk, no zoos, no circuses, no wool, no leather, no hunting, no fishing, and no pets (not even seeing-eye dogs). PETA is also against all medical research that requires the use of animals.

    ...soooooooooooooooo??????

    2) Despite its constant moralizing about the "unethical" treatment of animals by restaurant owners, grocers, farmers, scientists, anglers, and countless other Americans, PETA has killed over 14,400 dogs and cats at its Norfolk, Virginia headquarters. During 2005, PETA put to death over 90 percent of the animals it collected from members of the public.

    Millions of pets live in terrible conditons in the US due to overbreeding and irresponsible pet owners. Many no kill shelters are underfunded and understaffed and these dogs and cats end up living their lives in barren cages and don't get proper vet care. PeTA makes the hard choice....to put to sleep these animals that are suffering and have no chance at a proper home. Until people stop buying pets from pet stores and breeders this will have to continue as there are just not enough homes.

    3) PETA has given tens of thousands of dollars to convicted arsonists and other violent criminals. This includes a 2001 donation of $1,500 to the North American Earth Liberation Front (ELF), an FBI-certified "domestic terrorist" group responsible for dozens of firebombs and death threats. During the 1990s, PETA paid $70,200 to an Animal Liberation Front (ALF) activist convicted of burning down a Michigan State University research laboratory. In his sentencing recommendation, a federal prosecutor implicated PETA president Ingrid Newkirk in that crime. And PETA vegetarian campaign coordinator Bruce Friedrich told an animal rights convention in 2001 that "blowing stuff up and smashing windows" is "a great way to bring about animal liberation."

    It's a sad day when groups that attempt to save lives are considered terrorists. There is no evidence of PeTA supporting any acts of violence to humans or animals.

    4) PETA activists regularly target children as young as six years old with anti-meat and anti-milk propaganda, often waiting outside their schools to intercept them as they walk to and from class-without notifying parents. One piece of kid-targeted PETA literature tells small children: "Your Mommy Kills Animals!" PETA brags that its messages reach over 2 million children every year, including thousands reached by e-mail without the permission of their parents. One PETA vice president told the Fox News Channel's audience: "Our campaigns are always geared towards children, and they always will be."

    Meat companies, soft drink manufacturers, toy companies, etc etc...they all target children. PeTA targets children with a message of compassion and non-violence. What's worse? And, according to the most intensive nutritional study ever conducted milk is very unhealthy. The China Study.

    5) PETA has used a related organization, the PETA Foundation, to fund the misnamed Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM), a deceptive animal rights group that promotes itself as an unbiased source of medical and nutritional information. PCRM's president also serves as president of the PETA Foundation.

    PCRM is a group of researchers and scientists who acknowledge that scientific testing on animals is not only immoral, but counter productive. Look them up, check their credentials.

    6) PETA runs campaigns seemingly calculated to offend religious believers. One entire PETA website is devoted to the claim-despite ample evidence to the contrary-that Jesus Christ was a vegetarian. PETA holds protests at houses of worship, even suing one church that tried to protect its members from Sunday-morning harassment. Its billboards taunt Christians with the message that hogs "died for their sins." PETA insists, contrary to centuries of rabbinical teaching, that the Jewish ritual of kosher slaughter shouldn't be allowed. And its infamous "Holocaust on Your Plate" campaign crassly compares the Jewish victims of Nazi genocide with farm animals.

    Take a look at a video inside a kosher slaughterhouse and then tell me the animal doesn't suffer. Read Genesis a few times....no where does it say animals were put on earth for us to eat.

    7) PETA has repeatedly attacked research foundations like the March of Dimes, the Pediatric AIDS Foundation, and the American Cancer Society, because they support animal-based research that might uncover cures for birth defects and life-threatening diseases. PETA president Ingrid Newkirk has said that "even if animal research resulted in a cure for AIDS, we would be against it."

    See above......
  • halvhalv Posts: 599
    It's called having a sense of humour.

    You need to work on that a bit harder then.
  • i can go for a burger right about now
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  • Hitch-HikerHitch-Hiker Posts: 2,873
    halv wrote:
    You need to work on that a bit harder then.
    Most vegetarians I've met are completely humourless about it and try to shove their views down my throat. I know not all veggies are like that, but I know I'm not the only one who has experienced these types too. I'd usually just joke about it. It annoys them, but they annoy me too.
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  • faithful2youfaithful2you Madison, WIPosts: 775
    It's called having a sense of humour.
    Not trying to be funny.....I love meat. To each their own....but I'm a meat eater and always will be.

