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  • up my ass Posts: 21,157
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    I'm having one of those days today... my mind won't stop racing about a million things and I'd love to create something to 'exorcise the demons' but that would just give me even more to think about and make the restlessness even worse.

    I need a harmless little mind-altering drug I think. :o


    i sware to god
    smoke a joint
    off to the races
    you will go
    with writing pen in hand

    promise...
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Posts: 3,007
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    I'm having one of those days today... my mind won't stop racing about a million things and I'd love to create something to 'exorcise the demons' but that would just give me even more to think about and make the restlessness even worse.

    I need a harmless little mind-altering drug I think. :o
    Or just cider? ;)
    A human being that was given to fly.

    Wembley 18/06/07

    If there was a reason, it was you.

    O2 Arena 18/09/09
  • Posts: 4,931
    urbanhippie wrote:
    One thing that I do wonder about is why a lot of artistic people have mental health issues?
    Is the artistic temperament the cause or the symptom?

    (Not picking on you Chad, honestly :) This is a question for everyone)

    Probably both.

    I think if you have a mental illness your world view will be different and a way to show that to others is by actually showing it, visually, for example. It might be a way to escape their troubled minds, too. It might be to create some order from that chaos that lives in their heads.

    I don't know, I'm just as clueless as you.
    THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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  • Posts: 4,423
    urbanhippie wrote:
    Nor me :)
    I guess I am just asking unanswerable questions... I just find the whole thing so mysterious and completely compelling...

    It's like a whole world I can't get to y'know? :o

    It's fascinating for me to see other people talk about stuff they HAVE to express in their art. Because for me, it's not that kind of urgent expression - I'll have an idea for something, and it might be inspired by a feeling I have, or it might just be some random idea that I think might be cool or funny. When I said lyrics can be cathartic... I have to channel that. It's not like I wouldn't be able to sleep without getting it out. The closest I come to that is not wanting to forget an idea while I sleep.

    I'm a phoney. :D
    Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
  • Posts: 8,005
    urbanhippie wrote:
    Or just cider? ;)

    Hell yeah that'd be nice. Got any?
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    radiohead33 wrote:

    I have the utmost respect for anyone out there doing stuff like this, making art, not for profit, but for arts sake.

    I haven't. *Dons giant chicken suit and heads to Walmart*
  • Posts: 4,931
    chadwick wrote:
    ask a very successful guitarist in a wonderful
    talented very awesome band why he/she is a raging alcholic or cocaine addict..
    they have attidictive personality disorders.
    they are actually a train wreck inside.
    why on earth was jim morrison a disaster, janis joplin, lane staley, ect ect ect.
    the list is endless..all have mental and substance issues..

    But you could argue they just used a lot because they lived in that culture of drugs. And became addictive. You could argue that they needed those drugs to escape the world the were forced into.
    THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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  • Posts: 3,007
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    It's fascinating for me to see other people talk about stuff they HAVE to express in their art. Because for me, it's not that kind of urgent expression - I'll have an idea for something, and it might be inspired by a feeling I have, or it might just be some random idea that I think might be cool or funny. When I said lyrics can be cathartic... I have to channel that. It's not like I wouldn't be able to sleep without getting it out. The closest I come to that is not wanting to forget an idea while I sleep.

    I'm a phoney. :D
    Well I've taxed my brain enough for one Sunday :p
    I'm off to sleep on it.
    I'll leave all you artistic souls (and phoney's ;)) to sleep... or not sleep, whatever the case may be :)
    A human being that was given to fly.

    Wembley 18/06/07

    If there was a reason, it was you.

