Art and feelings

musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
edited June 2008 in All Encompassing Trip
For me, I dont waste time anymore with any art, movies, music, books etc... that dont have emotions and feelings running through them. I just dont even bother if they dont have it.

I dont think there is a better feeling than being able to feel that a guitar melody, or a quote in a book or a piece of artwork describes your current feelings.

even more, to be able to convey feelings and emotions in a society that is void of reality is something special. I treasure those moments. Reading a book, listening to a band, watching a movie, and the creator of the art makes me feel something, anything. whether that is feelings of joy, sadness, or anything in between.

I have the utmost respect for anyone out there doing stuff like this, making art, not for profit, but for arts sake. making art because they feel somethign and want to express it.

those are special moments
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  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    The way I see it is that there is no art that doesn't evoke those kind of feelings. That stuff is not art. Music, books, films, visual art that don't affect me emotionally in some way are not really fulfilling the purpose of art.
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  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    How do you know certain works won't have emotions running through them? Isn't that something you only know after you have read, watched or listened?
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  • I know I should be in a thread like this. I'll come back when I have anything to say. I am artfully bored.
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  • I know I should be in a thread like this. I'll come back when I have anything to say. I am artfully bored.

    Can it in some way involve Bob Ross? :p
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  • Can it in some way involve Bob Ross? :p

    The tree needs a happy little friend. :)

    I'm glad there's not a 'one post only' quota on this thread, that one was useless... :p

    Seriously, I want to say something in this thread but maybe I'll wait until somebody says something interesting that I can bounce off of....... or until Bob Ross shows up.
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  • urbanhippieurbanhippie Posts: 3,007
    Anything that makes you feel anything is art.
    My 5 yr olds scribblings may never win the Turner Prize, but it's all art to me :)
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  • Anything that makes you feel anything is art.
    My 5 yr olds scribblings may never win the Turner Prize, but it's all art to me :)

    You should enter the scribblings anyway. I mean, considering what's won the Turner Prize before... :p
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  • urbanhippieurbanhippie Posts: 3,007
    You should enter the scribblings anyway. I mean, considering what's won the Turner Prize before... :p
    I might do ;) He's got kind of a Monet thing going on at the moment. Lots of flowers and things. He's obviously entering his impressionist period :D
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  • I might do ;) He's got kind of a Monet thing going on at the moment. Lots of flowers and things. He's obviously entering his impressionist period :D

    They grow up so fast... *sniffle* :p

    Wait till he hits his Dali-esque surrealist phase. ;)
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  • urbanhippieurbanhippie Posts: 3,007
    They grow up so fast... *sniffle* :p

    Wait till he hits his Dali-esque surrealist phase. ;)
    That may have been last week ;)
    Spiky monsters :D:p
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  • That may have been last week ;)
    Spiky monsters :D:p

    Now I'm picturing a five year old kid with Dali's moustache, and lol'ing out loud. :D
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  • urbanhippieurbanhippie Posts: 3,007
    Now I'm picturing a five year old kid with Dali's moustache, and lol'ing out loud. :D
    Nah....Its more like this.... ;)
    http://i.pbase.com/u40/hinkle/upload/25882579.jkid.in.mustache.jpg
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Artistic ppl are insane for the most part.
    Some are not as deeply obsessed with their craft as others.
    All quality artistic expression bleeds something, somewhere with someone.
    I love the way artsy people think.
    Artsy-craftsy people can move the universe for others, including themselves.
    To dwell in one's craft can only be described heavenly brutal.
    For myself personally, I write and paint.
    Those are the expressive/creative arts I do.
    Although I haven't painted in over a year, I do love it so.
    Painting got me off of a hard-core drug back in the day.
    It is soothing rehabilitation for the mind and soul.
    I do know that alot of people do not understand artistic people.
    My mind searches on its own every moment of everyday for the greatest written piece of poetry none to mankind.
    Why do I do that?
    Because artists are in a never-ending searched feeling for their next masterpiece.
    Experiences are craved like heroin, they crave new ideas, new views, new people and cultures.
    An artist must be a traveler...IMO
    For sure a writer must be a traveler..it is only the way of the mountain which remains tall, still, solid, and silent that can move stars..or is it?
    (i have no idea what that means,,,it just came out)
    :D
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  • urbanhippieurbanhippie Posts: 3,007
    Chad, a question for you...or for anyone that matter....