    And to comment on the person that said most veggies are annoying...I agree...not all but a lot like to try pushing thier views on everyone else. Why can't you have your beliefs and not try pushing them off on everyone else?
    Like a word misplaced...nothing said...what a waste
  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    Not trying to be funny.....I love meat. To each their own....but I'm a meat eater and always will be.

    And to comment on the person that said most veggies are annoying...I agree...not all but a lot like to try pushing thier views on everyone else. Why can't you have your beliefs and not try pushing them off on everyone else?


    Because it doesn't support their agenda.

    Which is why PETA would get a whole lot more support from me if they didn't have one. Well certainly one that wasn't as militant and harmful.
    NOPE!!!

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  • I'm a vegan, but I don't expect other people to be. I just wish there was a better way to going about eating meat, such as treating the poor animals better. Boy, I've read some bad stuff about the treatment of animals. It's sickening and just...I can't eat meat now (I used to eat it).
    To the person that said "what are animals for?" (I think that's what he said), I don't know if you have ever seen what meat does inside after it's digested, but people were not meant to eat meat. Pork and beef are very bad for the digestive system. But this doesn't mean I think poorly of meat-eaters, to each his own I say. Just like I said before, I wish animals were treated better. As far as putting animals to sleep goes, at least they aren't suffering anymore.
    I live in an area where animals are severely mistreated and it makes me sick.

    As far as respect for the band goes...it isn't JUST about music for me, I have to like the people, and I really like the members of Pearl Jam. They're outspoken, stand up for what they believe in, and don't give a crap if it's going to make a few people mad at them. I love that.
    When life gives you lemons, throw them at somebody.
  • that's great and all... but come on, you know how good a juicy burger and juicy steak tastes????
    im with you
    If you hate something dont you do it too
    world fucking champs!!!
  • 1. Several things. I'm skeptical about Eds commitment to vegetarianism and PETA. I have never heard him plug animal rights or PETA and I would not be shocked if he eats meat. One of these most recent interviews describes him as wearing a yellow leather jacket...Ed is no Morrissey in his commitment

    2. I don't really understand vegetarians who think its ok for others to eat meat. Its either acceptable or its not. I think it isn't. I think one of the most disturbing aspects of our modern society is the way we treat animals. The current demands of our over-populated species requires total exploitation of animals. If you eat meat I would at least hope its from organic/free range origin. At least under those conditions the animals are not chemically altered and live natural and modestly enjoyable lives until their slaughter. Slaughterhouse meat... Well we hope that you choke...
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,722
    I thought I read once his favorite pizza is pepperoni, no?
  • zenithzenith Posts: 3,191
    look, i eat farm eggs, i support wwf monthly, i dont wear animal products, i look for natural healthcare products, i have animals and treat them like children, and i think people who neglect or are cruel to them are horrible -

    but i like meat. I grew up on a sheep farm and we had our lamb chops every night. Often from the lamb who'd spent the last few months mowing our backyard.
    I just find it anyone who doesnt eat meat, or who carries on a bit over farm practices etc, need to take a look from the other side. people have been living off animal produce since time began.
    The only thing I would stand up for is moderation, and against oversupply. Centries ago we took what we needed, no more, and nature replenished it. Now we abuse that right.
    impatience is a gift ........
  • zenith wrote:
    look, i eat farm eggs, i support wwf monthly, i dont wear animal products, i look for natural healthcare products, i have animals and treat them like children, and i think people who neglect or are cruel to them are horrible -

    but i like meat. I grew up on a sheep farm and we had our lamb chops every night. Often from the lamb who'd spent the last few months mowing our backyard.
    I just find it anyone who doesnt eat meat, or who carries on a bit over farm practices etc, need to take a look from the other side. people have been living off animal produce since time began.
    The only thing I would stand up for is moderation, and against oversupply. Centries ago we took what we needed, no more, and nature replenished it. Now we abuse that right.

    See I can respect that. If you have a farm and you treat your animals well and when it is time you are willing to kill them yourself (I never could) then go right ahead. I am most concerned with the McMurder types who eat meat three meals a day and it doesn't even cross their mind that what they are eating was once alive and most likely mistreated.
  • for every burger you don't eat, i eat 2
    Get over here!
  • webberf1webberf1 Posts: 160
    I tend to respect people LESS after those things. Especially being a PETA supporter. Like wtf? PETA sucks.
  • I had a sirloin steak for dinner (Medium Rare).....and I don't own a pet......so do you have no respect for me?
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  • for every burger you don't eat, i eat 2

    Now dat's funny!
    "It's all happening"
  • for every burger you don't eat, i eat 2

    Ok Robert Smith
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