    O2 Arena 18/09/09
  • Posts: 4,931
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    I haven't. *Dons giant chicken suit and heads to Walmart*

    To quote ODB:

    "Yo.. all my bitches that make money throw ya motherfuckin' hands in the air, cuz it's all about the money!!"
    THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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  • up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Collin wrote:
    But you could argue they just used a lot because they lived in that culture of drugs. And became addictive. You could argue that they needed those drugs to escape the world the were forced into.

    well yes but no matter the compulsive starvation
    that needs fed, they are real rather they are drugs
    that need fed or the marathon runner who craves
    the wind in his/her hair sending them into a high over excercise.

    artistic energy is an animal
    it lives and breathes
    it is so powerful it can change
    1 single life or it can change entire countries

    mona lisa...example
    probably the most famous painting ever

    to me it is a lovely painting,
    but it doesn't give my heart that earth quake type jolt..
    yet millions sware by it,
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • up my ass Posts: 21,157
    i am off to get my math homework completed before tomorrow.
    but for now,, in closing .. for now :D

    when a person litterally gets high
    off of their artistic expression
    that is sheer-bliss-nirvana, tranquility, and the essence of sanctuary..
    i love every god dam momment of it..
    when i write something pretty decent,,,i am high as a kite,,,
    litterally a buzz unlike any other
    that my friends is one huge reason artists do what they do
    you cannot stop their hearts...
    their hearts are high as kites...
    truest fact...guaranteed
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Posts: 29,003
    chadwick wrote:
    oh for sure i understand why what's his nuts cut off his artistic ear for some chic..not that it is the best way, the right way, or whatever way it is..
    i can feel his overflowing passion..
    art hurts like a bitch..
    art truly causes pain, even pain can be beautiful..
    the painter of a meadow filled with wild flowers,,,crys at his/her creation..
    they just poured their heart out onto a canvas..
    emotions are filled with every paint-brush stroke..
    same as any art, sewing a quilt...composing music..
    they all have intent to be delivered to whomever..
    everyone has the chance to see/feel art as how they choose to see/feel it.
    art is alive..

    it wasnt his whole ear... just the lobe. :)

    the van gogh family have a rich history of mental illness.

    vincents brother theo was manic depressive
    his other brother cornelius committed suicide
    his sister wilhelmina was committed to an insane asylum
    2 of his paternal uncles were afflicted with mental illness
    a maternal aunt was very likely manic depressive.

    im cyclomthymic and i know if i didnt/couldnt write(amongst other things that give me an outlet) i would be dead. im absolutely certain of it.
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • Posts: 3,007
    catefrances wrote:

    im cyclomthymic and i know if i didnt/couldnt write(amongst other things that give me an outlet) i would be dead. im absolutely certain of it.
    So for you it's a cathartic thing? Like a self-administered therapy?


    Am I completely off track here?
    A human being that was given to fly.

    Wembley 18/06/07

    If there was a reason, it was you.

    O2 Arena 18/09/09
  • Posts: 29,003
    urbanhippie wrote:
    So for you it's a cathartic thing? Like a self-administered therapy?


    Am I completely off track here?

    writing is my therapy.

    there are other things i do, but they are destructive. writing is the only coping mechanism i have that is constructive.
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • Posts: 7,170
    catefrances wrote:
    writing is my therapy.

    there are other things i do, but they are destructive. writing is the only coping mechanism i have that is constructive.
    Same. If I don't write or record music then I just mope about or drink and neither help me in any way. Being creative is the only thing that works when I need some sort of therapy.

    It's all catharsis.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • up my ass Posts: 21,157
    catefrances wrote:
    it wasnt his whole ear... just the lobe. :)

    the van gogh family have a rich history of mental illness.

    vincents brother theo was manic depressive
    his other brother cornelius committed suicide
    his sister wilhelmina was committed to an insane asylum
    2 of his paternal uncles were afflicted with mental illness
    a maternal aunt was very likely manic depressive.

    im cyclomthymic and i know if i didnt/couldnt write(amongst other things that give me an outlet) i would be dead. im absolutely certain of it.


    i agree..
    have to write, no ifs ands or buts about it..
    it breathes to be written..
    my nowhere would become everywhere i am without it..
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Same. If I don't write or record music then I just mope about or drink and neither help me in any way. Being creative is the only thing that works when I need some sort of therapy.

    It's all catharsis.


    you are both fantastic,
    well said,

    my soothing brush painting strokes
    of a 2 day ritual to mega infinity woofers
    and black sabbath "into the void" breathing incense..
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce

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