    Do you think that being an artist/writer gives you more or less of an appreciation of other work? Cos you understand the blood, sweat and tears so to speak, that may have gone into it?....


    I am not very creative really, I wish I was, but I was wondering if it altered the views that you take on other peoples creativity...
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Chad, a question for you...or for anyone that matter....

    Do you think that being an artist/writer gives you more or less of an appreciation of other work? Cos you understand the blood, sweat and tears so to speak, that may have gone into it?....


    I am not very creative really, I wish I was, but I was wondering if it altered the views that you take on other peoples creativity...

    oh for sure i understand why what's his nuts cut off his artistic ear for some chic..not that it is the best way, the right way, or whatever way it is..
    i can feel his overflowing passion..
    art hurts like a bitch..
    art truly causes pain, even pain can be beautiful..
    the painter of a meadow filled with wild flowers,,,crys at his/her creation..
    they just poured their heart out onto a canvas..
    emotions are filled with every paint-brush stroke..
    same as any art, sewing a quilt...composing music..
    they all have intent to be delivered to whomever..
    everyone has the chance to see/feel art as how they choose to see/feel it.
    art is alive..
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

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    I am tired; my heart is
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  • urbanhippieurbanhippie Posts: 3,007
    chadwick wrote:
    oh for sure i understand why what's his nuts cut off his artistic ear for some chic..not that it is the best way, the right way, or whatever way it is..
    i can feel his overflowing passion..
    art hurts like a bitch..
    art truly causes pain, even pain can be beautiful..
    the painter of a meadow filled with wild flowers,,,crys at his/her creation..
    they just poured their heart out onto a canvas..
    emotions are filled with every paint-brush stroke..
    same as any art, sewing a quilt...composing music..
    they all have intent to be delivered to whomever..
    everyone has the chance to see/feel art as how they choose to see/feel it.
    art is alive..
    Why is it, do you think that art causes pain?
    And why are so many artists fucked up in one way or another? (Not all)
    Is it the pain that causes the art? Or the art that causes the pain?


    I'm just trying to grasp what artistic people feel like and what makes them create...
    Is it some kind of fulfilment that they're seeking? Or an irresistable urge they can't fight? Or both?
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Why is it, do you think that art causes pain?
    And why are so many artists fucked up in one way or another? (Not all)
    Is it the pain that causes the art? Or the art that causes the pain?


    I'm just trying to grasp what artistic people feel like and what makes them create...
    Is it some kind of fulfilment that they're seeking? Or an irresistable urge they can't fight? Or both?


    you are hilarious,,
    like i have all the answers..:D
    i do not..

    art is emotional emotions from some kind of
    heart felt stuff..
    pretty easy to comprehend that, right?
    ask Fins the carrot dude what's up with it all
    he can tell you a few things
    ask cate-ster what happenin in her views of art..
    artistic ppl feel good at what they are doing
    it is overwhelming 24x7 for most of them i am sure of that

    an example,..do you think Edward Vedder sleeps alot?
    i am guessing he does not
    i never slept with the fucker
    so i have no clue
    but i would assume he is awake
    working on the musical artistic expressions he is obsessed with
    he can not help himself only the art can help him be..
    this is just my opinion...i could be off track.. :)
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  • urbanhippieurbanhippie Posts: 3,007
    chadwick wrote:
    you are hilarious,,
    like i have all the answers..:D
    i do not..

    art is emotional emotions from some kind of
    heart felt stuff..
    pretty easy to comprehend that, right?
    ask Fins the carrot dude what's up with it all
    he can tell you a few things
    ask cate-ster what happenin in her views of art..
    artistic ppl feel good at what they are doing
    it is overwhelming 24x7 for most of them i am sure of that

    an example,..do you think Edward Vedder sleeps alot?
    i am guessing he does not
    i never slept with the fucker
    so i have no clue
    but i would assume he is awake
    working on the musical artistic expressions he is obsessed with
    he can not help himself only the art can help him be..
    this is just my opinion...i could be off track.. :)
    Sorry Chad, I didn't mean to pick on you :o
    Just trying to get some ideas is all.... I hope others can help me to answer these questions too.

    Of course, I know its just your opinion and others will have theirs. I'm just trying to broaden my horizons :)
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Sorry Chad, I didn't mean to pick on you :o
    Just trying to get some ideas is all.... I hope others can help me to answer these questions too.

    Of course, I know its just your opinion and others will have theirs. I'm just trying to broaden my horizons :)


    oh you weren't picking on me
    i can handle more than what
    you been throwin at me

    you are fine, breathe deep...
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    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
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    no more forever."

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  • urbanhippieurbanhippie Posts: 3,007
    chadwick wrote:
    oh you weren't picking on me
    i can handle more than what
    you been throwin at me

    you are fine, breathe deep...
    Thank you for your thoughts Chad :)
    Does anyone else have any answers they want to share?
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  • Thank you for your thoughts Chad :)
    Does anyone else have any answers they want to share?

    For me, when I'm writing music, I'm writing something I want to hear. There can be emotion in there, definitely, but I'm mostly just looking to make something that sounds cool. Lyrics, on the other hand, can be pure catharsis.

    Similarly, when I'm drawing comics, it's basically just cos I have a joke I want to tell - it's not anything I have to let the world see. But if I'm writing a short story, I generally have to try to capture the lightning in the bottle, so to speak. I've stayed up all night on short stories - never on comics.

    Not sure if that answers your question, really. :o
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  • urbanhippieurbanhippie Posts: 3,007
    For me, when I'm writing music, I'm writing something I want to hear. There can be emotion in there, definitely, but I'm mostly just looking to make something that sounds cool. Lyrics, on the other hand, can be pure catharsis.

    Similarly, when I'm drawing comics, it's basically just cos I have a joke I want to tell - it's not anything I have to let the world see. But if I'm writing a short story, I generally have to try to capture the lightning in the bottle, so to speak. I've stayed up all night on short stories - never on comics.

    Not sure if that answers your question, really. :o
    So what you're saying is it's both an urge AND a desire...sometimes it's just cos you feel like it and sometimes it's because you need to... Have I got that right?

    And do you think your works better if you absolutely HAVE to get it out? Or does it make no difference?

    I'm sorry if I'm asking unanswerable questions :) I'm not creative, and it fascinates me when people are :o
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  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    I think art is a bit overrated. I think people who look at art, judge art often see much more into it than the artist anticipated. Perhaps a little too much at times.

    We had to write a poem in school, and although I like to write poetry, I didn't have any inspiration at the time. I only write when I have inspiration, when a combination of words suddenly opens a door in my brain... you know? Anyway, I had to write a poem and it was a rather important assignment and I wrote about something trivial, something I saw that day namely a book which was left on a bench near the station. It didn't mean anything. Nothing.

    My teacher was really impressed with it and after class wanted to discuss the emotions and feelings I put into this poem. I just nodded a lot (because I knew I'd get a high grade.)

    I knew a few people which could be considered artists, and a lot of them just like to draw or write... they don't put extra meaning behind it. They just write or paint or sing whatever's on their mind and other people interpret it as art, as something meaningful.

    edit: and sometimes, or oftentimes, they do put meaning into it but just because that's how they feel, just like you'd complain about your life to a friend, only they do it in their own language... which can be a painting, a poem anything... People sometimes get that meaning behind it, and sometimes they don't.

    I know someone who is extremely talented. He doesn't give a damn about 'art' or 'feeling' or anything, he's all about technique and skills. Yet almost everyone sees so much into his paintings. 'Oh and this painting portrays the loneliness of the artist in this materialist cold hard world'. Hell no, he just took a bunch of pictures and combined elements of them all, and painted it.
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  • urbanhippieurbanhippie Posts: 3,007
    Collin wrote:
    I knew a few people which could be considered artists, and a lot of them just like to draw or write... they don't put extra meaning behind it. They just write or paint or sing whatever's on their mind and other people interpret it as art, as something meaningful.
    So for them it's just a way to chill out and relax....?

    Not the blood, sweat and tears and desire to create that others talk about?
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  • So what you're saying is it's both an urge AND a desire...sometimes it's just cos you feel like it and sometimes it's because you need to... Have I got that right?

    And do you think your works better if you absolutely HAVE to get it out? Or does it make no difference?

    I'm sorry if I'm asking unanswerable questions :) I'm not creative, and it fascinates me when people are :o

    Yeah, I guess it can be an urge, or a desire, or both. But that said, I agree with Collin - sometimes, you just write cos you're being made to, and something pretty great can come out of it. I wrote a lot of essays back in secondary school that I was really proud of, but they didn't come out of any artistic place, I was just filling up a word count.

    I think one very necessary part of being creative is having an ability to bullshit. :p
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  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    So for them it's just a way to chill out and relax....?

    Not the blood, sweat and tears and desire to create that others talk about?

    I edited my post to include an example of a friend who is extremely talented. He just loves painting and drawing like someone really loves football. It's his hobby and he does it because he loves it. If he could he'd paint and draw 24/7. Not to convey a feeling or an idea.

    He doesn't give a damn what anyone else thinks except for people who can comment on the technical aspects.

    edit: He'll paint things that interest him, however. He doesn't just draw or paint anything. He choses subjects that he cares about, but not to convey a message. The only thing he does is practising his skills. And his work is absolutely beautiful! You could put it in an art show and all the art critics would see meaning and feeling and everything that is not there.

    edit: of course some of his subjects have a message, convey a message but simply because the subject in itself conveys this. He's just interested in skills and technical ability and getting better. He studies artists and painting but doesn't care about symbols or the meaning behind the paintings, only about the technical aspects.
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  • urbanhippieurbanhippie Posts: 3,007
    Yeah, I guess it can be an urge, or a desire, or both. But that said, I agree with Collin - sometimes, you just write cos you're being made to, and something pretty great can come out of it. I wrote a lot of essays back in secondary school that I was really proud of, but they didn't come out of any artistic place, I was just filling up a word count.

    I think one very necessary part of being creative is having an ability to bullshit. :p
    Thank you :)
    I'm no closer to answering any of my questions (;)), but at least I've got plenty of different answers to think about...
    It seems there's no wrong or right answers and it means different things to everyone who creates art and everyone who views art. Sometimes the artists and the viewers feelings can be completely different but about the same thing :confused:
    Hey, I don't understand it, but that makes it all the more fascinating :)
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  • Thank you :)
    I'm no closer to answering any of my questions (;)), but at least I've got plenty of different answers to think about...
    It seems there's no wrong or right answers and it means different things to everyone who creates art and everyone who views art. Sometimes the artists and the viewers feelings can be completely different but about the same thing :confused:
    Hey, I don't understand it, but that makes it all the more fascinating :)

    Hey, if there was a formula to it, it wouldn't be art anymore. ;)
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  • urbanhippieurbanhippie Posts: 3,007
    Hey, if there was a formula to it, it wouldn't be art anymore. ;)
    Tis true :D
    I'm gonna stop analysing and just enjoy :)
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